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JKSoule
Joined: 04.22.2015

May 13 @ 1:46 PM ET
Every year the next guy is “generational”.. that term is used WAY to loosely these days.. generational should be reserved for guys that come into the league and are immediately the best player in the world! McDavid, Crosby, Ovechkin, Lindros, Lemieux..

Matthews is not generational.. Neither was Mckinon.. both are stars and likely superstars but not generational!

- JKSoule


Oh and I’ve watched Hughes play.. in a better year, he wouldn’t even be the first pick.. he’s really really good, but Mitch Marner looked better than him in his draft year and Marner went 4th! This guy isn’t even as good as Laine or Echiel..
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
Doesn't matter. DET is getting the Russian kid at 6.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Yzerplan time, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
Oh and I’ve watched Hughes play.. in a better year, he wouldn’t even be the first pick.. he’s really really good, but Mitch Marner looked better than him in his draft year and Marner went 4th! This guy isn’t even as good as Laine or Echiel..
- JKSoule

Based on what?
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

May 13 @ 1:48 PM ET
You never know with kids tho.

Kreider can get a first at the deadline but can’t move up 12 spots? You know he’d get a first at the deadline.

I can imagine McDavid and Kreider lighting it up for Edmonton

- Slimtj100

A late first at the deadline, yes. Not a top-10 first though. Kreider would be an amazing winger playing with McDavid, but Edmonton (as of now) couldn't afford to keep him past 2020.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Inside Dundee’s wifey
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 13 @ 1:50 PM ET
A late first at the deadline, yes. Not a top-10 first though. Kreider would be an amazing winger playing with McDavid, but Edmonton (as of now) couldn't afford to keep him past 2020.
- Harambe

Ok then forget it

What are the odds someone at 8 is better then someone at 20? 2-3%? It’s not 1 to 20
mdw7413
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: You're exactly the problem with trying to have a conversation on here. - Tanner
Joined: 12.13.2013

May 13 @ 1:53 PM ET
Whatever dude. Stop following me
- Slimtj100

Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

May 13 @ 1:57 PM ET
Ok then forget it

What are the odds someone at 8 is better then someone at 20? 2-3%? It’s not 1 to 20

- Slimtj100

I would say there's a sizable gap in the odds of getting a player at 8 vs 20, in terms of how likely the player is to a) make it to the NHL and b) be a valuable skill player

I mean, I asked about the Rangers trading back two spots and still picking inside the top 5 and got a resounding no (which, to be clear, was the right answer and the same answer I'd have given)

A player like Kakko obviously won't be available at 8, but there will be plenty of talent on the board and nobody at 20 is expected to have the same kind of ceiling.
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Trump is your president for six more years, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 13 @ 2:01 PM ET
It just kills me that these two will be in the metro division for the foreseeable future.


Oh, and in no way is either of them a generational player.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Inside Dundee’s wifey
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
It just kills me that these two will be in the metro division for the foreseeable future.
- MBFlyerfan

So sorry
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Trump is your president for six more years, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 13 @ 2:03 PM ET
So sorry
- Slimtj100



Surrre you are....
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Inside Dundee’s wifey
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 13 @ 2:05 PM ET
Surrre you are....

- MBFlyerfan



You got your Nolan Patrick. It’s someone else’s turn! Weeeeeee
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Trump is your president for six more years, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 13 @ 2:07 PM ET


You got your Nolan Patrick. It’s someone else’s turn! Weeeeeee

- Slimtj100




True, we cant all be bottom feeding perennial lottery picks like the Devils or the Oilers.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Inside Dundee’s wifey
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
I would say there's a sizable gap in the odds of getting a player at 8 vs 20, in terms of how likely the player is to a) make it to the NHL and b) be a valuable skill player

I mean, I asked about the Rangers trading back two spots and still picking inside the top 5 and got a resounding no (which, to be clear, was the right answer and the same answer I'd have given)

A player like Kakko obviously won't be available at 8, but there will be plenty of talent on the board and nobody at 20 is expected to have the same kind of ceiling.

- Harambe

If I was Edmonton I’d trade Nuge, for a winger or two or a D. They are so top heavy. Play Mcdavid and Leon as the 1-2 centers and trade for a Kreider they need quantity over quality imo
JKSoule
Joined: 04.22.2015

May 13 @ 2:13 PM ET
Based on what?
- Feds91Stammer


Flat out eye test.. Analytics fooled TOR into thinking Marincin and Gardiner were amazing Defenseman lol.. when you’ve played hockey your entire life and are Canadian, hockey is your culture, paper doesn’t mean squat!

Go watch Marner’s draft year highlights.. he was dancing guys way worse than Hughes.. he looked a lot better than Hughes.
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Trump is your president for six more years, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

May 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
If I was Edmonton I’d trade Nuge, for a winger or two or a D. They are so top heavy. Play Mcdavid and Leon as the 1-2 centers and trade for a Kreider they need quantity over quality imo
- Slimtj100



I would like to see the Flyers trade for him. We have some good young D prospects that are close to being NHL ready. Plus a player like Gostisbehere might be a good fit.
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

May 13 @ 2:17 PM ET
Flat out eye test.. Analytics fooled TOR into thinking Marincin and Gardiner were amazing Defenseman lol.. when you’ve played hockey your entire life and are Canadian, hockey is your culture, paper doesn’t mean squat!

Go watch Marner’s draft year highlights.. he was dancing guys way worse than Hughes.. he looked a lot better than Hughes.

- JKSoule

JRR1285
New York Rangers
Location: Feeling Blessed, NY
Joined: 02.21.2008

May 13 @ 2:21 PM ET

- Harambe



This'll be fun. Tell me about it later.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 13 @ 2:36 PM ET
This generation’s generational talent is already here. McDavid. (frank) off with that poop.
gergeswillems
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Malkin wants to be The Man, ON
Joined: 02.01.2016

May 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
Flat out eye test.. Analytics fooled TOR into thinking Marincin and Gardiner were amazing Defenseman lol.. when you’ve played hockey your entire life and are Canadian, hockey is your culture, paper doesn’t mean squat!

Go watch Marner’s draft year highlights.. he was dancing guys way worse than Hughes.. he looked a lot better than Hughes.

- JKSoule

Awkward. Like a dancing Kevin Allen from 1987.

KINGS67
Season Ticket Holder
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Rolling Hills Estates, CA
Joined: 01.29.2010

May 13 @ 3:05 PM ET
Haha

Who do the hawks take at 3?

Byram probably according to those in the know

- Slimtj100

I’m kinda hoping CHI picks him so I wouldn’t have to wonder what the kings would do at 5. Lol

Byram would be scary good with doughty though. Dach, cozens, or Turcotte are also solid choices. Glad I’m not making these decisions. Even though LA dropped (yes I’m not happy about that at all) they will get a very good player.

robvl22
Joined: 02.02.2015

May 13 @ 3:24 PM ET
True, we cant all be bottom feeding perennial lottery picks like the Devils or the Oilers.

- MBFlyerfan


The Devils are "bottom feeding perennial lottery picks"? Remind me, when was the last time the Flyers won a cup? Or went to the Finals? NJ has done both more recently than Philly.
robvl22
Joined: 02.02.2015

May 13 @ 3:27 PM ET
Flat out eye test.. Analytics fooled TOR into thinking Marincin and Gardiner were amazing Defenseman lol.. when you’ve played hockey your entire life and are Canadian, hockey is your culture, paper doesn’t mean squat!

Go watch Marner’s draft year highlights.. he was dancing guys way worse than Hughes.. he looked a lot better than Hughes.

- JKSoule


Ahhhh right. Random internet dude definitely knows more than the professional scouts, who make it their living to evaluate players.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Inside Dundee’s wifey
Joined: 03.04.2013

May 13 @ 3:34 PM ET
Ahhhh right. Random internet dude definitely knows more than the professional scouts, who make it their living to evaluate players.
- robvl22

100% and there is so many of them nowadays.
Harambe
Columbus Blue Jackets
Location: Cincinatti Zoo - Gorilla Enclosure, OH
Joined: 07.28.2016

May 13 @ 3:40 PM ET
Ahhhh right. Random internet dude definitely knows more than the professional scouts, who make it their living to evaluate players.
- robvl22

He's a professional Canadian though
kaptaan
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.29.2010

May 13 @ 3:42 PM ET
Agree... Not every 1st overall is generational....
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