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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:19 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Evgeni Malkin rumor Evgeni Malkin rumor
Little Katarina
Joined: 06.03.2019

Jun 5 @ 10:31 AM ET
Fist of the first men
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Jun 5 @ 10:32 AM ET
seems like it makes things a whole lot worse for the Pens. Unless Trocheck is included in that deal (then no pick), I don't see why you'd do it. Can't see Florida doing this though.

IF Laine wants out of Winnipeg then I'd try to swing something in that direction.

Or just keep him...not exactly a bad problem to have...
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:34 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Evgeni Malkin rumor
Evgeni Malkin rumor

- Ryan_Wilson


I understand the stance being taken in writing this, but I don't see why Florida would do that deal. Huberdeau and Barkov obviously have chemistry and are a top pairing, Huberdeau is younger (obviously) and under contract on a good AAV.

I'm not debating Malkin's resume nor the "generational talent" comment, but it is fair to debate whether or not that is fading. He's defense has never even been average, and coming of a PIM-riddled year, I don't see his value as this high. I think it'd be different if Florida was truly "one player away" but that's not the case.

We're all guilty of it, but I think the PIT fan base is overvaluing the potential return of a Malkin deal.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 5 @ 10:35 AM ET
This sounds like a great deal... for Florida.

Tippet and another prospect better be coming back if this actually happened
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

Jun 5 @ 10:38 AM ET
This doesn’t seem legitimate. Rutherford is stupid, but he’s not that stupid.
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
This sounds like a great deal... for Florida.

Tippet and another prospect better be coming back if this actually happened

- Rinosaur


You know Huberdeau had 92 points last year, right? And is 6 years younger? And almost 4 mil cheaper? And still has 4 years remaining on his contract?
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 5 @ 10:40 AM ET
This doesn’t seem legitimate. Rutherford is stupid, but he’s not that stupid.
- FinnGod


Seriously
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 5 @ 10:42 AM ET
You know Huberdeau had 92 points last year, right? And is 6 years younger? And almost 4 mil cheaper? And still has 4 years remaining on his contract?
- jersey1414


You know who Malkin is, right?
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 10:47 AM ET
IF.....They made this trade and sent JJ with Malkin..The return is Hubdreau + 1st and they can sign Duchene....Thats a good move for Pens.
Beergu
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 08.15.2008

Jun 5 @ 10:47 AM ET
You know who Malkin is, right?
- Rinosaur


The man?
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:49 AM ET
You know who Malkin is, right?
- Rinosaur


I know who he was, yes.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 01.21.2016

Jun 5 @ 10:50 AM ET
I know who he was, yes.
- jersey1414


Malkin had an off year and put up 72 points. Florida would be getting a generational talent as their center. I don't think you understand the impact that would have vs. Huberdeau.
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:50 AM ET
IF.....They made this trade and sent JJ with Malkin..The return is Hubdreau + 1st and they can sign Duchene....Thats a good move for Pens.
- sammy87


This write up doesn't mention another scenario. One where they do trade Malkin and use a Kessel trade to net a 2C. That frees up money, potentially gets Sid a winger and (somewhat) fills a void if Malkin is dealt.
jersey1414
Joined: 05.10.2013

Jun 5 @ 10:57 AM ET
Malkin had an off year and put up 72 points. Florida would be getting a generational talent as their center. I don't think you understand the impact that would have vs. Huberdeau.
- Rinosaur


He's 33...few players continue to peak in their mid-30s. Projections show a continued decline is expected. He's also played 70 or more games TWICE in the last 10 years.

So why would Florida take on more money, on an older player, who plays a position they are not thin at? Oh, and also include a 1st rounder.
Wanchuk
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.31.2019

Jun 5 @ 11:01 AM ET
Because that may help them land fellow Russians like Panarin and Bobrovsky
nateca44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: butler, PA
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 5 @ 11:03 AM ET
I dont believe it because EK didnt post anything on it and then put an (E5). So...until then...not true.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 5 @ 11:12 AM ET
I understand the stance being taken in writing this, but I don't see why Florida would do that deal. Huberdeau and Barkov obviously have chemistry and are a top pairing, Huberdeau is younger (obviously) and under contract on a good AAV.

I'm not debating Malkin's resume nor the "generational talent" comment, but it is fair to debate whether or not that is fading. He's defense has never even been average, and coming of a PIM-riddled year, I don't see his value as this high. I think it'd be different if Florida was truly "one player away" but that's not the case.

We're all guilty of it, but I think the PIT fan base is overvaluing the potential return of a Malkin deal.

- jersey1414


Nah. Most PIT fans realize that the Pens will not get better by trading Geno. And most realize it’s smarter to keep Geno then expect a return that will improve the team.
sensarmy_11
Location: NS
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 5 @ 11:19 AM ET
Nah. Most PIT fans realize that the Pens will not get better by trading Geno. And most realize it’s smarter to keep Geno then expect a return that will improve the team.
- j.boyd919


this is the smart take I think.

given Geno's age, contract, fact that he is likely on the decline of his career, etc, etc....the pens can't expect to trade him and get a return that helps now.

if they're still in a "win now" phase....then trading him is stupid because nobody will trade top current assets for him.

if they move him, it will be for a deal similar to what Ottawa got for Karlsson.....that being, a couple of "okay" roster players to make the cap work, and a lot of future assets.

if they move Malkin it's because they've decided their window is closed and they're starting a rebuild.....which might not be the worst idea
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 5 @ 11:35 AM ET
this is the smart take I think.

given Geno's age, contract, fact that he is likely on the decline of his career, etc, etc....the pens can't expect to trade him and get a return that helps now.

if they're still in a "win now" phase....then trading him is stupid because nobody will trade top current assets for him.

if they move him, it will be for a deal similar to what Ottawa got for Karlsson.....that being, a couple of "okay" roster players to make the cap work, and a lot of future assets.

if they move Malkin it's because they've decided their window is closed and they're starting a rebuild.....which might not be the worst idea

- sensarmy_11


If their window is closed, then so be it. Unless Geno asks to be traded, he should be retiring a penguin. He’s done just as much for this franchise as Sid. It’d be disrespectful just to trade him to kickstart a rebuild. He helped us win 3 cups. Dude deserves his numbers in the rafters and to be a life time Penguin. (UNLESS he requests it.)
simethos
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.02.2007

Jun 5 @ 11:41 AM ET
Again, it ain't happening. These rumors are ridiculous. Christ, should I start asking my 5 year old for Malkin rumors? I think he'd be better at this than what I'm reading lately.
Dr Blob
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.30.2018

Jun 5 @ 11:44 AM ET
With Kessel most likely leaving does Geno think the window is closed? That might be his take on this and, if so, might encourage him to request a trade. Sure hope he stays. Loved Geno the Machino but worry he doesn’t have much left in the tank.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 11:45 AM ET
If there window is closed, then so be it. Unless Geno asks to be traded, he should be retiring a penguin. He’s done just as much for this franchise as Sid. It’d be disrespectful just to trade him to kickstart a rebuild. He helped us win 3 cups. Dude deserves his numbers in the rafters and to be a life time Penguin. (UNLESS he requests it.)
- j.boyd919


Disagree...Its a business. If moving Malkin makes the team better then so be it. Keeping a player around because he helped you win in the past makes no sense to me. He deserves nothing more than his $9.5mil contract. Its no different than any other job.

Ray Bourque retired a Bruin
Peyton Manning a Colt
Jordan Bulls

Malkin can retire a Pen if he wants.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
Disagree...Its a business. If moving Malkin makes the team better then so be it. Keeping a player around because he helped you win in the past makes no sense to me. He deserves nothing more than his $9.5mil contract. Its no different than any other job.

Ray Bourque retired a Bruin
Peyton Manning a Colt
Jordan Bulls

Malkin can retire a Pen if he wants.

- sammy87


I don’t believe trading Malkin makes the team better.
MikeyKay
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 05.24.2017

Jun 5 @ 11:46 AM ET
This write up doesn't mention another scenario. One where they do trade Malkin and use a Kessel trade to net a 2C. That frees up money, potentially gets Sid a winger and (somewhat) fills a void if Malkin is dealt.
- jersey1414


All in a perfect world / scenario. You're forgetting Kessel's short list of teams able to trade for him. Also, Sid has a winger. See: Jake Guentzel. No Pens fan with a brain wants to trade Geno.
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