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kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

May 16 @ 6:44 AM ET
They chose Drury and Drury stiffed them.

It was insane to choose Drury in the first place

- OneKaneOneCup


There was a serious potential medical issue regarding signing Briere and insuring that contract, which is part of what caused their hesitation.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 16 @ 7:17 AM ET
Robert Lantosi
- Powerslave


Thanks PS, that's the one.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

May 16 @ 7:21 AM ET
I was at a party tonight with Jason Botterill & Kim Pegula, among others
Didn’t see if Kruger was there or not

- jdfitz77


That's because he's in Europe.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

May 16 @ 7:22 AM ET
Thanks PS, that's the one.
- TheSabresTaco


That would be a nice signing, low risk. Fill the pipeline.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 16 @ 7:26 AM ET
Vanek has been getting 3rd line mins with pp time the past 3 yrs or so. He’s a better option than Pommer for a 3rd liner and it’ll only cost $2-2.5 mil.
- dadeadhead


Underlying numbers say that Pommer is the safer player to have trolling around your 3rd line. Vanner might get you a couple more points, but he's much more of a liability.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 16 @ 7:29 AM ET
That would be a nice signing, low risk. Fill the pipeline.
- mhp


Would be. I haven't seen the Sabres tied to him though. Just "NHL interest".
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

May 16 @ 8:06 AM ET
Barnaby said you pay Duchene all day long over Skinner.
- SABRES 89


Barnaby said Duchene is a $10M per year player and is worth more than Skinner. I think Barnaby is nuts and so is anyone who is willing to pay this number. For Duchene - what would you pay?

I do not see where a team like the Sabres commits 12% of the Cap to get him. Am I nuts?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

May 16 @ 8:14 AM ET
Barnaby said Duchene is a $10M per year player and is worth more than Skinner. I think Barnaby is nuts and so is anyone who is willing to pay this number. For Duchene - what would you pay?

I do not see where a team like the Sabres commits 12% of the Cap to get him. Am I nuts?

- TC4145

Botterill wanted him before the trade deadline but didn't think the team was in a playoff position and he also didn't want to give up assets for no reason. He's going to get close to 10 from some team, I'd like to have him but you can't have a team filled with 8-10 mill a year players and expect to stay under the cap and compete. He's a young player he will get close or some desperate team will pay, word is a turned down 8 yrs 8 mill a year from Ottawa.
mhp
Buffalo Sabres
Location: PROUD MEMBER OF RED SOX NATION SINCE 1975!!!! , SD
Joined: 01.14.2008

May 16 @ 8:29 AM ET
Would be. I haven't seen the Sabres tied to him though. Just "NHL interest".
- TheSabresTaco


I thought Homie said the other day that we are one of the teams in the mix.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 16 @ 8:29 AM ET
Barnaby said Duchene is a $10M per year player and is worth more than Skinner. I think Barnaby is nuts and so is anyone who is willing to pay this number. For Duchene - what would you pay?

I do not see where a team like the Sabres commits 12% of the Cap to get him. Am I nuts?

- TC4145


For me I would rather pay a true #2 play making center top dollars then a winger..Duchene will get large $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ so will Skinner, IMO its not the money that will hurt the Sabres with Skinner, It's term... I would give Skinner 9 for 4 maybe 5 years.. I want no part of 7-8 years with him or any player that is 26-27 all ready
OneKaneOneCup
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.21.2013

May 16 @ 8:41 AM ET
For me I would rather pay a true #2 play making center top dollars then a winger..Duchene will get large $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ so will Skinner, IMO its not the money that will hurt the Sabres with Skinner, It's term... I would give Skinner 9 for 4 maybe 5 years.. I want no part of 7-8 years with him or any player that is 26-27 all ready
- hehateme

Duchene is 28 and will get 7 years.

He also has only had 2 really good years both in contract seasons.

He’s a major red flag
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

May 16 @ 8:48 AM ET
For me I would rather pay a true #2 play making center top dollars then a winger..Duchene will get large $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ so will Skinner, IMO its not the money that will hurt the Sabres with Skinner, It's term... I would give Skinner 9 for 4 maybe 5 years.. I want no part of 7-8 years with him or any player that is 26-27 all ready
- hehateme


I agree. The center can make the two wingers better. I am not sure the one winger does that for his other line mates.

If Skinner stays, I have the feeling he will only sign for the max 8 years.
Duchene - I think he only signs for the max 7 years or 8 with Columbus.

Skinner is getting $9(?) ish until he is 35.
Duchene gets $10(?) ish until he is 35.

If that happens, with Okposo (cannot get rid of), we eat up 42% of the Cap with four players. I think it is an either or.................. And or could be none of Skinner or Duchene.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 16 @ 8:49 AM ET
05/06
Kotalik/Drury/Grier
JP/Briere/Hecht
Vanek/Connolly/Max
Pyatt/Goose/Mair
Extra winger was Peters

JP, Briere, and Connolly all went down with injuries.

Roy got called up and slipped into Connolly’s spot
Pommer got called up and stepped into JP’s
Connolly once healthy moved into Briere’s spot

That’s what I remember.

- dadeadhead


I think by the playoffs it was:

Roy Drury Grier
JP Briere Hecht
Pominville Connolly Afinogenov
Pyatt Gaustad Kotalik

Vanek was benched and/or played on the 4th line for much of the playoffs if I recall.

Once Connolly got knocked out, Roy centered Pominville and Afinogenov.

Kotalik moved up with Drury. Mair came onto the 4th line.
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

May 16 @ 8:51 AM ET
Friedman just stated that "Skinner wants to be back at a certain term and money", meaning, he wants to be paid.

He also said that he does not believe the coach matters in the decision making for his stay or go.

For what is worth.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

May 16 @ 8:58 AM ET
Duchene is 28 and will get 7 years.

He also has only had 2 really good years both in contract seasons.

He’s a major red flag

- OneKaneOneCup

Whoever signs Duchene is going to regret the contract.
buffalofan19
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Wonderful things can happen when you sow seeds of distrust in a garden full of (bum)holes
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 16 @ 8:59 AM ET
Friedman just stated that "Skinner wants to be back at a certain term and money", meaning, he wants to be paid.

He also said that he does not believe the coach matters in the decision making for his stay or go.

For what is worth.

- TC4145



I've resigned myself to the fact that Skinner is going to sign here at a term most of us are not going to like.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 16 @ 9:13 AM ET
Whoever signs Skinner is going to regret the contract.
- ImThatGuy

ftfy
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 16 @ 9:21 AM ET
It seems like term has been the issue with him

If the Sabres go a full 8 years he has to realize he isn't going to get $8 million per

There is still room to increase his and both Karlsson's contracts (plus Connolly if needed) to fit them all.

But the key really is moving Okposo

I'd like to save some cap space because Reinhart and then Dahlin are coming up due which will be large raises

- Stripes77

Trade pick 30/31 with Okposo for a 4th. Idc, get rid of him.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

May 16 @ 10:14 AM ET
Wpg sun fan survey:

"Moving to the players, Josh Morrissey gets the closest to unanimous support (98%), with backup goalie Laurent Brossoit not far behind (95%).

At the other end of the spectrum, fans have seen enough of defenceman Dmitry Kulikov, 97% of them hoping he never pulls a Jets sweater over his head again.

More surprising, perhaps, is that people have had enough of Jacob Trouba’s halfhearted commitment to the franchise.

A full 75% want Trouba shipped out, suggesting Cheveldayoff swing a deal at this summer’s NHL Draft rather than have Trouba go into the final year of his contract.

And to think 89% tagged Trouba as untouchable just two years ago."


I would do 7oa for Trouba, or Risto and a second. Tough to believe they'd get a better offer
TC4145
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.03.2019

May 16 @ 10:21 AM ET
In the world of how do we make this happen:

We have the Night King, now let's make it feel like Winter is Coming to the teams that have to play in Buffalo. Game of Throne mood music and a slow build to the conquering!

Cheesy - heck yeah!
Better than the crap and nonsense that keeps people in their seats and does nothing to kick off the games - for example, the Jumbotron production where the players start with their faces down and slowly pan up to look at the camera. Who comes up with this crud?
washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 16 @ 10:25 AM ET
In the world of how do we make this happen:

We have the Night King, now let's make it feel like Winter is Coming to the teams that have to play in Buffalo. Game of Throne mood music and a slow build to the conquering!

Cheesy - heck yeah!
Better than the crap and nonsense that keeps people in their seats and does nothing to kick off the games - for example, the Jumbotron production where the players start with their faces down and slowly pan up to look at the camera. Who comes up with this crud?

- TC4145





washedup20
Location: the little apple
Joined: 08.19.2014

May 16 @ 10:29 AM ET
In the world of how do we make this happen:

We have the Night King, now let's make it feel like Winter is Coming to the teams that have to play in Buffalo. Game of Throne mood music and a slow build to the conquering!

Cheesy - heck yeah!
Better than the crap and nonsense that keeps people in their seats and does nothing to kick off the games - for example, the Jumbotron production where the players start with their faces down and slowly pan up to look at the camera. Who comes up with this crud?

- TC4145


Homie he teed it up for you:


dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

May 16 @ 10:31 AM ET
I think by the playoffs it was:

Roy Drury Grier
JP Briere Hecht
Pominville Connolly Afinogenov
Pyatt Gaustad Kotalik

Vanek was benched and/or played on the 4th line for much of the playoffs if I recall.

Once Connolly got knocked out, Roy centered Pominville and Afinogenov.

Kotalik moved up with Drury. Mair came onto the 4th line.

- buffalofan19



That is also correct if memory serves me.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

May 16 @ 10:36 AM ET
Duchene is 28 and will get 7 years.

He also has only had 2 really good years both in contract seasons.

He’s a major red flag

- OneKaneOneCup


I agree, I want no part of Duchene at 10 mil. Its just my opinion that if you are going to pay someone 10 large, it better be a center and a good play making center at that. Paying a winger 10 Mill is STUPID unless its OV...


BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

May 16 @ 10:38 AM ET
I agree, I want no part of Duchene at 10 mil. Its just my opinion that if you are going to pay someone 10 large, it better be a center and a good play making center at that. Paying a winger 10 Mill is STUPID unless its OV...
- hehateme


Duchene is a center...


BUT he's pretty inconsistent, and you should likely only expect 65 ish points per year from him.

He's in Jeff Skinner territory, IMO.
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