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Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 15 @ 4:19 PM ET
i keep reading reports that the clinical trials are going unbelievably good and the results have been very promising. Mass producing it will be the next hurdle. I honestly can't wait to get the vaccine.
- Codes1087

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 15 @ 11:14 PM ET
i keep reading reports that the clinical trials are going unbelievably good and the results have been very promising. Mass producing it will be the next hurdle. I honestly can't wait to get the vaccine.
- Codes1087


Except that if it’s China, or the US or the UK that reach the goal line first they will monetize the cure.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 16 @ 12:18 AM ET
Except that if it’s China, or the US or the UK that reach the goal line first they will monetize the cure.
- 1970vintage


Speculation.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jul 16 @ 2:13 AM ET
Except that if it’s China, or the US or the UK that reach the goal line first they will monetize the cure.
- 1970vintage

That wouldn’t sit well, a global pandemic should be eradicated by a global cure.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jul 16 @ 3:26 AM ET
That wouldn’t sit well, a global pandemic should be eradicated by a global cure.
- Makita


Should be, but every nation insists on working independently.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 10:54 AM ET
i keep reading reports that the clinical trials are going unbelievably good and the results have been very promising. Mass producing it will be the next hurdle. I honestly can't wait to get the vaccine.
- Codes1087

i've read the same things and have been very optimistic.

...until yesterday when i saw that the virus has been mutating at a very fast rate. that means, that even if there is a vaccine, it could be of the influenza variety meaning it's helpful but it's not a silver bullet.

add in factors of availability and people actually accepting it (thanks anti-vaxxers!), and it seems that we're still far from daylight.

so how's that for a cheery way of saying 'good morning.'
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 10:57 AM ET
That wouldn’t sit well, a global pandemic should be eradicated by a global cure.
- Makita

whichever company makes it will definitely make a nice profit (like the industry already isn't) but it won't be cost prohibitive in my opinion.

the real issue will be availability. which company produces the vaccine first and more importantly which country the company is associated with will be more important than cost.

when billions of doses are needed, where is your country or province or city in the queue to get shipment?
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 11:48 AM ET
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/n...virus-vaccine-development

RUSSIAN cyber actors are targeting organisations involved in coronavirus vaccine development, UK security officials have revealed.
....
Known targets of APT29 include UK, US and Canadian vaccine research and development organisations. The group uses a variety of tools and techniques, including spear-phishing and custom malware known as “WellMess” and “WellMail”.

(anxiously waits for booner to tell us that it's fake news because it's all one conspiracy against russia.)
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 12:03 PM ET
https://www.ncsc.gov.uk/news/uk-and-allies-expose-russian-attacks-on-coronavirus-vaccine-development

RUSSIAN cyber actors are targeting organisations involved in coronavirus vaccine development, UK security officials have revealed.
....
Known targets of APT29 include UK, US and Canadian vaccine research and development organisations. The group uses a variety of tools and techniques, including spear-phishing and custom malware known as “WellMess” and “WellMail”.

(anxiously waits for booner to tell us that it's fake news because it's all one conspiracy against russia.)

- RealityChecker

On a different note but similar note kaptaan is spreading his conspiracy theories and racism in the Leaf's thread. They are so lucky to have him.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 12:16 PM ET
On a different note but similar note kaptaan is spreading his conspiracy theories and racism in the Leaf's thread. They are so lucky to have him.
- Marwood

it's the best way to keep canuck fans out of the leafs thread.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 16 @ 12:18 PM ET
On a different note but similar note kaptaan is spreading his conspiracy theories and racism in the Leaf's thread. They are so lucky to have him.
- Marwood


I think kaptaan was always a leaf troll only in our thread to disrupt.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 12:43 PM ET
it's the best way to keep canuck fans out of the leafs thread.
- RealityChecker

I was an observer but yes, it appears to be effective.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 12:44 PM ET
I think kaptaan was always a troll only in our thread to disrupt.
- bloatedmosquito

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 16 @ 8:09 PM ET
One-third of children who have been tested for the coronavirus in Florida have tested positive, according to data from the state’s Department of Health.

Of the 54,022 people under the age of 18 who have been tested for COVID, 16,797 of them (roughly 31%) have tested positive.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 16 @ 8:35 PM ET
One-third of children who have been tested for the coronavirus in Florida have tested positive, according to data from the state’s Department of Health.

Of the 54,022 people under the age of 18 who have been tested for COVID, 16,797 of them (roughly 31%) have tested positive.

- bloatedmosquito


It's a failure by leadership of epic proportions.

It's crazy to think that the wealthiest (debatable) country in the world is nearly doubling any other country in damage at this point.

Now, i'll concede that the ease of transportation has accelerated the spread vs other countries. They'll still likely be top 5-10 in casualties once the dust settles.

All the man had to do was listen to his advisors.

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 8:35 PM ET
One-third of children who have been tested for the coronavirus in Florida have tested positive, according to data from the state’s Department of Health.

Of the 54,022 people under the age of 18 who have been tested for COVID, 16,797 of them (roughly 31%) have tested positive.

- bloatedmosquito

The numbers are rising among young people here as well. The under 40 rates are going up with a bullet.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 8:37 PM ET
It's a failure by leadership of epic proportions.

It's crazy to think that the wealthiest (debatable) country in the world is nearly doubling any other country in damage at this point.

Now, i'll concede that the ease of transportation has accelerated the spread vs other countries. They'll still likely be top 5-10 in casualties once the dust settles.

All the man had to do was listen to his advisors.

- golfingsince


Sorry, this man takes advice from no one.
I don't know, maybe he has someone read the sesame seeds left in his Big Mac container.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:04 PM ET
It's a failure by leadership of epic proportions.

It's crazy to think that the wealthiest (debatable) country in the world is nearly doubling any other country in damage at this point.

Now, i'll concede that the ease of transportation has accelerated the spread vs other countries. They'll still likely be top 5-10 in casualties once the dust settles.

All the man had to do was listen to his advisors.

- golfingsince


For the life of me I can’t understand how it happened. I mean, can Trump have that much influence over common sense?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:05 PM ET
The numbers are rising among young people here as well. The under 40 rates are going up with a bullet.
- Marwood


Yeah, I read about that. Also mentioned the virus mutating. I hope we won’t be chasing our tails for years trying to contain this thing.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:49 PM ET
For the life of me I can’t understand how it happened. I mean, can Trump have that much influence over common sense?
- bloatedmosquito


I still can't even believed how Trump ever happened. WTF were you thinking America?
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:54 PM ET
For the life of me I can’t understand how it happened. I mean, can Trump have that much influence over common sense?
- bloatedmosquito

That isn't already clear?
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 16 @ 9:54 PM ET
Yeah, I read about that. Also mentioned the virus mutating. I hope we won’t be chasing our tails for years trying to contain this thing.
- bloatedmosquito


I've been thinking about this for awhile. They will launch a vaccine and eventually updates will be included in the seasonal flu shot. However, seasonal flu numbers will rise and the next pandemic will be compared to it.

The planet is telling us something.

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 9:59 PM ET
I still can't even believed how Trump ever happened. WTF were you thinking America?
- golfingsince

Whenever I think that, I go back to the South Park episode of the douche vs the turd. It was dark but honest in a South Park way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au8oNaVHUHw
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jul 16 @ 10:00 PM ET
I've been thinking about this for awhile. They will launch a vaccine and eventually updates will be included in the seasonal flu shot. However, seasonal flu numbers will rise and the next pandemic will be compared to it.

The planet is telling us something.

- golfingsince

golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jul 16 @ 10:43 PM ET
Whenever I think that, I go back to the South Park episode of the douche vs the turd. It was dark but honest in a South Park way.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au8oNaVHUHw

- Marwood

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