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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 17 @ 10:59 AM ET
This is not true!
That's what those secret rooms in the basement are for.
Jeeez.

- IonSabres

SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 3 GM's, 5 Coaches and 3 Owners it's 2019 and still picking in top 6. Las Vegas Via BUFFALO NEW YORK
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 17 @ 11:00 AM ET
I've seen some big names in the NHLon the buyout lists that TSN and Sportsnet posted, Okposo is not one of the names on any list.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 17 @ 11:02 AM ET
and if a guy does not want to sign a 8 year, 9 mil per year deal, he does not want to be here

no other team is going to offer him 72 mil

he signs a deal now, it's for the right reasons, once we get to the end of june, ranger bound

- homiedclown


Well then,
We'll just have to send our tough guy, allstar defenseman after him for those Ranger games, eh?
No, not Nelson....Wristo
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: It's totally menstrual , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
then he really doesn't want to be here, if he wants to be here, he would sign the contract
- homiedclown

What contract?
Do we know that he has been given one to sign yet?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO NY, NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 11:03 AM ET
and if a guy does not want to sign a 8 year, 9 mil per year deal, he does not want to be here

no other team is going to offer him 72 mil

he signs a deal now, it's for the right reasons, once we get to the end of june, ranger bound

- homiedclown



Your guess is as good as mine.

I would wait until the tampering period and see what is out there.

How would he know what other teams are offering him without waiting?

Why would he want to stay here again? The extra $ for the extra year?
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO NY, NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

May 17 @ 11:05 AM ET
Well then,
We'll just have to send our tough guy, allstar defenseman after him for those Ranger games, eh?
No, not Nelson....Wristo

- IonSabres



Chad ruhwedel won a cup with Pittsburgh, so its the same as Casey Nelson winning the cup.

I learned that yesterday. Also, checkmate

Powerslave
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Beyotch-trill
Joined: 02.10.2011

May 17 @ 11:07 AM ET
I don't think skinner is signing here, if he wanted to be a sabre long term he would have already made it happen

I am ready and prepared to move on


and really good teams have 2 really good centers


pens built down the middle and I think grabbing duchene is perfect to build down the middle


I think casey will do just fine as a winger on the top line and replace the points skinner put up last season, not goals but points


I also feel if they really want to get strong down the middle, sign hayes for the 3rd line and flank him with e-rod and a vet not named okposo, pommer or sobotka

- homiedclown



I'm all for building down the middle.

TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

May 17 @ 11:09 AM ET
and if a guy does not want to sign a 8 year, 9 mil per year deal, he does not want to be here

no other team is going to offer him 72 mil

he signs a deal now, it's for the right reasons, once we get to the end of june, ranger bound

- homiedclown


When did that offer get made? What we know:

Skinner scored the most goals of his career here;
We were terrible again;
Skinner is an UFA.

Other than that, nothing.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 17 @ 11:23 AM ET
Solution to the Skinner vs Duchene debate:

Olofsson - Eichel - Nylander
Mitts - Lafreniere - Reinhart
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

May 17 @ 11:26 AM ET
Solution to the Skinner vs Duchene debate:

Olofsson - Eichel - Nylander
Mitts - Lafreniere - Reinhart

- Feds91Stammer


The worst part is, if Skinner walks and we just promote from the minors, we'll have the best chance at the lottery...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
I've seen some big names in the NHLon the buyout lists that TSN and Sportsnet posted, Okposo is not one of the names on any list.
- SABRES 89

I saw that, a few interesting names
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

May 17 @ 11:28 AM ET
Not directed solely at you...

Let me get this straight,
-the Sabres scored 50 goals less than the average of the 6, 7, 8 seeds in the East
- Skinner scored 40 of them
- the postulated gap of $1m is deemed to be way too much to even consider
- 20 G Scorers are going for $4-$6m, to replace, not increase goal scoring will cost more, not less
- LW depth is Oloffson and his 8 games in NHL (I like what I saw too), Sheary who can't skate 10' without falling down...and, and ???

I fail to see the logic in letting him walk, like 40G scorer's are just lining up to play here (coaches too obviously)

- IonSabres


Here's my biggest problem. He put up a career year on an expiring contract. Sound familiar?

9M/8yrs is tough to pay for a guy who you are pretty much paying to simply score goals and paying a premium on the 40 he potted, which is great, but he also had the Eichel effect.

If that's what you want? Fine. However, you are putting money in now that can be spent in other ways.

I promise I'm not a Skinner hater but 9M is a tough pill to swallow, which is why I don't think either side has budged and also why I see Skinner in a Rags uni next year.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 17 @ 11:29 AM ET
What contract?
Do we know that he has been given one to sign yet?

- jochfr

he has had 4 year, 5 year 6 year and 8 year contracts offered to him


he is holding this up, not botts
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 17 @ 11:31 AM ET
When did that offer get made? .
- TC4145

conversation in december

offers in jan, feb, march, april and may
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 17 @ 11:32 AM ET
Here's my biggest problem. He put up a career year on an expiring contract. Sound familiar?

9M/8yrs is tough to pay for a guy who you are pretty much paying to simply score goals and paying a premium on the 40 he potted, which is great, but he also had the Eichel effect.

If that's what you want? Fine. However, you are putting money in now that can be spent in other ways.

I promise I'm not a Skinner hater but 9M is a tough pill to swallow, which is why I don't think either side has budged and also why I see Skinner in a Rags uni next year.

- Sabre_Tooth

You can't sign a bad value deal simply because of lack of internal depth. That is how you end up in DET style cap hell where you still suck.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 17 @ 11:33 AM ET
Here's my biggest problem. He put up a career year on an expiring contract. Sound familiar?

9M/8yrs is tough to pay for a guy who you are pretty much paying to simply score goals and paying a premium on the 40 he potted, which is great, but he also had the Eichel effect.

If that's what you want? Fine. However, you are putting money in now that can be spent in other ways.

I promise I'm not a Skinner hater but 9M is a tough pill to swallow, which is why I don't think either side has budged and also why I see Skinner in a Rags uni next year.

- Sabre_Tooth

tougher pill is holding that 72 mil contract out there, and he has yet to sign it

if I am offering up 72 mil, I want him to want to be here

I don't think he does
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

May 17 @ 11:35 AM ET
Here's my biggest problem. He put up a career year on an expiring contract. Sound familiar?

9M/8yrs is tough to pay for a guy who you are pretty much paying to simply score goals and paying a premium on the 40 he potted, which is great, but he also had the Eichel effect.

If that's what you want? Fine. However, you are putting money in now that can be spent in other ways.

I promise I'm not a Skinner hater but 9M is a tough pill to swallow, which is why I don't think either side has budged and also why I see Skinner in a Rags uni next year.

- Sabre_Tooth


His 5v5 production coupled with his elite scoring of game winning goals makes those 40 G a premium to try to replace.
Stafford would have many hatricks in 9-0 blowout games.
Skinner is a gamer. You dont show the door to winners.
Add more, not ship out the few
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I think we will be good, in 2037, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

May 17 @ 11:36 AM ET

Skinner is a gamer. You dont show the door to winners.

- IonSabres

I think he is showing botts the door
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 3 GM's, 5 Coaches and 3 Owners it's 2019 and still picking in top 6. Las Vegas Via BUFFALO NEW YORK
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
Solution to the Skinner vs Duchene debate:

Olofsson - Eichel - Nylander
Mitts - Lafreniere - Reinhart

- Feds91Stammer

That's one way to finish last
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

May 17 @ 11:43 AM ET
conversation in december

offers in jan, feb, march, april and may

- homiedclown


Again, were you in the room? What is it that is KNOWN? Negotiation is negotiation.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 17 @ 11:44 AM ET
Have you given up on Mitts? I think the value of a 35-40 goal guy with Eichel outweighs Duchene simply because we have a guy with 60p potential in Mittelstadt imo

Olofsson is our only hope for a high-end lw

- jcragcrumple


Or you can have 3 high end Centres that improve the play of the wingers on the team and have 3 solid lines.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

May 17 @ 11:46 AM ET
Solution to the Skinner vs Duchene debate:

Olofsson - Eichel - Nylander
Mitts - Lafreniere - Reinhart

- Feds91Stammer


Lafreniere is a winger.

Lafreniere-Eichel-who cares
Olofsson-Mitts-Reinhart.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: It's totally menstrual , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

May 17 @ 12:20 PM ET
Lafreniere is a winger.

Lafreniere-Eichel-who cares
Olofsson-Mitts-Reinhart.

- Pegullaville

Is Ott a center?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 17 @ 12:45 PM ET
Is Ott a center?
- jochfr



What were the lines for the 04/05 Sabres?
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

May 17 @ 1:01 PM ET
We have enough to get Kessel, if he would waive to come here. Just sayin
- SABRES 89


He’s already going to Arizona
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