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Todd Cordell
New Jersey Devils
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.05.2011

May 21 @ 11:22 AM ET
Todd Cordell: Nico Hischier or Elias Pettersson?
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 21 @ 11:23 AM ET
Jack Hughes.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

May 21 @ 11:28 AM ET
Great write-up as always, Todd. I was unaware these two players were so close in some aspects
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 21 @ 11:34 AM ET
Thanks Todd, nice work!

Hischier for Sutter and the 10th pick. No room for him with Hughes on the way.




islansjet
Joined: 03.13.2017

May 21 @ 11:39 AM ET
Two players every team would love to have.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 21 @ 11:44 AM ET
And this would be where numbers and charts don't tell the real story. At the moment, Petterson is clearly a much better player and that is proven by the eye test. Those charts don't count into effect that all some guys need is one chance, Petterson makes things happen and when he gets his "chances" they go in. Idc how many chances some guy creates if they didn't go in. I still think this class will be determined in a few years, I wouldn't sleep on Nolan.
nyislsbossy
Joined: 05.31.2016

May 21 @ 11:47 AM ET
just a thought why not offer hall to the rangers for the # 2 pick this yr....
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 21 @ 12:02 PM ET
And this would be where numbers and charts don't tell the real story. At the moment, Petterson is clearly a much better player and that is proven by the eye test. Those charts don't count into effect that all some guys need is one chance, Petterson makes things happen and when he gets his "chances" they go in. Idc how many chances some guy creates if they didn't go in. I still think this class will be determined in a few years, I wouldn't sleep on Nolan.
- ClaudeFather

I could just as easily say that Nico is better by the eye test in that he always makes the right play. He never turns over the puck and always makes the smart pass while it's there and is always on defense. Petterson, as a dynamic offensive player, is prone to defensive lapses and may tend to turn over the puck.

See how that works? You can't say one great player is better than another just because they play well. Of course they do. Stats come into it, too.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 21 @ 12:06 PM ET
Jack Hughes.
- MartysBetter88

Petterson vs Hughes should be a much more interesting comparison in a few years.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 21 @ 12:09 PM ET
I could just as easily say that Nico is better by the eye test in that he always makes the right play. He never turns over the puck and always makes the smart pass while it's there and is always on defense. Petterson, as a dynamic offensive player, is prone to defensive lapses and may tend to turn over the puck.

See how that works? You can't say one great player is better than another just because they play well. Of course they do. Stats come into it, too.

- willschulme

Please stop.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
Please stop.
- ClaudeFather


You seem a little butt hurt over the Nolan Patrick thing.... Just saying.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

May 21 @ 12:11 PM ET
Todd Cordell: Nico Hischier or Elias Pettersson?
- Todd.Cordell

I would take Pettersson over Hischier
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 21 @ 12:17 PM ET
Please stop.
- ClaudeFather

What a convincing argument
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 21 @ 12:20 PM ET
Both are great young centers, no question, at this point I’d definitely go with Pettersson first overall in a redraft though. Patrick wouldn’t even be top four lol, sorry about your lucky Philly

Pettersson
Hischier
Heiskanen
Makar
Patrick
Dead_possessions
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.21.2019

May 21 @ 12:25 PM ET
I could just as easily say that Nico is better by the eye test in that he always makes the right play. He never turns over the puck and always makes the smart pass while it's there and is always on defense. Petterson, as a dynamic offensive player, is prone to defensive lapses and may tend to turn over the puck.

See how that works? You can't say one great player is better than another just because they play well. Of course they do. Stats come into it, too.

- willschulme


Anyone who says Pettersson is a defensive liability straight up doesn't watch him play. Yup he's had some gaffes like any younger player, Nico included. But he's also had some of the best displays of defensive acumen I've ever seen from a 20 year old.
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 21 @ 12:33 PM ET
Anyone who says Pettersson is a defensive liability straight up doesn't watch him play. Yup he's had some gaffes like any younger player, Nico included. But he's also had some of the best displays of defensive acumen I've ever seen from a 20 year old.
- Dead_possessions

You're probably right, but the main point was that his reasoning of "Petterson is better because eye test. He scores on more chances" is not enough to make a definitive statement about the players as a whole. Petterson is probably a better offensive player, but Nico is probably better defensively. Even there though, the difference is so small that the "eye test" is just not enough.
Queenie_5_hole
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 05.01.2015

May 21 @ 12:42 PM ET
Anyone who says Pettersson is a defensive liability straight up doesn't watch him play. Yup he's had some gaffes like any younger player, Nico included. But he's also had some of the best displays of defensive acumen I've ever seen from a 20 year old.
- Dead_possessions


Nico has been really impressive defensively. He's a great two way player despite having not filled out that much. Never gives up on a play.

Not saying he's better then Pettersson. Just saying.

Drafts are obviously very inexact sciences even for the experts. Vancouver did a great job and picked a gem. NJ did a great job by picking the right player between Nico and Nolan who were projected to be the best players. What are we arguing here?

Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 21 @ 12:45 PM ET
Nico has been really impressive defensively. He's a great two way player despite having not filled out that much. Never gives up on a play.

Not saying he's better then Pettersson. Just saying.

Drafts are obviously very inexact sciences even for the experts. Vancouver did a great job and picked a gem. NJ did a great job by picking the right player between Nico and Nolan who were projected to be the best players. What are we arguing here?

- Queenie_5_hole

No argument, we can all agree Patrick sucks
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 21 @ 12:53 PM ET
Hughes expected to sit vs Canada btw
nyrangers2
Joined: 07.09.2009

May 21 @ 12:56 PM ET
just a thought why not offer hall to the rangers for the # 2 pick this yr....
- nyislsbossy


Because Sather is not working there anymore
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

May 21 @ 12:59 PM ET
It might be better for the Devils to draft Kakko so when they pick Lafrenière in 2020 they won't have too many centers.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 21 @ 1:04 PM ET
Hughes expected to sit vs Canada btw
- willschulme

He has not looked good, one tournament but still.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

May 21 @ 1:05 PM ET
Both are great young centers, no question, at this point I’d definitely go with Pettersson first overall in a redraft though. Patrick wouldn’t even be top four lol, sorry about your lucky Philly

Pettersson
Hischier
Heiskanen
Makar
Patrick

- Pacificgem

I'm not worried about Patrick, give him time.
Pacificgem
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 21 @ 1:07 PM ET
I'm not worried about Patrick, give him time.
- ClaudeFather

I’m just poking the bear
willschulme
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.06.2013

May 21 @ 1:14 PM ET
He has not looked good, one tournament but still.
- ClaudeFather

Yeah not amazing, but he needs time to get going with people. He produced with Caufield and Zegras because he played consistently with them and on an even rotation. Here he's with Kane and JVR one minute, on the 4th line the next, and sitting the one after. Hard to get going like that.
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