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gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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May 19 @ 8:54 PM ET
technically they gave the leafs a late 5th for an early 7th
- homiedclown


That trade still doesn’t make sense ..

gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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May 19 @ 8:56 PM ET
It really isnt. We could just find a team that wants risto and has the space for him.

No need to bail out someone in the same division.

- Mentalorgasm5


I agree with that I was only saying Tampa because that was the rumor at the deadline

What’s your list of teams
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Arriving Somewhere But Not Here
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 19 @ 9:02 PM ET
It really isnt. We could just find a team that wants risto and has the space for him.

No need to bail out someone in the same division.

- Mentalorgasm5



Tampa made sense for us because of their forward depth, something we clearly lack.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 19 @ 9:03 PM ET
I agree

I realize that jbotts needed to trade ror, but that is starting to look like one of the worst. Especially if he wins the cup.

We lost in both ror trades

- Boss34


Some people around here are gonna have their head explode if ROR raises the Cup
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

May 19 @ 9:04 PM ET
Im not saying he’s Bergeron I’m going towards his tier and he would be become what Bergeron is to Boston (our Bergeron)

I don’t think the 30 is crazy at all he will get a more increased roll better line mates and his defense game will still be at an elite level ..

- gerbe75pts


Yeah, but odds are Tampa won't outscore the league's best by 40 goals next year either. They had an absurdly high SH%. They only took the 14th most shots.

I'm leery of anyone on Tampa. You can add a solid 25% to their point totals(for the non-superstars). Point is not a PPG+ player on this Sabres team, no way in hell. Eichel barely was.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 19 @ 9:05 PM ET
Some people around here are gonna have their head explode if ROR raises the Cup
- jdfitz77

I just laugh at the ignorance of some
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 19 @ 9:06 PM ET
Im not saying he’s Bergeron I’m going towards his tier and he would be become what Bergeron is to Boston (our Bergeron)

I don’t think the 30 is crazy at all he will get a more increased roll better line mates and his defense game will still be at an elite level ..

- gerbe75pts


Going from 20g to 30g is still a big leap though
Especially since he isn’t gonna have the talent around him here like he had in Tampa
I just think your going a bit too far with that projection
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 19 @ 9:07 PM ET
It really isnt. We could just find a team that wants risto and has the space for him.

No need to bail out someone in the same division.

- Mentalorgasm5


Someone is gonna “bail out” Tampa
Why not try to take advantage of it?
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

May 19 @ 9:09 PM ET
I just laugh at the ignorance of some
- Mentalorgasm5


We’ve all had our moments
but yeah...
the hate on ROR was always baffling to me
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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May 19 @ 9:09 PM ET
Yeah, but odds are Tampa won't outscore the league's best by 40 goals next year either. They had an absurdly high SH%. They only took the 14th most shots.

I'm leery of anyone on Tampa. You can add a solid 25% to their point totals(for the non-superstars). Point is not a PPG+ player on this Sabres team, no way in hell. Eichel barely was.

- Wetbandit1


I think we can all agree point is a 70-80 point player on a buffalo team

And let’s not forget jack got hurt and Came back to soon and his Game decreased let’s say if he never got injured he would probably be around 90 points
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 19 @ 9:11 PM ET
I think we can all agree point is a 70-80 point player on a buffalo team

And let’s not forget jack got hurt and Came back to soon and his Game decreased let’s say if he never got injured he would probably be around 90 points

- gerbe75pts


Imagine what Jack could do with an elite winger. Let the jerkfest of Skinner and Reinhart continue though.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 19 @ 9:12 PM ET
Someone is gonna “bail out” Tampa
Why not try to take advantage of it?

- jdfitz77

Because the offers are see are not beneficial to us.

You want to bail them out? Trade Risto for a top 6 forward, then acquire callahan and a 2nd for a 4th.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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May 19 @ 9:13 PM ET
Going from 20g to 30g is still a big leap though
Especially since he isn’t gonna have the talent around him here like he had in Tampa
I just think your going a bit too far with that projection

- jdfitz77


I wouldn’t say he had help by outstanding forwards .. if he played with Tyler Johnson Kucherov and maybe miller( I hate) I might agree
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
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May 19 @ 9:16 PM ET
Imagine what Jack could do with an elite winger. Let the jerkfest of Skinner and Reinhart continue though.
- Pegullaville


You have to keep skinner for 8m anything more you have to let him walk but jack might not like that
Wetbandit1
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May 19 @ 9:20 PM ET
I think we can all agree point is a 70-80 point player on a buffalo team

And let’s not forget jack got hurt and Came back to soon and his Game decreased let’s say if he never got injured he would probably be around 90 points

- gerbe75pts


65-70, maybe, if he had linemates. If rode Jack's wing he could be around 80.

Yes, let's say Jack had 90 points, Point had 92. Jack is much better. That should tell you all you need to know.

Killorn had more points than Cirelli with 1 second more ice time. Also heavily D-Zone usage. It's the Tampa effect, let's pump the brakes on Lightning players.
SABRES 89
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Joined: 02.17.2007

May 19 @ 9:21 PM ET
Because the offers are see are not beneficial to us.

You want to bail them out? Trade Risto for a top 6 forward, then acquire callahan and a 2nd for a 4th.

- Mentalorgasm5

We have no 2nd this year.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 19 @ 9:22 PM ET
We have no 2nd this year.
- SABRES 89

Yes I know. Acquiring Tampa's would be nice.
Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
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May 19 @ 9:26 PM ET
We have no 2nd this year.
- SABRES 89



He's trading a 4th, not a 2nd
SABRES 89
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May 19 @ 9:27 PM ET
Yes I know. Acquiring Tampa's would be nice.
- Mentalorgasm5

All this Tampa talk is foolish, especially when people keep mentioning we need to take Callahan back in any deal. Botterill will in no way help another team, his job is to get he best deal for the Sabres. We have enough boat anchor contracts.
TheHank
Location: Yawn.
Joined: 01.11.2017

May 19 @ 9:35 PM ET
All this Tampa talk is foolish, especially when people keep mentioning we need to take Callahan back in any deal. Botterill will in no way help another team, his job is to get he best deal for the Sabres. We have enough boat anchor contracts.
- SABRES 89

If taking on a bad contract for one year gets you a far better player or players for the next ten years, would that not be a better deal?
Powerslave
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May 19 @ 9:38 PM ET
If taking on a bad contract for one year gets you a far better player or players for the next ten years, would that not be a better deal?
- TheHank



I'd take Callahan for one year if it improves the deal.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

May 19 @ 9:39 PM ET
If taking on a bad contract for one year gets you a far better player or players for the next ten years, would that not be a better deal?
- TheHank


We expect someone to take Okposo off our hands. Callahan is nothing in comparison.

We should take full advantage of our cap situation.
TheHank
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Joined: 01.11.2017

May 19 @ 9:39 PM ET
I'd take Callahan for one year if it improves the deal.
- Powerslave

I don’t think it’s that far fetched.
TheHank
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Joined: 01.11.2017

May 19 @ 9:39 PM ET
We expect someone to take Okposo off our hands. Callahan is nothing in comparison.

We should take full advantage off our cap situation.

- Lunaion

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SABRES 89
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May 19 @ 9:49 PM ET
If taking on a bad contract for one year gets you a far better player or players for the next ten years, would that not be a better deal?
- TheHank

Why so him and Okposo can take the IR spots
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