He is a UFA and wants the opportunity to play full time in the NHL
- RatedR80

100% on giving pirri a shot. All he has done is score when given chance. Needs to play with some defensive guys as he isnt known to be the best at back checking, but if he can provide some offense for Nuge or CMD I am all for it. Some finishing touch away from our top 3 is needed.

We don’t have the assets to spare to land Karlsson. I’d try to do a trade of Benning+ mid level prospect + mid level pick for Nazem Kadri. He’s on the outs in Toronto, has a great contract, can play in all situations, has some grit. I think his stupid penalties are something that can be curbed as he matures too.

We don’t have the assets to spare to land Karlsson. I’d try to do a trade of Benning+ mid level prospect + mid level pick for Nazem Kadri. He’s on the outs in Toronto, has a great contract, can play in all situations, has some grit. I think his stupid penalties are something that can be curbed as he matures too.
- Ihatebrianburke[/
Nothing only mid level will get that done . Start with a our first this year + . Would have to give up salary back to and probably from our D . I doubt they are going to bite on Russell ...

Nope to Zucker.... trade for William Karlsson
- Reveen.

Yes to Zucker; don't think they end up trading Karlsson.

Samorukov might be a decent sweetener to add in Lucic deal.

Samorukov might be a decent sweetener to add in Lucic deal.
- Dieselhead

No. Not at all.

Samorukov might be a decent sweetener to add in Lucic deal.
- Dieselhead

Much better to keep him. Lucic can be dealt with a 2nd and maybe a lesser prospect like Bear.

Bouchard and samarokov is going to be a solid top pair. I think persson will def push for top pairing as well.

Bouchard and samarokov is going to be a solid top pair. I think persson will def push for top pairing as well.
- oil90

Holy (frank), you're optimistic If even one of them turns out to be a 2nd pairing Dman, we'll have done well.

Holy (frank), you're optimistic If even one of them turns out to be a 2nd pairing Dman, we'll have done well.
- MaximumBone

No doubt. That’s a little more reasonable. If all three turned into serviceable NHL dmen it would be a huge win for us. Three top pairing guys, that’s just not realistic at all. Hard enough to find just one.

Of all the D guys I feel like Bouchard has the best chance at being a top pair defender in the NHL. Samorukov reminds me a lot of Nurse tbh. Persson is impossible to tell at this point but he does look promising to be a top 6 defender. Jones is a 5/6 possibly 4. Bear is likely to be a 6 and PP specialist type of player. Laggeson looks to be a potential 5/6 guy as well. All in all the future of the Oilers defense looks very bright. Just have to hope we dont trade the wrong guys as there will not be room for all of them.

Of all the D guys I feel like Bouchard has the best chance at being a top pair defender in the NHL. Samorukov reminds me a lot of Nurse tbh. Persson is impossible to tell at this point but he does look promising to be a top 6 defender. Jones is a 5/6 possibly 4. Bear is likely to be a 6 and PP specialist type of player. Laggeson looks to be a potential 5/6 guy as well. All in all the future of the Oilers defense looks very bright. Just have to hope we dont trade the wrong guys as there will not be room for all of them.
- Lemmewinks

I don't hate the Nurse comparable for Samy. He's a tougher study as we have less track on him as a dominant prospect, but I'm inclined to suggest within the Parayko to Severson range: hard-nosed guys with big shots and decision-making issues whose offense peaked later. I certainly think he's less likely to achieve that goal, though.

I still think I like Jones' chances the best as of now. I think Bouchard is more likely to achieve top-4 status, but I think Jones has the skating to achieve more- so long as he can learn to keep his angles and gaps tighter. If I were to give my estimate of likenesses to current NHLers, they'd be as follows:

Bouchard --- Fowler maybe less physical Carlson if offense translates
Jones --- Schmidt maybe Josi if offense can grow
Lagesson --- Nemeth maybe a touch better passer
Bear --- Y Weber

This is a rough approximation of their potential combined with their skillsets, but that's about what my expectations are at.

Samorukov dominating defensively and showing really well. Guelph's offense has looked out of sync in large as a result of some repeated mistakes and misplays by Ratcliffe. Suzuki being his usual dominant self despite that.

Much better to keep him. Lucic can be dealt with a 2nd and maybe a lesser prospect like Bear.
- MaximumBone

I'm guessing that that type of package has already been offered. You're going to have to put a hell of a lot of lipstick on that pig to sell it.

We don’t have the assets to spare to land Karlsson. I’d try to do a trade of Benning+ mid level prospect + mid level pick for Nazem Kadri. He’s on the outs in Toronto, has a great contract, can play in all situations, has some grit. I think his stupid penalties are something that can be curbed as he matures too.
- Ihatebrianburke

Nylander !!!

He’s got the game to be a 60-70 pt guy for years to come. His level of talent from the wing would do wonders for us
Not sure what it is exactly, but there’s a few guys that have owned the oilers over the last while. Every time we play the leafs he seems to run roughshod over us and be the best player on the ice not named Connor imo

I screamed for skinner all 2018, ima keep screaming for this guy now until he inevitably regains form and is no longer even a trade option. (I doubt he’s even Much of one now, but with the looming marner deal, and willies struggles this year after the holdout, gotta think it’s at least possible

Nurse + might just get it done. And I’d drive Darnell to the airport myself to do it


I could definitely live with ehlers too

I'm guessing that that type of package has already been offered. You're going to have to put a hell of a lot of lipstick on that pig to sell it.
- Dieselhead

And I'm guessing it hasn't. Lucic+those assets with some level of money retained (1.5 to 3mil, depending on the step 2) to an intermediary team who will retain the maximum amount they can (50% of what they receive) in exchange for the assets from Edmonton and send him to a team that wants him at his now heavily discounted rate (between 1.5mil and 2.25mil) and that he agrees to go to in exchange for another minor asset.

Edmonton gets: Cap space and freedom from most of Lucic's cap hit
Ottawa gets: Bear, a 2nd, another minor asset and 1.5 to 2.25 in cap space
Third team gets: Lucic at a palatable rate for a guy who, despite all his flaws, was still 50% GF away from McDavid and can play a role in suppressing goals (both for and against)

Nylander !!!

He’s got the game to be a 60-70 pt guy for years to come. His level of talent from the wing would do wonders for us
Not sure what it is exactly, but there’s a few guys that have owned the oilers over the last while. Every time we play the leafs he seems to run roughshod over us and be the best player on the ice not named Connor imo

I screamed for skinner all 2018, ima keep screaming for this guy now until he inevitably regains form and is no longer even a trade option. (I doubt he’s even Much of one now, but with the looming marner deal, and willies struggles this year after the holdout, gotta think it’s at least possible

Nurse + might just get it done. And I’d drive Darnell to the airport myself to do it


I could definitely live with ehlers too
- HB77

I could live with this, but I'd sooner try to leverage our 2020 1st and Puljujarvi for a top-6 winger. If nothing comes of that, then I'd look into moving Klefbom. Then I'd open up the talks for Nurse.

https://detroitsportsnati...Z3e11WUFaK1ayarlzRoaZCxXg

Found this. Don’t know how much there is to it but I’m intrigued and even more apprehensive.

https://detroitsportsnati...Z3e11WUFaK1ayarlzRoaZCxXg

Found this. Don’t know how much there is to it but I’m intrigued and even more apprehensive.
- RafiDRW

Nothing to it. Aside from the fact that rumors around this time of year almost never actualize, the idea behind it is even pretty flawed. The principle behind it only makes any sense if the 2.7mil in cap space they save for one year ends up being the difference between signing a guy like Nyquist or not and that Holland believes this is the only way to do it- which, after two weeks on the job, he shouldn't think.

I could live with this, but I'd sooner try to leverage our 2020 1st and Puljujarvi for a top-6 winger. If nothing comes of that, then I'd look into moving Klefbom. Then I'd open up the talks for Nurse.
- MaximumBone

I’d happily deal puju if that’s what it took. gotta assume the leafs want d, but a cheaper winger with upside might also pique their interest

Klef has his issues and not actually being on the ice for full seasons is certainly the biggest. But no chance I deal him before nurse. I’ve got very little confidence nurse can ever get to the game I’ve seen klefbom be at (even if it’s somewhat sporadic)
And he certainly doesn’t move the puck nearly as well as klef.
A weapon this team needs far more of, not less.
In fact, while I realize scoring from the wing is paramount, I think we’re desperate for another puck mover as well.
Changes our attack drastically

Spurgeon would be pretty nice to have.

I’d happily deal puju if that’s what it took. gotta assume the leafs want d, but a cheaper winger with upside might also pique their interest

Klef has his issues and not actually being on the ice for full seasons is certainly the biggest. But no chance I deal him before nurse. I’ve got very little confidence nurse can ever get to the game I’ve seen klefbom be at (even if it’s somewhat sporadic)
And he certainly doesn’t move the puck nearly as well as klef.
A weapon this team needs far more of, not less.
In fact, while I realize scoring from the wing is paramount, I think we’re desperate for another puck mover as well.
Changes our attack drastically

Spurgeon would be pretty nice to have.
- HB77

Agreed on Nurse vs Klefbom. Klef has shown what he is capable of in longer stretches. Nurse is just entering that and might not have the upside Klef does. Not to mention Klefs contract vs what Nurse will likely ask for after next season if he continues at his progress. Optimally Nurse, Klef and Larsson are all held onto unless it brings a high upside winger.

As a low cost option I have suggested a few like Pirri, but would anyone consider Burakovsky from Washington if they dont qualify him? Formerly a 1st round pick, that hasnt really worked out in Washington to get a top 6 spot. One of the nerds can look up his advanced stats for us, but he seems by eye to be a better 2 way fw that could probably make a nice compliment on the 2nd line to Nuge and Pirri if we could get both of those guys at a tolerable cost.

Nothing to it. Aside from the fact that rumors around this time of year almost never actualize, the idea behind it is even pretty flawed. The principle behind it only makes any sense if the 2.7mil in cap space they save for one year ends up being the difference between signing a guy like Nyquist or not and that Holland believes this is the only way to do it- which, after two weeks on the job, he shouldn't think.
- MaximumBone

I figured as much. Our center depth looks fine and really don’t need Nuge unless we had a way to dump Helm too. Mantha is on Fire lately and I highly doubt we’d give up on him unless it was for Nurse or Bouchard.

I figured as much. Our center depth looks fine and really don’t need Nuge unless we had a way to dump Helm too. Mantha is on Fire lately and I highly doubt we’d give up on him unless it was for Nurse or Bouchard.
- RafiDRW

How about Athanasiou? What would you want for him?

100% on giving pirri a shot. All he has done is score when given chance. Needs to play with some defensive guys as he isnt known to be the best at back checking, but if he can provide some offense for Nuge or CMD I am all for it. Some finishing touch away from our top 3 is needed.
- wreckage

I would love to get Pirri. He deserves a shot at being a full time NHLer. Mid round pick to get his rights?

Nylander !!!

He’s got the game to be a 60-70 pt guy for years to come. His level of talent from the wing would do wonders for us
Not sure what it is exactly, but there’s a few guys that have owned the oilers over the last while. Every time we play the leafs he seems to run roughshod over us and be the best player on the ice not named Connor imo

I screamed for skinner all 2018, ima keep screaming for this guy now until he inevitably regains form and is no longer even a trade option. (I doubt he’s even Much of one now, but with the looming marner deal, and willies struggles this year after the holdout, gotta think it’s at least possible

Nurse + might just get it done. And I’d drive Darnell to the airport myself to do it


I could definitely live with ehlers too
- HB77

I don’t know why, but I’m just not sold on Nylander. I think he’s overrated. A soft player and a bit of a premadonna like his daddy. He has skill for sure. I want someone with a little more grit and finish. Plus his contract is pretty expensive for my liking. We’ll still be dealing with the cap issues PC created for us for a while. Hopefully we can find some wingers and make the playoffs this year. I don’t know how many more years we can be on the outside looking in with the best player in the world before he says (frank) it , I’m out.