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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 7 @ 11:16 AM ET
And there it is...

Trump “has a small personal financial interest” in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine, The New York Times reported Monday.


- bloatedmosquito

A little shameless plugging for personal gain is the American way, I see nothing wrong here
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 11:32 AM ET
And there it is...

Trump “has a small personal financial interest” in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine, The New York Times reported Monday.


- bloatedmosquito

It's as if Don King and Paris Hilton had a baby who grew up to be president:
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 7 @ 12:37 PM ET
A little shameless plugging for personal gain is the American way, I see nothing wrong here
- LeftCoaster


Your trolling is strong these days. I’m envious because I’ve lost my mojo.

I read that Bernie supporters are so fanatical and butt-hurt about the democratic establishment, they too will be voting Trump just to punish America.

You can’t make this stuff up. Calamity at its finest.

bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 7 @ 12:43 PM ET
It's as if Don King and Paris Hilton had a baby who grew up to be president

- RealityChecker


These are the American heroes; Trump, King, Paris. Think about it. Does character mean anything in that culture? It used to mean something. Not anymore.

Money, money, money. If you’re rich (no matter how it was obtained) you’re idolized.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 7 @ 3:35 PM ET
Your trolling is strong these days. I’m envious because I’ve lost my mojo.

I read that Bernie supporters are so fanatical and butt-hurt about the democratic establishment, they too will be voting Trump just to punish America.

You can’t make this stuff up. Calamity at its finest.

- bloatedmosquito

exit polls in 2016 showed a significant number of trump voters who said that bernie was their second choice.

there's a significant part of the american populace who just feel "left out." left out of the economic advances, left out of politics, left out of mainstream culture, left out of the "msm."

bernie offers them a radical way out. trump offers them someone or something to blame for their problems. and for a lot of them either or both just give them an emotional vent irrespective of the policies. for a lot they couldn't explain the policy except for "he knows what's wrong and he can fix it." so they're just looking for extreme choices because they think either or both can change the entire "system."

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 8 @ 1:18 PM ET
Your trolling is strong these days. I’m envious because I’ve lost my mojo.

I read that Bernie supporters are so fanatical and butt-hurt about the democratic establishment, they too will be voting Trump just to punish America.

You can’t make this stuff up. Calamity at its finest.

- bloatedmosquito

It’s the best reality show ever
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 8 @ 1:31 PM ET
exit polls in 2016 showed a significant number of trump voters who said that bernie was their second choice.

there's a significant part of the american populace who just feel "left out." left out of the economic advances, left out of politics, left out of mainstream culture, left out of the "msm."

bernie offers them a radical way out. trump offers them someone or something to blame for their problems. and for a lot of them either or both just give them an emotional vent irrespective of the policies. for a lot they couldn't explain the policy except for "he knows what's wrong and he can fix it." so they're just looking for extreme choices because they think either or both can change the entire "system."

- RealityChecker


I get in that people want change. They’re tired of mainstream politics. But to choose Trump as the person to lead positive change makes no sense to me. Instead of draining the swamp, he’s made it even bigger.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 8 @ 1:34 PM ET
It’s the best reality show ever
- LeftCoaster


I agree Lefty, but it’s permeated everything. I can’t get away from it other than choosing ignorance as a lifestyle. Sick of hearing about it. One of the many reasons I’m glad I don’t live in the US is that I don’t have to see those Trump 2020 signs.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 8 @ 2:00 PM ET
I agree Lefty, but it’s permeated everything. I can’t get away from it other than choosing ignorance as a lifestyle. Sick of hearing about it. One of the many reasons I’m glad I don’t live in the US is that I don’t have to see those Trump 2020 signs.
- bloatedmosquito

I know I’m in the minority here, but, I love it down there! Everyday life is just what it is here, I personally don’t feel any different down there except for a few minor details which amount to nothing. Well the weather is extremely different, the one very major reason we love Arizona, I fukin detest Canadian weather.

Political theatrics aren’t as prevalent as some on here would have you believe, not you personally, it’s a product of social media more so that anything, which isn’t out there as part of your everyday life.

I’m not downplaying the current stupidity of the present administration, it’s on the news daily down there, I’m just saying during your everyday activities it’s not spoken about as the first and only choice of topic.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 8 @ 2:47 PM ET
I know I’m in the minority here, but, I love it down there! Everyday life is just what it is here, I personally don’t feel any different down there except for a few minor details which amount to nothing. Well the weather is extremely different, the one very major reason we love Arizona, I fukin detest Canadian weather.

Political theatrics aren’t as prevalent as some on here would have you believe, not you personally, it’s a product of social media more so that anything, which isn’t out there as part of your everyday life.

I’m not downplaying the current stupidity of the present administration, it’s on the news daily down there, I’m just saying during your everyday activities it’s not spoken about as the first and only choice of topic.

- LeftCoaster


I went on a 10 day cruise last Sept., had the full meal deal package, could go to any bar or restaurant, and i did multiple times. In these settings you talk to people from all over the world, but every american I meet had to let me know whether they were a Trump supporter or not. It was comical, my wife and I got to the point of stringing them along and chuckled for hours afterwards at their un-moveable positions.

I really enjoyed that trip, wanted to get all the americans at one table just to watch the shit storm start to brew.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 8 @ 3:19 PM ET
I went on a 10 day cruise last Sept., had the full meal deal package, could go to any bar or restaurant, and i did multiple times. In these settings you talk to people from all over the world, but every american I meet had to let me know whether they were a Trump supporter or not. It was comical, my wife and I got to the point of stringing them along and chuckled for hours afterwards at their un-moveable positions.

I really enjoyed that trip, wanted to get all the americans at one table just to watch the shit storm start to brew.

- Makita


This is my experience too.

Roughly four years ago (Dec 2015), the family was down in Carlsbad at the Hilton (Legoland) and did one of those timeshare presentations to get a bunch of freebees. Anyway, the presenter spent the whole time talking about his love of Trump. On and on about it. The wife and I were baffled. At that point we felt that Hilary was in trouble.

Subsequent trips were no different. Didn't matter the State. Trump talk everywhere. As visitors, we just smiled and nodded politely and GTFO.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 8 @ 3:49 PM ET
Ontario reported 550 new COVID-19 cases Wednesday, the biggest single-day increase so far.

Jesus Christ, they be in trouble which essentially means we all are in trouble.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 8 @ 5:00 PM ET
I went on a 10 day cruise last Sept., had the full meal deal package, could go to any bar or restaurant, and i did multiple times. In these settings you talk to people from all over the world, but every american I meet had to let me know whether they were a Trump supporter or not. It was comical, my wife and I got to the point of stringing them along and chuckled for hours afterwards at their un-moveable positions.

I really enjoyed that trip, wanted to get all the americans at one table just to watch the shit storm start to brew.

- Makita

I could see that, I’m guessing our experiences are different because we live there, our neighbours know us and our circle of friends know us. I’m not in a new situation where I’m meeting dozens of new Americans daily.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 9 @ 12:32 AM ET
Ontario reported 550 new COVID-19 cases Wednesday, the biggest single-day increase so far.

Jesus Christ, they be in trouble which essentially means we all are in trouble.

- bloatedmosquito


I'm telling you he let things carry on too close to normal for too long. Thankfully most of the people I know were ahead of it.

There's an awful lot to pay for in Ontario as a province, they wanted the tax revenue.


They still allowed gatherings of up to 50 people until not long ago, the original list of essential services was ridiculous. When legal Cannabis first launched in Ontario it was ALL on-line, yet they kept the fledgeling stores open. Even now at some of the mines they still have work camps with 100's of people flying in and flying out without testing.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
And there it is...

Trump “has a small personal financial interest” in Sanofi, the French drugmaker that makes Plaquenil, the brand-name version of hydroxychloroquine, The New York Times reported Monday.


- bloatedmosquito

ok, so... you believe the NY times? they have had people literally fired for making up news... they are literally pushing #fakenews
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
Your trolling is strong these days. I’m envious because I’ve lost my mojo.

I read that Bernie supporters are so fanatical and butt-hurt about the democratic establishment, they too will be voting Trump just to punish America.

You can’t make this stuff up. Calamity at its finest.

- bloatedmosquito

Bernie supporters voted Trump last time as well... if i recall 10- 25% of them...
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 11 @ 3:04 PM ET
ok, so... you believe the NY times? they have had people literally fired for making up news... they are literally pushing #fakenews
- kaptaan


If you take a look at the article it’s investigative, not an opinion piece.

No need to be suspicious about facts. I’m talk fact facts, not alternate facts.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 11 @ 3:07 PM ET
Bernie supporters voted Trump last time as well... if i recall 10- 25% of them...
- kaptaan


I know, but the problem for Trump is that he won’t be running against a Clinton this time. Americans won’t be so complacent this time around. All signs point to American voters choosing calm over chaos.

We shall see.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 11 @ 7:14 PM ET
I know, but the problem for Trump is that he won’t be running against a Clinton this time. Americans won’t be so complacent this time around. All signs point to American voters choosing calm over chaos.

We shall see.

- bloatedmosquito

i think more american independents are pissed off about the Dems sham impeachment, shame supreme court sex assault smears and essentially trial, sham russia gate than anything else.

They cant win just saying, im not Trump. they actually have to have a platform. which they dont. not sure if you watch anything on the youtube by jimmy dore. hes a progressive liberal. take a look it might be elightening. trump might have a bigger landslide this time around than last time.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:04 AM ET
ok, so... you believe the NY times? they have had people literally fired for making up news... they are literally pushing #fakenews
- kaptaan

It's actually the most credible news source in America, but that's ok.

Maybe you should just find us more conspiracy theories.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Apr 12 @ 12:09 PM ET
i think more american independents are pissed off about the Dems sham impeachment, shame supreme court sex assault smears and essentially trial, sham russia gate than anything else.

They cant win just saying, im not Trump. they actually have to have a platform. which they dont. not sure if you watch anything on the youtube by jimmy dore. hes a progressive liberal. take a look it might be elightening. trump might have a bigger landslide this time around than last time.

- kaptaan


What? While Trump has been president, the republicans have lost pretty much every election at every level to democrats. Even the reddest of states have gone democratic like Kentucky and Virginia.

The senate is the only legislative body that’s been the republican bright spot and even that is in danger. In swing and battleground states where “independent” voters outnumber partisan voters republicans are polling poorly. Long time incumbent Republicans are retiring at an alarming rate with no strong candidates to replace. It ain’t looking good.

I’m not saying Trump is going to lose, but if he doesn’t have a strong Republican Party to support him, he will be a lame duck president. If he’s had trouble enacting his policies with one time majorities in both senate and house, how the hell is he going to get things done with Democrats ruling all three levels of government?

As I said, it ain’t looking good for you people.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 12 @ 3:29 PM ET
What? While Trump has been president, the republicans have lost pretty much every election at every level to democrats. Even the reddest of states have gone democratic like Kentucky and Virginia.

The senate is the only legislative body that’s been the republican bright spot and even that is in danger. In swing and battleground states where “independent” voters outnumber partisan voters republicans are polling poorly. Long time incumbent Republicans are retiring at an alarming rate with no strong candidates to replace. It ain’t looking good.

I’m not saying Trump is going to lose, but if he doesn’t have a strong Republican Party to support him, he will be a lame duck president. If he’s had trouble enacting his policies with one time majorities in both senate and house, how the hell is he going to get things done with Democrats ruling all three levels of government?

As I said, it ain’t looking good for you people.

- bloatedmosquito

kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 12 @ 9:54 PM ET
What? While Trump has been president, the republicans have lost pretty much every election at every level to democrats. Even the reddest of states have gone democratic like Kentucky and Virginia.

The senate is the only legislative body that’s been the republican bright spot and even that is in danger. In swing and battleground states where “independent” voters outnumber partisan voters republicans are polling poorly. Long time incumbent Republicans are retiring at an alarming rate with no strong candidates to replace. It ain’t looking good.

I’m not saying Trump is going to lose, but if he doesn’t have a strong Republican Party to support him, he will be a lame duck president. If he’s had trouble enacting his policies with one time majorities in both senate and house, how the hell is he going to get things done with Democrats ruling all three levels of government?

As I said, it ain’t looking good for you people.

- bloatedmosquito


Let's see what happens.
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 13 @ 6:36 AM ET
It's actually the most credible news source in America, but that's ok.

Maybe you should just find us more conspiracy theories.

- golfingsince

Read this.

Occasional cortex and her gang don't plan on endorsing Biden.

But they aren't the only ones. Biden is a warmongering neo con. Neo liberal. At this point those two have the same agenda. They both support the MIC.

Trump has more in common with the socialists than Biden. People who think Trump is a neo con are woefully mistaken. The guy is a populist with policies that are informed by supporting American workers. That's his whole focus.

https://www.thegatewaypun...-not-endorsing-joe-biden/
kaptaan
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Turning a new Leaf, CA
Joined: 09.29.2010

Apr 13 @ 6:46 AM ET
It's actually the most credible news source in America, but that's ok.

Maybe you should just find us more conspiracy theories.

- golfingsince

Why would you think the NYT is credible in any sense? They literally apologized to readers for misleading them all, over their pre election coverage, right on up to the election.

Here's another example of their ridiculous coverage. They are, along with CNN and WAPO, the fake news.

https://www.breitbart.com...gh-covered-for-joe-biden/
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