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PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
Hamilton would be a better fit then Ellis or Subban ( not even taking into account the salaries )
- Garnie



I would like Pesce more than any of the three mentioned in your post.


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:23 PM ET
Sounds a little like Babcock's approach. Wash, rinse, repeat. Don't try to change a thing
- Leafsmart


Sigh.

They didn’t lose game 7 because of Lievo.

That’s the point.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:25 PM ET
Leivo's issue is similar to Ennis. He's a 4th liner who is an offensive zone player that could use some PP time. He's bigger and more physical, but Ennis has played like a pitbull and seems to understand his role quite well.
- AdamFrench

This.

Ennis is a great 4th liner.

Lievo was meh on the 4th line.

Then people cry because Lievo scored a few goals. He (frank)ing better he was playing on the 1st line and getting PP mins on the Nucks.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:26 PM ET
One could argue that Kadri's value is higher than Nylander's at this point in time.

If I had to guess, it would be Kadri that gets traded;

1- Lou signed him to the contract, not Dubas.
2- back to back suspensions in the playoffs
3- an actual 2nd/3rd line C, which holds more value.

- PatC80



agreed - Kadri's value is higher and should be. I'm worried about Doogie Howser putting his ego analytics hat on ... not wanting to admit the Nylander signing was a mess (it was and is) and therefore moving other players who fit the mold of what's needed for more fast little guys... can't have enough of those.

but none of this will matter - if we SHOULD learn anything from that series - you can't have passengers - Leafs had far too many.

And we all know who they are.

If Nylander "has to play with Matthews" to bring value - then he's a passenger - because he doesn't do anything else.

compare that with Hyman.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:27 PM ET
This.

Ennis is a great 4th liner.

Lievo was meh on the 4th line.

Then people cry because Lievo scored a few goals. He (frank)ing better he was playing on the 1st line and getting PP mins on the Nucks.

- Santo_44



I honestly want Dubas to re-sign Ennis.. I liked his game against Boston.. Not the biggest guy, but he always battled and did a lot of good things for us this year.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:28 PM ET
Hamilton would be a better fit then Ellis or Subban ( not even taking into account the salaries )
- Garnie

6.25?

That’s great.

Hamilton is at 5.75 for a couple more years then will get 8-9....

Who do you want again?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:29 PM ET
I honestly want Dubas to re-sign Ennis.. I liked his game against Boston.. Not the biggest guy, but he always battled and did a lot of good things for us this year.
- PatC80

Absolutely.

He plays his role and he’s skilled.

He was the only decent think about the 2nd PP unit in the playoffs.

Moore-Goat-Ennis will probably be the 4th line next year. And rightly so.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 24 @ 4:33 PM ET
The more Gardiner played, the more goals the Leafs let in. When he played 12 mins they allowed 1 goal. Then after the series Babcock says he was playing injured, or that he wasn't mobile. Well what was he playing more minutes for? He had a history of bad playoffs and he's leaving after the season so play him more? Makes no sense.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 24 @ 4:37 PM ET
Anyone else see Hamilton literally run away from getting hit by Ovechkin. It was pathetic. He's another passenger d man. No thanks.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:38 PM ET
6.25?

That’s great.

Hamilton is at 5.75 for a couple more years then will get 8-9....

Who do you want again?

- Santo_44


Hamilton, pretty sure I was clear.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:40 PM ET
Anyone else see Hamilton literally run away from getting hit by Ovechkin. It was pathetic. He's another passenger d man. No thanks.
- aminnes


Pretty sure he thought it was icing.

See if you can find him on this list


http://www.naturalstattri...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:42 PM ET
I would like Pesce more than any of the three mentioned in your post.
- PatC80


I said Hamilton



I don't care who it is, as long we improved and make it past round 1.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:43 PM ET
I said Hamilton



I don't care who it is, as long we improved and make it past round 1.

- Garnie

Can't wait to play Boston again next year. Good old NHL , the matchup is easy to predict even a year out
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:44 PM ET
I honestly want Dubas to re-sign Ennis.. I liked his game against Boston.. Not the biggest guy, but he always battled and did a lot of good things for us this year.
- PatC80


absolutely should consider this.. but definitely just a one year deal - that would give Dubas options... but he has to be proactive about this stuff.

if he poops his pants and does nothing because of Marner's contract... well then he is going screw the organization in the large...
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:45 PM ET
Anyone else see Hamilton literally run away from getting hit by Ovechkin. It was pathetic. He's another passenger d man. No thanks.
- aminnes


no he didn't... multiple replays make it look like he thought it was icing....
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:46 PM ET
Can't wait to play Boston again next year. Good old NHL , the matchup is easy to predict even a year out
- Archaic


Could be TB instead.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 24 @ 4:47 PM ET
Pretty sure he thought it was icing.

See if you can find him on this list


http://www.naturalstattri...&td=&tgp=410&lines=single

- Garnie


Ya, I'm not big on analytics.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:48 PM ET
Anyone else see Hamilton literally run away from getting hit by Ovechkin. It was pathetic. He's another passenger d man. No thanks.
- aminnes


He thought it was icing you (frank)ing moron.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
no he didn't... multiple replays make it look like he thought it was icing....
- BorjeFan4Ever


If even Don Cherry can pick up on that, Anyone should be able to.
aminnes
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Mrs. Buzzkill, AB
Joined: 12.17.2008

Apr 24 @ 4:49 PM ET
no he didn't... multiple replays make it look like he thought it was icing....
- BorjeFan4Ever


Not a chance. He looks back to see who's coming meaning he knew full well it wasn't icing. When he sees OV he let's him take the puck. https://www.reddit.com/r/...g_despite_it_being_waved/
JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:50 PM ET
Hamilton, pretty sure I was clear.
- Garnie


Definitely Hamilton is the better fit.

Big, two-way guy, smart guy, hometown kid on a good contract.

When his contract runs out, the cap should go up and the Leafs will have their core players already locked up so it'll be easier to re-sign him than people think.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:54 PM ET
Ya, I'm not big on analytics.
- aminnes


Me either, but he's still pretty good.

Just shots on net over the last 3 seasons 5v5

1. Brent Burns 681

2. Hamilton 572

3. Josi 508

Hamilton with 500+ mins less then Burns.

BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:55 PM ET
Ya, I'm not big on analytics.
- aminnes


What about goals?

Because he has 18 goals in the regular season and is a point per game player in the playoffs so far.

The only defenseman with more goals than Hamilton over the past 3 seasons is Brent Burns.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
What about goals?

Because he has 18 goals in the regular season and is a point per game player in the playoffs so far.

The only defenseman with more goals than Hamilton over the past 3 seasons is Brent Burns.

- BINGO!



Hey hey, I got this.
TheMussel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.24.2013

Apr 24 @ 4:56 PM ET
Me either, but he's still pretty good.

Just shots on net over the last 3 seasons 5v5

1. Brent Burns 681

2. Hamilton 572

3. Josi 508

Hamilton with 500+ mins less then Burns.

- Garnie


'Member when Gardiner used to get shots on goal instead of shots on shinpads? I 'Member.
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