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TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 15 @ 11:41 AM ET
Whatever you do, please, please (I'm begging you) do not include Nathan Mackinnon.
- PatC80


What if we trade Nylander for Crosby. Leafs could use a guy like that!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe.
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 11:42 AM ET
Ahh you're one with the hoodie. Good. Good.
- RickJames77

I still have the hat I bought at the November 5, 2000 Bills @ Pats game.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 15 @ 11:43 AM ET
It also speaks to the Leafs' lack of a presidential development system.

We had to re-sign Shanny to big bucks because the president of the Marlies is nowhere near ready to be president of the big club.

Once again, that's on Dubas.

- Atomic Wedgie


I'm not sold on Shanny's stats. People keep talking about numbers but does he pass the eye test? To me it just looks like he sits in a box at the SBA and watches hockey games.
BorjeFan4Ever
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

May 15 @ 11:44 AM ET
I did, it said Chara had a goal and 4 assists in a 7-6 loss to the Canadiens. Chara also had 17 cross-checking penalties.. My, how times have changed..

Must have been all the molasses that flooded the area.

- PatC80



how long a suspension did Kadri get for the spill?
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 15 @ 11:45 AM ET
how long a suspension did Kadri get for the spill?
- BorjeFan4Ever


He deserved it, all they did was kill his dog.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
I'm not sold on Shanny's stats. People keep talking about numbers but does he pass the eye test? To me it just looks like he sits in a box at the SBA and watches hockey games.
- TheMussel



What's his caresi?
MaximusAurelius
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Joseph Woll - starting goalie Leafs 2020-2021 season
Joined: 04.23.2012

May 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
If combined AAV between Tavares + Marner + Matthews indeed is 33mln/year (which is very probable within a .5mln range) seems quite obvious that you cannot afford a lot of other highly paid FWs.
Even if Leafs would trade Marleau - that's only a 1y relief.
Better to trade Nylander, and Johnsson (if asking for more than 2.75mln AAV) and Kapanen (if asking for more than 3.25-3.5mln AAV).
Kadri potentially traded as well - 4.5mln AAV is in principle a great contract for Kadri; but not for a #3C on this Leafs team considering the cap.
Leafs have to accept that they'll probably have to downgrade on some positions in order to remain under the salary cap ceiling ánd be at least as or more competitive as this season.

More competitive still means an upgrade on D, and an upgrade on #2 goalie, and a#3C that actually kills penalties and wins defensive zone faceoffs.

FWs you keep for sure (based on quality & AAV)
1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Tavares
4. Hyman
5. Moore
6. Kapanen (if AAV <3.5mln)
7. Johnsson (if AAV <2.75mln)
8. Brown
9. Ennis (if AAV<2.5mln)
10. Gauthier
11. Korshkov/ other Ruski / Petan / few other young AHL'ers
12. Marleau (nearly unmoveable contract)

I'd deal Nylander and Kadri, freeing up around 11mln - AAV that comes back in return.

#3C --> I'd like the Leafs to target Faksa (2.2mln AAV) from Dallas; Dallas might be interested in a deal around Kadri for Faksa +

Instead of Nylander - get a LW for Matthews' line.
First choice would be Keller from Arizona. (Nylander + (Brown/Johnsson) for Keller?).
Alternatively, Leafs could trade Nylander (+) for a defenseman from Carolina or Anaheim (Manson + ) ánd sing UFA Jeff Skinner for Nylander money, or Ferland for 3mln AAV.


Leafs have plenty of options - but Dubas has to take a bit of a risk instead of taking the 'secure path' of keeping some guys without really making a bold move, and keeping apparent holes on #2LW, top4 RHD and backup goalie.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Keller / Skinner / Ferland - Matthews - Kapanen
Johnsson - Faksa - Moore
Marleau - Gauthier - Ruski 1 / 2

and Leafs would free up 2.2 mln from Kadri trade, and potentially another 2.something from trading Brown (he's not even in this lineup; I'd like Leafs to keep him).

Seems straightforward to trade Nylander and Kadri to address more urgent holes in the lineup.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
What's his caresi?
- PatC80


Godamn not enough. I don't see him fist pumping ever.
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: You never go full reverse jinx
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 15 @ 11:47 AM ET
I still have the hat I bought at the November 5, 2000 Bills @ Pats game.
- Atomic Wedgie

I was at that game...dead serious. My first ever Patriots game.

That's too funny
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 11:48 AM ET
how long a suspension did Kadri get for the spill?
- BorjeFan4Ever



Kadri received a permaban from HB.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

May 15 @ 11:51 AM ET
Godamn not enough. I don't see him fist pumping ever.
- TheMussel


Now, that you mentioned that, I actually noticed that too. In 6 years, we will finally be able to start a 5 yr plan.

Franking Dubas.
Franking Nylander.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe.
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
He deserved it, all they did was kill his dog.
- TheMussel

I saw that franking movie the other day.

Like, wtf?

How many people died in that film?

I don't mean to sound like a US Republican governor or anything, but holy frank, Hollywood really has no moral compass.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe.
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 11:52 AM ET
I was at that game...dead serious. My first ever Patriots game.

That's too funny

- RickJames77

We've had this conversation before.

It's weird - usually I'm the one who was drunk and doesn't remember.
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 🚕🗻6️⃣9️⃣🦇🦆🌭🌽👓🐓🎅🦔🤘💎📺🍗🌿🌋🎤🐒💙🔞, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 11:53 AM ET
If combined AAV between Tavares + Marner + Matthews indeed is 33mln/year (which is very probable within a .5mln range) seems quite obvious that you cannot afford a lot of other highly paid FWs.
Even if Leafs would trade Marleau - that's only a 1y relief.
Better to trade Nylander, and Johnsson (if asking for more than 2.75mln AAV) and Kapanen (if asking for more than 3.25-3.5mln AAV).
Kadri potentially traded as well - 4.5mln AAV is in principle a great contract for Kadri; but not for a #3C on this Leafs team considering the cap.
Leafs have to accept that they'll probably have to downgrade on some positions in order to remain under the salary cap ceiling ánd be at least as or more competitive as this season.

More competitive still means an upgrade on D, and an upgrade on #2 goalie, and a#3C that actually kills penalties and wins defensive zone faceoffs.

FWs you keep for sure (based on quality & AAV)
1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Tavares
4. Hyman
5. Moore
6. Kapanen (if AAV <3.5mln)
7. Johnsson (if AAV <2.75mln)
8. Brown
9. Ennis (if AAV<2.5mln)
10. Gauthier
11. Korshkov/ other Ruski / Petan / few other young AHL'ers
12. Marleau (nearly unmoveable contract)

I'd deal Nylander and Kadri, freeing up around 11mln - AAV that comes back in return.

#3C --> I'd like the Leafs to target Faksa (2.2mln AAV) from Dallas; Dallas might be interested in a deal around Kadri for Faksa +

Instead of Nylander - get a LW for Matthews' line.
First choice would be Keller from Arizona. (Nylander + (Brown/Johnsson) for Keller?).
Alternatively, Leafs could trade Nylander (+) for a defenseman from Carolina or Anaheim (Manson + ) ánd sing UFA Jeff Skinner for Nylander money, or Ferland for 3mln AAV.


Leafs have plenty of options - but Dubas has to take a bit of a risk instead of taking the 'secure path' of keeping some guys without really making a bold move, and keeping apparent holes on #2LW, top4 RHD and backup goalie.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Keller / Skinner / Ferland - Matthews - Kapanen
Johnsson - Faksa - Moore
Marleau - Gauthier - Ruski 1 / 2

and Leafs would free up 2.2 mln from Kadri trade, and potentially another 2.something from trading Brown (he's not even in this lineup; I'd like Leafs to keep him).

Seems straightforward to trade Nylander and Kadri to address more urgent holes in the lineup.

- MaximusAurelius

Oh
RickJames77
Boston Bruins
Location: You never go full reverse jinx
Joined: 04.03.2013

May 15 @ 11:53 AM ET
We've had this conversation before.

It's weird - usually I'm the one who was drunk and doesn't remember.

- Atomic Wedgie

woops
Arctic_AARDVARK
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: 🚕🗻6️⃣9️⃣🦇🦆🌭🌽👓🐓🎅🦔🤘💎📺🍗🌿🌋🎤🐒💙🔞, AB
Joined: 07.24.2011

May 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
I was at that game...dead serious. My first ever Patriots game.

That's too funny

- RickJames77

The humour escapes me..

You went to a football game?

Crazy how the universe works, huh?
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 15 @ 11:54 AM ET
I saw that franking movie the other day.

Like, wtf?

How many people died in that film?

I don't mean to sound like a US Republican governor or anything, but holy frank, Hollywood really has no moral compass.

- Atomic Wedgie


Chapter 3 comes out on Friday.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 15 @ 11:57 AM ET
I saw that franking movie the other day.

Like, wtf?

How many people died in that film?

I don't mean to sound like a US Republican governor or anything, but holy frank, Hollywood really has no moral compass.

- Atomic Wedgie


Like 2?

We're talking about Red starring Brian Cox right?
senstroll
Location: Sens Suck, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

May 15 @ 11:58 AM ET
If combined AAV between Tavares + Marner + Matthews indeed is 33mln/year (which is very probable within a .5mln range) seems quite obvious that you cannot afford a lot of other highly paid FWs.
Even if Leafs would trade Marleau - that's only a 1y relief.
Better to trade Nylander, and Johnsson (if asking for more than 2.75mln AAV) and Kapanen (if asking for more than 3.25-3.5mln AAV).
Kadri potentially traded as well - 4.5mln AAV is in principle a great contract for Kadri; but not for a #3C on this Leafs team considering the cap.
Leafs have to accept that they'll probably have to downgrade on some positions in order to remain under the salary cap ceiling ánd be at least as or more competitive as this season.

More competitive still means an upgrade on D, and an upgrade on #2 goalie, and a#3C that actually kills penalties and wins defensive zone faceoffs.

FWs you keep for sure (based on quality & AAV)
1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Tavares
4. Hyman
5. Moore
6. Kapanen (if AAV <3.5mln)
7. Johnsson (if AAV <2.75mln)
8. Brown
9. Ennis (if AAV<2.5mln)
10. Gauthier
11. Korshkov/ other Ruski / Petan / few other young AHL'ers
12. Marleau (nearly unmoveable contract)

I'd deal Nylander and Kadri, freeing up around 11mln - AAV that comes back in return.

#3C --> I'd like the Leafs to target Faksa (2.2mln AAV) from Dallas; Dallas might be interested in a deal around Kadri for Faksa +

Instead of Nylander - get a LW for Matthews' line.
First choice would be Keller from Arizona. (Nylander + (Brown/Johnsson) for Keller?).
Alternatively, Leafs could trade Nylander (+) for a defenseman from Carolina or Anaheim (Manson + ) ánd sing UFA Jeff Skinner for Nylander money, or Ferland for 3mln AAV.


Leafs have plenty of options - but Dubas has to take a bit of a risk instead of taking the 'secure path' of keeping some guys without really making a bold move, and keeping apparent holes on #2LW, top4 RHD and backup goalie.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Keller / Skinner / Ferland - Matthews - Kapanen
Johnsson - Faksa - Moore
Marleau - Gauthier - Ruski 1 / 2

and Leafs would free up 2.2 mln from Kadri trade, and potentially another 2.something from trading Brown (he's not even in this lineup; I'd like Leafs to keep him).

Seems straightforward to trade Nylander and Kadri to address more urgent holes in the lineup.

- MaximusAurelius


Marleau and Zietsev are the problems Dubas needs to figure out.

The end
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe.
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 12:00 PM ET
The humour escapes me..

You went to a football game?

Crazy how the universe works, huh?

- Arctic_AARDVARK

I'm going through my old photos of the game - perhaps me and RJ were destined to be together.

https://www.thestar.com/l...ears_before_they_met.html

Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: At the centre of the hockey universe.
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 15 @ 12:02 PM ET
I saw that franking movie the other day.

Like, wtf?

How many people died in that film?

I don't mean to sound like a US Republican governor or anything, but holy frank, Hollywood really has no moral compass.

- Atomic Wedgie

And the answer is 84.

https://www.cinemablend.c...reeves-kills-in-john-wick

Adam French
New York Islanders
Location: I've owned him so many times over the past six months. Turns out I should have just rented him
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 15 @ 12:03 PM ET
I'm going through my old photos of the game - perhaps me and RJ were destined to be together.

https://www.thestar.com/l...ears_before_they_met.html

- Atomic Wedgie

TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Montréal, QC
Joined: 09.24.2013

May 15 @ 12:04 PM ET
And the answer is 84.

https://www.cinemablend.c...reeves-kills-in-john-wick

- Atomic Wedgie


ooooohhhh john wick

I always thought they ripped off half the plot from Red just to give Keanu an excuse to kill a small village

In fact, I'm surprised that Hollywood let it happen. Both plots can be summed up with:

Criminals kill a man's dog that he got from his late wife. The man seeks justice for his dog's death and ends up killing the people who killed his dog.
Adam French
New York Islanders
Location: I've owned him so many times over the past six months. Turns out I should have just rented him
Joined: 04.06.2011

May 15 @ 12:11 PM ET
ooooohhhh john wick

I always thought they ripped off half the plot from Red just to give Keanu an excuse to kill a small village

In fact, I'm surprised that Hollywood let it happen. Both plots can be summed up with:

Criminals kill a man's dog that he got from his late wife. The man seeks justice for his dog's death and ends up killing the people who killed his dog.

- TheMussel

You gorgot the Assassin Underworld.
.OHOH.
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.30.2017

May 15 @ 12:21 PM ET
If combined AAV between Tavares + Marner + Matthews indeed is 33mln/year (which is very probable within a .5mln range) seems quite obvious that you cannot afford a lot of other highly paid FWs.
Even if Leafs would trade Marleau - that's only a 1y relief.
Better to trade Nylander, and Johnsson (if asking for more than 2.75mln AAV) and Kapanen (if asking for more than 3.25-3.5mln AAV).
Kadri potentially traded as well - 4.5mln AAV is in principle a great contract for Kadri; but not for a #3C on this Leafs team considering the cap.
Leafs have to accept that they'll probably have to downgrade on some positions in order to remain under the salary cap ceiling ánd be at least as or more competitive as this season.

More competitive still means an upgrade on D, and an upgrade on #2 goalie, and a#3C that actually kills penalties and wins defensive zone faceoffs.

FWs you keep for sure (based on quality & AAV)
1. Matthews
2. Marner
3. Tavares
4. Hyman
5. Moore
6. Kapanen (if AAV <3.5mln)
7. Johnsson (if AAV <2.75mln)
8. Brown
9. Ennis (if AAV<2.5mln)
10. Gauthier
11. Korshkov/ other Ruski / Petan / few other young AHL'ers
12. Marleau (nearly unmoveable contract)

I'd deal Nylander and Kadri, freeing up around 11mln - AAV that comes back in return.

#3C --> I'd like the Leafs to target Faksa (2.2mln AAV) from Dallas; Dallas might be interested in a deal around Kadri for Faksa +

Instead of Nylander - get a LW for Matthews' line.
First choice would be Keller from Arizona. (Nylander + (Brown/Johnsson) for Keller?).
Alternatively, Leafs could trade Nylander (+) for a defenseman from Carolina or Anaheim (Manson + ) ánd sign UFA Jeff Skinner for Nylander money, or Ferland for 3mln AAV.


Leafs have plenty of options - but Dubas has to take a bit of a risk instead of taking the 'secure path' of keeping some guys without really making a bold move, and keeping apparent holes on #2LW, top4 RHD and backup goalie.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Keller / Skinner / Ferland - Matthews - Kapanen
Johnsson - Faksa - Moore
Marleau - Gauthier - Ruski 1 / 2

and Leafs would free up 2.2 mln from Kadri trade, and potentially another 2.something from trading Brown (he's not even in this lineup; I'd like Leafs to keep him).

Seems straightforward to trade Nylander and Kadri to address more urgent holes in the lineup.

- MaximusAurelius


Windex clean up in Isle 4.

Holy (frank) Max.... A little early for being drunk no?
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