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manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:28 AM ET
https://twitter.com/TheDr...tatus/1121429348853133312

I thought it was kind of odd after I saw the first couple but counted Zegras during yesterdays game had 9 back hand no look passes to teammates. They all connected I believe. I thought it to be a bit odd it kept happening and I feel as if it could be a recipe for disaster in the NHL.

Jack Hughes was also very good in that game. Much better overall game and carried his line tremendously.

https://twitter.com/NHLDr...tatus/1120776995623796736

Another no look spinning pass by Zegras in a different game. "He's done it multiple times this season and in this case Cole Caufield was the beneficiary."

I'm not crazy
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

Apr 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
(frank) you booner - totally agree - again! This sucks!
- chompsey


Dont worry. When they bring back Gillis we can pick up where we left off 5 years ago.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:31 AM ET
What do you mean? The second round is today. Denver has got two picks now! I'm excited. Already got a really good looking Tight End yesterday.
- manvanfan


Seattle started out with 4 picks, now they have 9, none in the 6th or 7th, pretty impressive.

Take note JB.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:33 AM ET
lol...I'll bet.
- LordHumungous

He's (frank)en T I G H T!

I had to goggle. No idea who any of these college players are.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:33 AM ET
All you Blow Jay fans getting excited?
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:35 AM ET
Seattle started out with 4 picks, now they have 9, none in the 6th or 7th, pretty impressive.

Take note JB.

- VanHockeyGuy

In the NFL draft, I would trade down every year unless I was picking a can't miss prospect in the top 5.

I'd probably do the samething in the NHL if drafting 8-12, generally after 7 you aren't getting a top line player anymore so why not get two middle 6 players instead of 1. Of course unless you are thinking you are getting on of those 7 really good prospects
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Apr 26 @ 10:37 AM ET
Dont worry. When they bring back Gillis we can pick up where we left off 5 years ago.

- boonerbuck



Promise? Let me remember....I was pro-Gillis, you were anti-Gillis and had a hard-on for Hodgson?


Am I close?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Dont worry. When they bring back Gillis we can pick up where we left off 5 years ago.

- boonerbuck



10 more NTC's coming up!!!!

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
All you Blow Jay fans getting excited?
- VanHockeyGuy

Jays Suck!!

Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:41 AM ET
Seattle started out with 4 picks, now they have 9, none in the 6th or 7th, pretty impressive.

Take note JB.

- VanHockeyGuy

Schneider played his cards well, incredible job by him acquiring double his picks and getting a great pass rusher in Collier at #29.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:41 AM ET
In the NFL draft, I would trade down every year unless I was picking a can't miss prospect in the top 5.

I'd probably do the samething in the NHL if drafting 8-12, generally after 7 you aren't getting a top line player anymore so why not get two middle 6 players instead of 1. Of course unless you are thinking you are getting on of those 7 really good prospects

- manvanfan


Schneider's not done gun slinging. Fun to watch.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:42 AM ET


10 more NTC's coming up!!!!


- LordHumungous

He would find a way to add that into Horvat's current contract, he's that good.
Makita
Referee
Vancouver Canucks
Location: #theonlyrealfan, BC
Joined: 02.16.2007

Apr 26 @ 10:42 AM ET
Hey Makita, i'm not a Jays fan.

I was however an Expos fan.

Everything i've heard from before he was drafted to now is Vlad jr. is just like his dad.

- golfingsince

My oldest brother played for the expos farm club in 71, my dad was transferred to Victoria and mom wouldn’t let him stay in Quebec. That ended his career dreams at 17.

At that time he was the youngest player to hit a home run at Jarry Park, 6’4” excellent pitcher.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 26 @ 10:43 AM ET
Schneider played his cards well, incredible job by him acquiring double his picks and getting a great pass rusher in Collier at #29.
- Pacificgem


I thought they were screwed going in with just 4 picks this year and then 9 picks!
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 26 @ 10:53 AM ET
In the NFL draft, I would trade down every year unless I was picking a can't miss prospect in the top 5.

I'd probably do the samething in the NHL if drafting 8-12, generally after 7 you aren't getting a top line player anymore so why not get two middle 6 players instead of 1. Of course unless you are thinking you are getting on of those 7 really good prospects

- manvanfan

There's a couple of big hedge fund managers who are really into sports analytics. One of wrote an algorithm/analysis on the nfl draft. He found that the majority of nfl teams vastly overrate the 1st round pick especially when trading.
His conclusion was that you should always trade the 1st round pick because you'll pick up a few 2nd and 3rd picks for it. Those players have a high probability of making an impact (almost as much as a 1st rounder. )
They were hired by a few teams to present their findings. The team's listened, said it made sense but usually did the opposite i.e. trade for a 1st round pick rather than trade it away.

Schneider and the seahawks seem to buy into this reasoning.

**** the nfl draft and the nhl draft are not similar so I'm not advocating the same strategy *****
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 26 @ 11:05 AM ET
There's a couple of big hedge fund managers who are really into sports analytics. One of wrote an algorithm/analysis on the nfl draft. He found that the majority of nfl teams vastly overrate the 1st round pick especially when trading.
His conclusion was that you should always trade the 1st round pick because you'll pick up a few 2nd and 3rd picks for it. Those players have a high probability of making an impact (almost as much as a 1st rounder. )
They were hired by a few teams to present their findings. The team's listened, said it made sense but usually did the opposite i.e. trade for a 1st round pick rather than trade it away.

Schneider and the seahawks seem to buy into this reasoning.

**** the nfl draft and the nhl draft are not similar so I'm not advocating the same strategy *****

- RealityChecker


yup, that's their MO
anavar
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.29.2008

Apr 26 @ 11:10 AM ET
There's a couple of big hedge fund managers who are really into sports analytics. One of wrote an algorithm/analysis on the nfl draft. He found that the majority of nfl teams vastly overrate the 1st round pick especially when trading.
His conclusion was that you should always trade the 1st round pick because you'll pick up a few 2nd and 3rd picks for it. Those players have a high probability of making an impact (almost as much as a 1st rounder. )
They were hired by a few teams to present their findings. The team's listened, said it made sense but usually did the opposite i.e. trade for a 1st round pick rather than trade it away.

Schneider and the seahawks seem to buy into this reasoning.

**** the nfl draft and the nhl draft are not similar so I'm not advocating the same strategy *****

- RealityChecker

yeah, much harder to predict in the nhl due to how young the kids are.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 11:26 AM ET
There's a couple of big hedge fund managers who are really into sports analytics. One of wrote an algorithm/analysis on the nfl draft. He found that the majority of nfl teams vastly overrate the 1st round pick especially when trading.
His conclusion was that you should always trade the 1st round pick because you'll pick up a few 2nd and 3rd picks for it. Those players have a high probability of making an impact (almost as much as a 1st rounder. )
They were hired by a few teams to present their findings. The team's listened, said it made sense but usually did the opposite i.e. trade for a 1st round pick rather than trade it away.

Schneider and the seahawks seem to buy into this reasoning.

**** the nfl draft and the nhl draft are not similar so I'm not advocating the same strategy *****

- RealityChecker

It is a different league. I think with NHL prospects, it's easier to identify the players because the game is different.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:30 AM ET
He's (frank)en T I G H T!

I had to goggle. No idea who any of these college players are.

- manvanfan


He's more of an F tight end.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 26 @ 11:32 AM ET
All you Blow Jay fans getting excited?
- VanHockeyGuy

Biggest sports day in 20 years 🎉🎉🎉
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Apr 26 @ 11:34 AM ET
He's more of an F tight end.
- golfingsince

From his little highlight video it looked that way. Ran a 4.50 _40. That's quick for a TE
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 26 @ 11:34 AM ET
It is a different league. I think with NHL prospects, it's easier to identify the players because the game is different.
- manvanfan

yeah, there's a few reasons. as anavar pointed out, the age difference in draftees allows the nfl to evaluate adults rather than kids.

plus, with the amount of players/roster, it's easier to pick up top prospects in their position in rounds past round 1.

a couple of good drafts and an nfl team can go from rebuild to contender.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:34 AM ET
It is a different league. I think with NHL prospects, it's easier to identify the players because the game is different.
- manvanfan


I'd say it's the opposite. It's easier to identify the prospects for the NFL because they all play in the same league ( over 99% ).

The grading system is different for both drafts though and the roster size combined with average career length make it more feasible to trade down in the NFL, especially when several players have similar grades.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Apr 26 @ 11:35 AM ET
From his little highlight video it looked that way. Ran a 4.50 _40. That's quick for a TE
- manvanfan


Hockenson went 8th, that's a little high IMO. Actually, they both went a little higher than I thought they would.

Some really good players available tonight.
RealityChecker
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I stay away from the completely crazy rumours on the internet.I will occasionally debunk them-Eklund
Joined: 04.18.2010

Apr 26 @ 11:38 AM ET
I'd say it's the opposite. It's easier to identify the prospects for the NFL because they all play in the same league ( over 99% ).

The grading system is different for both drafts though and the roster size combined with average career length make it more feasible to trade down in the NFL, especially when several players have similar grades.

- golfingsince

plus with non-guaranteed contracts, it's a lot easier to dump an underperformer and just draft his replacement.
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