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VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2019 Weak Draft
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 16 @ 4:40 PM ET
R I P Rick Flair wooooooooooooooooo
1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The future's so bright Woo's gotta Huges shades.
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 16 @ 4:41 PM ET
The Saturna Island vineyard has been closed (and overgrown/unattended/abondoned) for a few years now. My Mom used to live right next to it for about 10 years. Pretty sh*tty wines for the most part, the odd gem. F*cking morons running the place!
- Marwood


I was at a wine release a decade ago and every single wine they brought was faulted in one way or another. Abondons you say, wonder what the property is worth...

Edit - damn, too late. Sea Star (Pender Island) already bought it.
1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The future's so bright Woo's gotta Huges shades.
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 16 @ 4:41 PM ET
R I P Rick Flair wooooooooooooooooo
- VANTEL


Is that the third in your prediction?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Orcalini Bay
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 16 @ 4:42 PM ET
Is that the third in your prediction?
- 1970vintage

That's quite the threesome.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 16 @ 4:44 PM ET
I believe it will be as quiet as it is every other year. I guess we’ll see. My guess would be that there are zero offer sheets signed this off season.
- 1970vintage


100%

teams could have taken a shot at nylander last year and didnt, the os system is broken
1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The future's so bright Woo's gotta Huges shades.
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 16 @ 4:48 PM ET
My guess is 1-2 but 0 wouldn’t surprise me.
As for quiet that’s a hard no given how many top teams have cap problems. Add in the e-draft is looming not too far ahead & it’s a certainty IMO.

Which domino falls 1st?

- Nighthawk


If you mean there will be a lot of player movement, then I agree. I’m talking specifically RFA’s receiving offer sheets. Lots of guys will get traded/signed to new teams, or go to Europe because they can’t get a deal in the NHL.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 16 @ 4:51 PM ET
If you mean there will be a lot of player movement, then I agree. I’m talking specifically RFA’s receiving offer sheets. Lots of guys will get traded/signed to new teams, or go to Europe because they can’t get a deal in the NHL.
- 1970vintage


Player movement yes
VanHockeyGuy
Location: Make Hockey Violent Again. Penticton
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 16 @ 4:54 PM ET
100%

teams could have taken a shot at nylander last year and didnt, the os system is broken

- johnnykarate

Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: North of the 49th, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 16 @ 5:00 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy

7m per? No thx lol
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 16 @ 5:04 PM ET
I believe it will be as quiet as it is every other year. I guess we’ll see. My guess would be that there are zero offer sheets signed this off season.
- 1970vintage

There will be zero
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Orcalini Bay
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 16 @ 5:10 PM ET
100%

teams could have taken a shot at nylander last year and didnt, the os system is broken

- johnnykarate

Is it? or is it working just the way owners want it?
Retinalz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 01.31.2015

May 16 @ 5:14 PM ET
R I P Rick Flair wooooooooooooooooo
- VANTEL

Reports are that he is in hospital, not dead.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 16 @ 5:17 PM ET
the ONLY person i would even think about offering would be Kapanen, and that is strictly because the leafs are handcuffed so hard with their cap, that they could not afford to match at 4 million (right now anyway), and that would only cost a 2nd round pick.
- Codes1087

i understand the notion as it's been brought up several times here but is it realistic?

1) why would kapanen sign with a bottom dweller? based on money, he'll only be getting $1m more approximately than what the leafs would offer. if he's going to sign an OS, why not try for a contender. based on the $4m thrown around here, why wouldn't multiple teams be making offers?
2) why wouldn't the leafs match and work the cap to accommodate a $4m hit? they have the summer to be 10% over the cap so it's not like it would be time sensitive.

i get the leafs have cap troubles but offersheeting a $4m guy won't work. they'll match and make other moves to make the cap work imo.
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 16 @ 5:21 PM ET
i understand the notion as it's been brought up several times here but is it realistic?

1) why would kapanen sign with a bottom dweller? based on money, he'll only be getting $1m more approximately than what the leafs would offer. if he's going to sign an OS, why not try for a contender. based on the $4m thrown around here, why wouldn't multiple teams be making offers?
2) why wouldn't the leafs match and work the cap to accommodate a $4m hit? they have the summer to be 10% over the cap so it's not like it would be time sensitive.

i get the leafs have cap troubles but offersheeting a $4m guy won't work. they'll match and make other moves to make the cap work imo.

- RealityChecker

Force them to match the amount because f*ck the leafs?
VANTEL
Vancouver Canucks
Location: 2019 Weak Draft
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 16 @ 5:21 PM ET
Reports are that he is in hospital, not dead.
- Retinalz



WWE removed their tweet woooooooo
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
Is it? or is it working just the way owners want it?
- A_SteamingLombardi


very true
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 16 @ 5:22 PM ET
i understand the notion as it's been brought up several times here but is it realistic?

1) why would kapanen sign with a bottom dweller? based on money, he'll only be getting $1m more approximately than what the leafs would offer. if he's going to sign an OS, why not try for a contender. based on the $4m thrown around here, why wouldn't multiple teams be making offers?
2) why wouldn't the leafs match and work the cap to accommodate a $4m hit? they have the summer to be 10% over the cap so it's not like it would be time sensitive.

i get the leafs have cap troubles but offersheeting a $4m guy won't work. they'll match and make other moves to make the cap work imo.

- RealityChecker


ive always thought the whole idea of offer sheeting to be completely stupid, and the fact that its only happened once in 22 years, leads me to believe that teams and GM's would agree with me lol. At the end of the day, the liklihood of any player being offer sheeted is slim to none, and more likely they are traded and re-signed or just re-signed in general. The only reason I bring up Kapanen, and why most I think do as well, is because Dubas is so cap-f*cked, its going to be hard to keep any "2nd tier" player while they are committed to the others. If its between a lowball offer from TOR as they are paying their "star" players big money, or getting an offer at 4.2 mill from a different team to play elsewhere in a bigger role, it might not be that hard of a decision for him.

In the end though, its all just shooting the sh*t when it comes to these proposals.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 16 @ 5:30 PM ET
Force them to match the amount because f*ck the leafs?
- NorthNuck

fcuk the leafs but.... they'll match and everyone and their dog (read media) will talk about how the canucks failed or how desperate benning is or some other bs.

it'll be more frustrating for the canucks than the leafs with how it'll play out.
1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The future's so bright Woo's gotta Huges shades.
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 16 @ 5:32 PM ET
ive always thought the whole idea of offer sheeting to be completely stupid, and the fact that its only happened once in 22 years, leads me to believe that teams and GM's would agree with me lol. At the end of the day, the liklihood of any player being offer sheeted is slim to none, and more likely they are traded and re-signed or just re-signed in general. The only reason I bring up Kapanen, and why most I think do as well, is because Dubas is so cap-f*cked, its going to be hard to keep any "2nd tier" player while they are committed to the others. If its between a lowball offer from TOR as they are paying their "star" players big money, or getting an offer at 4.2 mill from a different team to play elsewhere in a bigger role, it might not be that hard of a decision for him.

In the end though, its all just shooting the sh*t when it comes to these proposals.

- Codes1087


They (leafs) will move Kadri and Zeitsev and let Gardiner walk to make room for Kappy. Marleau will likely not be moveable. They still have more ELC players coming to round out the roster.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 16 @ 5:34 PM ET
They (leafs) will move Kadri and Zeitsev and let Gardiner walk to make room for Kappy. Marleau will likely not be moveable. They still have more ELC players coming to round out the roster.
- 1970vintage


I am not super familiar with buyouts, but I think they are stuck with Zaitsev, as with Marleau.

Even after Gardiner leaves, they still only had just a tad over 5 mill to sign 3 players. I imagine Dubas makes a few trades to make room for the 3 remaining players he needs to sign.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

May 16 @ 5:35 PM ET
ive always thought the whole idea of offer sheeting to be completely stupid, and the fact that its only happened once in 22 years, leads me to believe that teams and GM's would agree with me lol. At the end of the day, the liklihood of any player being offer sheeted is slim to none, and more likely they are traded and re-signed or just re-signed in general. The only reason I bring up Kapanen, and why most I think do as well, is because Dubas is so cap-f*cked, its going to be hard to keep any "2nd tier" player while they are committed to the others. If its between a lowball offer from TOR as they are paying their "star" players big money, or getting an offer at 4.2 mill from a different team to play elsewhere in a bigger role, it might not be that hard of a decision for him.

In the end though, its all just shooting the sh*t when it comes to these proposals.

- Codes1087

i almost think it'd be easier to OS a tier 1 guy than a $4m guy.

offer sheets work (imo) due to the offer being substantially more than the original team can offer. how much more will kap get with the canucks than any other team (even the leafs)? not much more is my guess.

and then it comes to fit. if kap is serious about signing an OS, he'll pick the team and the leafs will engineer a trade. i would think that the leafs would absolutely match any offer for him or give him a "good" contract with the understanding (known to the player or not) that they'll trade him in the offseason or later.
1970vintage
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The future's so bright Woo's gotta Huges shades.
Joined: 11.11.2010

May 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
I am not super familiar with buyouts, but I think they are stuck with Zaitsev, as with Marleau.

Even after Gardiner leaves, they still only had just a tad over 5 mill to sign 3 players. I imagine Dubas makes a few trades to make room for the 3 remaining players he needs to sign.

- Codes1087


If they pay a premium I’m sure they can rid themselves of Zaitsey.
Codes1087
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.24.2014

May 16 @ 5:40 PM ET
If they pay a premium I’m sure they can rid themselves of Zaitsey.
- 1970vintage


4.5 mill AAV till 2023/2024 for what iv'e heard from leafs fans as a "dog sh*t" dman, that would be one hefty premium for any team to take.
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 16 @ 5:42 PM ET
I am not super familiar with buyouts, but I think they are stuck with Zaitsev, as with Marleau.

Even after Gardiner leaves, they still only had just a tad over 5 mill to sign 3 players. I imagine Dubas makes a few trades to make room for the 3 remaining players he needs to sign.

- Codes1087


capfriendly's number for next season includes horton's contract. they have 9m which is tight but moving one or both of zaitsev/kadri should get them close

or marleau has a 'LTIR retirement' and they free up $6m. if lamorello was still around you could almost guarentee that happening
johnnykarate
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.03.2018

May 16 @ 5:45 PM ET
i almost think it'd be easier to OS a tier 1 guy than a $4m guy.

offer sheets work (imo) due to the offer being substantially more than the original team can offer. how much more will kap get with the canucks than any other team (even the leafs)? not much more is my guess.

and then it comes to fit. if kap is serious about signing an OS, he'll pick the team and the leafs will engineer a trade. i would think that the leafs would absolutely match any offer for him or give him a "good" contract with the understanding (known to the player or not) that they'll trade him in the offseason or later.

- RealityChecker


player has to want to accept the deal. if his agent is half decent he'll know the value of endorsements in toronto is likely better than anywhere else, so any offer has to blow him away
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