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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

May 8 @ 3:37 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: Canes/Avs SCF, hand passes, and free agent targets Canes/Avs SCF, hand passes, and free agent targets
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

May 8 @ 3:58 PM ET
Goooo Canes
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

May 8 @ 4:04 PM ET
I think hornqvist could be traded to a team who strikes out in free agency and has money to spend, but it’d be for pretty much nothing. Gudbransson wasn’t terrible with the pens so maybe he could be moved, but I would have to think salary would have to be retained. I don’t think there’s any team that wants Jack Johnson for his cap hit and term
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

May 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
I think hornqvist could be traded to a team who strikes out in free agency and has money to spend, but it’d be for pretty much nothing. Gudbransson wasn’t terrible with the pens so maybe he could be moved, but I would have to think salary would have to be retained. I don’t think there’s any team that wants Jack Johnson for his cap hit and term
- drummer829

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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
I would be totally fine with hand passes in the other two zones.
- Ryan_Wilson


Better idea, just let players pick up the puck and carry it around the ice. I have some other ideas to increase scoring chances:

- Get rid of those pesky "lines" all over the ice that stop teams from entering the zone before the puck.

- Eliminate the ability to skate backwards without the puck as the whole "playing defense" bit negates scoring chances.

- Remove goaltenders from gameplay and have the game played at 3v3. This should lead to an increased xgf for everyone but Zac Rinaldo.

- Let Ryan Wilson and James Tanner become GMs and serve on the BoG because they have all of the answers.
PghPens668771
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 11.26.2013

May 8 @ 4:30 PM ET
I am definitely cheering for the Canes at this point, although if the Avalanche win that would be ok too.

If the Pens trade Hornqvist they need to find someone else who is willing to play in front of the net a lot. No one on the current roster seems willing to do it often.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

May 8 @ 5:02 PM ET
If only RW was the Pens GM.....Beau Bennett would be Crosby's RW.....he drives so much possession!
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

May 8 @ 5:05 PM ET
you can't think of another reason why hand passes aren't allowed? Really?
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 8 @ 5:22 PM ET
I think hornqvist could be traded to a team who strikes out in free agency and has money to spend, but it’d be for pretty much nothing. Gudbransson wasn’t terrible with the pens so maybe he could be moved, but I would have to think salary would have to be retained. I don’t think there’s any team that wants Jack Johnson for his cap hit and term
- drummer829

I literally said the exact same thing about Hornqvist last week and was told he had zero or negative value, so there’s that

Teams that would take JJ and a pick and send us back someone they didn’t want or simply just buy him out could possibly include: Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa, Columbus (if they strike out in FA bet your buns they’ll need assets), NJD, and LA if they feel they need to enter a full rebuild. I’ll say it again though, I don’t think this happens until next offseason
BlackhawkMike
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.30.2011

May 8 @ 5:30 PM ET
Bruins/Blues SCF...yes Blackhawks fan picking the Blues.

Bruins win it in 6
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 8 @ 5:48 PM ET
I think hornqvist could be traded to a team who strikes out in free agency and has money to spend, but it’d be for pretty much nothing. Gudbransson wasn’t terrible with the pens so maybe he could be moved, but I would have to think salary would have to be retained. I don’t think there’s any team that wants Jack Johnson for his cap hit and term
- drummer829


This is from DK's site...

Patric Hornqvist has a full no-trade clause through the 2020-21 season. For the final two years of his contract in 2021-22 and 2022-23, that becomes a modified no-trade clause. If asked during those seasons, he is allowed to submit a list of eight teams he would not accept a trade to. Because this is a no-trade clause without the additional no-movement clause, the Penguins are not obligated to protect Hornqvist in an expansion draft.

JMO.... Neither Guddy and Hornie are going anywhere. JJ will definitely be back. Rutherford is a believer in these players. He was extremely defiant when talking about JJ.

madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

May 8 @ 5:55 PM ET
I was pretty certain Rutherford was trying to "rattle his cage" too. Every report in Pittsburgh says they will legitimately consider a trade.

Doogs
Season Ticket Holder
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh , PA
Joined: 09.16.2005

May 8 @ 6:10 PM ET
RW, is it possible that you post a blog that DOES NOT contain a repeated female dog about the bane of your existence?

And Go Ya Bunch of Jerks!!!
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

May 8 @ 6:11 PM ET
I literally said the exact same thing about Hornqvist last week and was told he had zero or negative value, so there’s that

Teams that would take JJ and a pick and send us back someone they didn’t want or simply just buy him out could possibly include: Detroit, Montreal, Ottawa, Columbus (if they strike out in FA bet your buns they’ll need assets), NJD, and LA if they feel they need to enter a full rebuild. I’ll say it again though, I don’t think this happens until next offseason

- WSCTeton17


Doesn’t “being moved out for pretty much nothing” mean that he has no value?
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 8 @ 6:21 PM ET
Doesn’t “being moved out for pretty much nothing” mean that he has no value?
- j.boyd919

Depends on how much you value $5.3MM on your books. I also don’t subscribe to the notion of him being worthless nor did I subscribe to the idea in the past that he was worth this big extension. Kane was my target. I wouldn’t mind seeing him move on but I’ve got the Avs
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

May 8 @ 6:38 PM ET
Weird ass site.... was just taking a look at our contracts and did not see Maatta. Was like "how the (frank) did i miss him being moved"... they just arbitrarily put him with the buyout/LTIR players.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 8 @ 6:42 PM ET
Weird ass site.... was just taking a look at our contracts and did not see Maatta. Was like "how the (frank) did i miss him being moved"... they just arbitrarily put him with the buyout/LTIR players.
- Guile

I guess I never looked if he’s at the Worlds, that could potentially boost his trade value
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
Avs best the Bruins for the cup.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 8 @ 6:43 PM ET
I guess I never looked if he’s at the Worlds, that could potentially boost his trade value
- WSCTeton17

I don’t think Maatta when to the Worlds but Kola is there
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

May 8 @ 6:46 PM ET
Kessel and Maata for Brodin and Zucker.

Malkin for Trochek, Tippett and #13 overall.

JJ and Pens 1st for Chuchryn.

Sign Zuccarello.

McCann sid Jake
Zucc Trochek Hornquist
Zucker Bjug Rust

Dumo ranger
Brodin Schultz
Chuch Gud

Do it jr!
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 8 @ 7:41 PM ET
Hornqvist on the top line for Sweden with Nylander and Elias Pets
copelal
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Baltimore, MD
Joined: 03.12.2014

May 8 @ 8:58 PM ET
I don’t profess to be a hockey rules expert or hockey purist, but could it be that the reason why hand-passing the puck is generally not allowed is because it could lead to a travesty of the game? A number of hockey’s rules put a premium on being able to skate, stickhandle, and pass (with one’s stick) well... icing, offside, the erstwhile 2-line offside, for example.

If hand passes were allowed everywhere, then I think the game would evolve to look a lot different, making the skills I mentioned above cheaper. Another thing is, if hand-passes are made legal, do we then say that a player may direct, or even throw, the puck into the net with his glove? I know it sounds crazy, but I would fear a slippery slope with this.

My understanding is that the only reason why hand-passes were made legal in the defensive zone is so a team under duress because of the other team’s forechecking couldn’t get a stoppage of play by intentionally hand-passing.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

May 8 @ 9:15 PM ET
Kessel and Maata for Brodin and Zucker.

Malkin for Trochek, Tippett and #13 overall.

JJ and Pens 1st for Chuchryn.

Sign Zuccarello.

McCann sid Jake
Zucc Trochek Hornquist
Zucker Bjug Rust

Dumo ranger
Brodin Schultz
Chuch Gud

Do it jr!

- MacPatty

None of the trades you’ve been proposing for the last three weeks make us better. Youre devolving into Palmer territory but without the obvious learning disability for an excuse.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

May 8 @ 9:20 PM ET
I'm taking the Canes in 7
FinnGod
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: ND
Joined: 01.25.2018

May 8 @ 9:29 PM ET
Bruins/Blues SCF...yes Blackhawks fan picking the Blues.

Bruins win it in 6

- BlackhawkMike

You’re what we call in the industry a “Debbie Downer” or even as far as a “Negative Nancy” in some circles of work...be the change you want to see
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