Strome and Cat aren't UFA's for awhile. They havent even reached 1st year RFA What will the cap be when the hit UFA?
- PatShart

Offer sheets are for RFA's not UFA's, Strome and D-Cat are RFA's after the 20,21 season.

Offer sheets are for RFA's not UFA's, Strome and D-Cat are RFA's after the 20,21 season.
- LAHawk

Correct. So why worry about "saving money" when they arent even RFA's yet let alone UFA?

If someone wants to hand them 7-8mil bucks to an offer sheet a year from now, let them and enjoy the draft picks

I think my point is not understood or not shared by others ... slowly backing away and feeling shame for making the comment.
- EbonyRaptor

It is understood!! But it is still England. Hard to play all out especially when we know Kane doesn't like to play D unless the games really count.

I have a question: What's up with extending offers to RFA's? It's rarely even talked about as an option.

I've been reading some articles lately about possible moves during the off-season, and the players on D being discussed are either going all in on Erik Karlsson or signing guys like Edler, Stralman or Jordie Benn which is fine if you can get them on a 2 (maybe 3) year deal to bridge the gap to the prospects coming up.

But if they won't sign for anything less than 4 years, why not just go big on Jacob Trouba? I'd rather have someone like Trouba on a 6-7 year contract at 25 years old than Karlsson at 29 or a 32-33 year old on a 4 year deal.

There seems to be a taboo around offer sheeting someone else's RFA. Is it bad form? Do teams shy away from it because they don't want other teams doing it to them? Do they not want to give up the draft pick compensation?

There are a good amount of RFAs that seem to profile as top 4 defensemen this off season that would fit really well (to varying degrees) with the "make over on the fly" the Hawks are going through right now. Trouba, Ryan Murray, Zach Werenski, Nathan Beaulieu, etc.

Help me understand why additions like these don't even get discussed.

Thanks!
- 4_in_7

They don't get used because you would have to offer a crazy salary for the team who owns their rights not to match on top of paying the kings ransom in draft picks. You are then essentially stuck with a guy making too much cash and you hamstring your future depth pool.

Its a dumb system that nobody uses because it is too penal. The press loves to pull it out of mothballs around this time of year to get fanbases worried about losing their players.

I really don't think the Hawks should trade this pick.


You take Turcotte or Cozen if you think either one can be a legit #1 NHL Center. That person replaces Toews in 3-4 years as the #1 Center. I don't worry about Kane being Kane in 3-4 years. The Hawks have spent a lot of draft capital on D the last few years. This may be their only shot at getting a legit top end center. I still think dominating the ice up the middle is the way to go in today's NHL.

If the Hawks don't think at least 2 of Joki, Beaudin, Boquivst, or Mitchell can be top 4 D-men then those are wasted draft picks already and the front office should be fired.

If the Hawks don't think there is legit potential one of those 2 can be a #1 NHL pivot then you strongly consider taking Bryam if you think he will be a true top pairing guy and is best player available at #3.

They don't get used because you would have to offer a crazy salary for the team who owns their rights not to match on top of paying the kings ransom in draft picks. You are then essentially stuck with a guy making too much cash and you hamstring your future depth pool.

Its a dumb system that nobody uses because it is too penal. The press loves to pull it out of mothballs around this time of year to get fanbases worried about losing their players.
- BlackhawkDown

Thanks for answering.

Correct. So why worry about "saving money" when they arent even RFA's yet let alone UFA?

If someone wants to hand them 7-8mil bucks to an offer sheet a year from now, let them and enjoy the draft picks
- PatShart

Well that is part of the problem, at $8mil., you need 2 firsts, a second, and a third, which as a GM I would never want to give up the picks. Reason why Marner will never get an offer sheet, will cost 4 first round draft picks

Red font? Not Cole Caufield?

- resqmed99

Trade #3 to the Canucks so they can draft J Hughes. In return get Pettersson and the Canucks pick which is used to draft Caufield.

The pick has to be Byram. He reminds me so much of a young Duncan Keith in the way he glides around the ice. He’s touted as a future 1D, and even though the Hawks have drafted several other high prospect dmen over the last two years, none of them project to be a 1D.

As for Turcotte, I saw him and the USDT play in Madison this past January, and I really liked his play. He was in the center of everything, both offensively and defensively, and won a majority of faceoffs. He was also on the top PK unit (second PP unit because of Hughes and Zegras). If the Hawks didn’t acquire Strome, I’d love this to be their pick.

The pick has to be Byram. He reminds me so much of a young Duncan Keith in the way he glides around the ice. He’s touted as a future 1D, and even though the Hawks have drafted several other high prospect dmen over the last two years, none of them project to be a 1D.

As for Turcotte, I saw him and the USDT play in Madison this past January, and I really liked his play. He was in the center of everything, both offensively and defensively, and won a majority of faceoffs. He was also on the top PK unit (second PP unit because of Hughes and Zegras). If the Hawks didn’t acquire Strome, I’d love this to be their pick.
- hawks2010

If the Hawks don't draft Caufield then I agree.

I really don't think the Hawks should trade this pick.


You take Turcotte or Cozen if you think either one can be a legit #1 NHL Center. That person replaces Toews in 3-4 years as the #1 Center. I don't worry about Kane being Kane in 3-4 years. The Hawks have spent a lot of draft capital on D the last few years. This may be their only shot at getting a legit top end center. I still think dominating the ice up the middle is the way to go in today's NHL.

If the Hawks don't think at least 2 of Joki, Beaudin, Boquivst, or Mitchell can be top 4 D-men then those are wasted draft picks already and the front office should be fired.

If the Hawks don't think there is legit potential one of those 2 can be a #1 NHL pivot then you strongly consider taking Bryam if you think he will be a true top pairing guy and is best player available at #3.
- bhawks2241

Agree totally with this. This is a great chance to nab a legit #1 C in this draft. I was in the get Byram camp for a while, but with Joki, Boqvist, Beaudin and Mitchell in the pipeline? Lets go get a C.

Would a trade for #3 for #8 and something enthuse any of you? What would you require that plus be? I've seen mention of a Dman; what level of Dman?
- MaximumBone

Darnell Nurse and #8 for #3 has me listening.

It is understood!! But it is still England. Hard to play all out especially when we know Kane doesn't like to play D unless the games really count.
- bhawks2241

Then he shouldn't be captain. Maybe others think of the captaincy as a kind of honorarium that the elder statesman gets - but I still think it's supposed to mean a guy that will lead by example - whether it's a "meaningless game" or not.

If Hughes is available at #3 the Hawks should draft him, but I would export the option of exploiting the Canucks in a trade.
- DarthKane

say Vancouver does call and hughes does fall to 3 what the hawks want back besides petterson because Vancouver is not trading him?

say Vancouver does call and hughes does fall to 3 what the hawks want back besides petterson because Vancouver is not trading him?
- Scott1977

Boeser and their first

Darnell Nurse and #8 for #3 has me listening.
- EbonyRaptor

ABSOLUTELY !! Nurse and them Caufield if he's still there at 8.

I really don't think the Hawks should trade this pick.


You take Turcotte or Cozen if you think either one can be a legit #1 NHL Center. That person replaces Toews in 3-4 years as the #1 Center. I don't worry about Kane being Kane in 3-4 years. The Hawks have spent a lot of draft capital on D the last few years. This may be their only shot at getting a legit top end center. I still think dominating the ice up the middle is the way to go in today's NHL.

If the Hawks don't think at least 2 of Joki, Beaudin, Boquivst, or Mitchell can be top 4 D-men then those are wasted draft picks already and the front office should be fired.

If the Hawks don't think there is legit potential one of those 2 can be a #1 NHL pivot then you strongly consider taking Bryam if you think he will be a true top pairing guy and is best player available at #3.
- bhawks2241

Respectfully disagree. This is the BEST time to trade back if the top 2 are gone as expected. You build for the future if you're getting 2 quality pieces. A solid Dman and a high end forward or Center prospect makes you better overall. However, I do love Kakko.......IF !!

Boeser and their first
- DarthKane

Bo Horvat and a first

Then he shouldn't be captain. Maybe others think of the captaincy as a kind of honorarium that the elder statesman gets - but I still think it's supposed to mean a guy that will lead by example - whether it's a "meaningless game" or not.
- EbonyRaptor

Valid point...especially if other older guys weren't coasting that game.

So Byram or Turcotte or Cozens or trade back. ...Or Caulfield. Got it!

So Byram or Turcotte or Cozens or trade back. ...Or Caulfield. Got it!
- 4_in_7

No... just Caufield.

Respectfully disagree. This is the BEST time to trade back if the top 2 are gone as expected. You build for the future if you're getting 2 quality pieces. A solid Dman and a high end forward or Center prospect makes you better overall. However, I do love Kakko.......IF !!
- Hawkytalk

Sure if someone is offering up a high pick and a lower 1st round pick to move up a few spots.. then you consider it but I don't see that happening.

But why trade down if the Hawks think Turcotte or Cozen project as #1 centers? Or they think Bryam is going to be a legit #1.

The Hawks have a lot of "quality" pieces in the system. They need top end talent to replace the aging top end talent. The Hawks might not pick in the top 5 again for several years. If the Hawks think their is top end talent available at 3 then they should make that pick without a doubt.

Boeser and their first
- DarthKane

Hovart and their 1st and 3rd maybe

No... just Caufield.
- DarthKane

Are you sure you’re not JD Salinger.

Are you sure you’re not JD Salinger.
- StLBravesFan

Close, there is an "l" in that spelling.