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JohnFergusonJr
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'd be happy with Che Guevara; hero of the Cuban revolution. - Canada Cup aka AOCC
Joined: 01.14.2011

Apr 24 @ 3:48 PM ET
Yuck. No Hamilton.

I’d explore NSH and their D. They probably figured out they can’t win with an elite D and no forwards to pass to.

Bracco will be running the 2nd PP next year by mid season. So Kadri or Willy is expendable for the right price.

- Santo_44


Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM ET

- JohnFergusonJr

Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Apr 24 @ 3:49 PM ET
Well I get the feeling that Shanny's first order of business is to trade Kadri somewhere. Doesn't matter how tough he plays, teams will set him up for a suspension ever time around. And he'll gladly take the bait. And also.... for the umpteenth time, we should have never traded Josh Leivo. He was exactly what our 4th line needed. And opposing D were aware when he entered the zone. Traded just before Willy came back. And we were never good after.... But what would I know.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Apr 24 @ 3:50 PM ET
Polak, Bozak, Martin and Komarov imo
- senstroll

Exactly what I was going to comment on....

“Those guys can’t play in today’s NHL”

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 3:51 PM ET
Well I get the feeling that Shanny's first order of business is to trade Kadri somewhere. Doesn't matter how tough he plays, teams will set him up for a suspension ever time around. And he'll gladly take the bait. And also.... for the umpteenth time, we should have never traded Josh Leivo. He was exactly what our 4th line needed. And opposing D were aware when he entered the zone. Traded just before Willy came back. And we were never good after.... But what would I know.
- Leafsmart


Not much, the 4th line was very good.

Who are you taking out for Lievo? Ennis or Moore? Ennis and Moore over Leivo 10/10.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 3:53 PM ET
Is Machessault talking about the Kadri hit on DeBrusk here? Ripped on the refs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yG0XEKcYWrg

The refs got the call wrong, Eakens should have gotten 2 min for cross-checking and Stasny 2 min for interference. So, 4 mins total.
Unfortunately, Pavelski was in a vulnerable position and landed awkwardly and that's what caused the injury.
However, wasn't the refs that let in 3 goals on the ensuing power play.
Suck it up Jonathan, the Leafs had to on a crappy call against Kadri.

- floater_willy



I get what you're saying... but Marchessault is 100% correct. Truth is the series turned on a bad call. Same arguement can be made of the non-calls on the Bruins... but for some reason - probably because the Leafs want to be all "noble".. they don't allow the players to vent.

If you have never been in a similar situation you simply can't understand having something like that taken away from you.

mr.sir
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver Island, BC
Joined: 01.18.2015

Apr 24 @ 3:54 PM ET
Ennis, Moore and 🐐 were great

(And make less than 1m)
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
Not much, the 4th line was very good.

Who are you taking out for Lievo? Ennis or Moore? Ennis and Moore over Leivo 10/10.

- Santo_44

Well how about healthy scratching one of two wingers on the third line and moving Ennis or Moore up. So now we should have the best part of two lines looking better.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 3:55 PM ET
Exactly what I was going to comment on....

“Those guys can’t play in today’s NHL”

- mr.sir


agreed.

... wait aren't they all playing in the second round?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 3:59 PM ET
Well how about healthy scratching one of two wingers on the third line and moving Ennis or Moore up. So now we should have the best part of two lines looking better.
- Leafsmart

Lievo isn’t that good.

He’s not making a difference switching out any winger on the team. He’s a 4th liner.
senstroll
Location: New Fan, Needs to watch Ballet, ON
Joined: 02.22.2008

Apr 24 @ 4:00 PM ET
Exactly what I was going to comment on....

“Those guys can’t play in today’s NHL”

- mr.sir


Well Martin and Komarov make 5.5 mil... thats (frank)ing stupid to pay for 4th liners

and Bozak makes too much to play behind 3 centers

Polak..well he makes Bishop stop 95% of the shots
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
Lievo isn’t that good.

He’s not making a difference switching out any winger on the team. He’s a 4th liner.

- Santo_44

Glad to hear. We'll just keep idling along with our third line then. They were outstanding this series.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:02 PM ET
Well Martin and Komarov make 5.5 mil... thats (frank)ing stupid to pay for 4th liners

and Bozak makes too much to play behind 3 centers

Polak..well he makes Bishop stop 95% of the shots

- senstroll


No way, they are the reason their teams are winning.

Just like Bolland won the Hawks a cup.

Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Apr 24 @ 4:03 PM ET
Glad to hear. We'll just keep idling along with our third line then. They were outstanding this series.
- Leafsmart

I don’t know what you are expecting of Lievo but he’s a 4th liner.

He isn’t doing anything more than anyone else. He’s an average 4th liner.
Leafsmart
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Fredericton, N.B.
Joined: 12.18.2013

Apr 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
I don’t know what you are expecting of Lievo but he’s a 4th liner.

He isn’t doing anything more than anyone else. He’s an average 4th liner.

- Santo_44

Sounds a little like Babcock's approach. Wash, rinse, repeat. Don't try to change a thing
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:06 PM ET
I don’t know what you are expecting of Lievo but he’s a 4th liner.

He isn’t doing anything more than anyone else. He’s an average 4th liner.

- Santo_44

Leivo's issue is similar to Ennis. He's a 4th liner who is an offensive zone player that could use some PP time. He's bigger and more physical, but Ennis has played like a pitbull and seems to understand his role quite well.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:07 PM ET
Is it because of reason 3 or reason 1?
Reason 2 is just not a reason.

- Fakepartofme


All of them. Especially reason #4: "I want it to happen"
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:08 PM ET
The ratings for Islanders vs Hurricanes will be amazing.
- AdamFrench


Caps/Canes game 6 had the second highest ratings of any game in the first round prior to last night.

(In the US)
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:09 PM ET
Caps/Canes game 6 had the second highest ratings of any game in the first round prior to last night.

(In the US)

- BINGO!

That's why I said it, obviously.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Apr 24 @ 4:11 PM ET
Well I get the feeling that Shanny's first order of business is to trade Kadri somewhere. Doesn't matter how tough he plays, teams will set him up for a suspension ever time around. And he'll gladly take the bait. And also.... for the umpteenth time, we should have never traded Josh Leivo. He was exactly what our 4th line needed. And opposing D were aware when he entered the zone. Traded just before Willy came back. And we were never good after.... But what would I know.
- Leafsmart


if trading Nylander at this point in time "would be stupid" because his value is artificially low... then trading Kadri now is MORE stupid.

which is why it will probably happen, because it would be convenient excuse to get Dubas out of the CAP hell he's created with Nylander's contract.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:16 PM ET
Holy Mackinaw., even Johnny Toronto couldn't bring home the cup. Don't worry Leaf fans I hear that 53 years is a lucky number.
- islansjet

He didn't get an easy penguins matchup unfortunately, oh well, not all teams can get a mediocore path to the second round.
PatC80
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I would never let my children play hockey. The risk of getting drafted by Edmonton is too high", ON
Joined: 08.11.2011

Apr 24 @ 4:17 PM ET
if trading Nylander at this point in time "would be stupid" because his value is artificially low... then trading Kadri now is MORE stupid.

which is why it will probably happen, because it would be convenient excuse to get Dubas out of the CAP hell he's created with Nylander's contract.

- BorjeFan4Ever



One could argue that Kadri's value is higher than Nylander's at this point in time.

If I had to guess, it would be Kadri that gets traded;

1- Lou signed him to the contract, not Dubas.
2- back to back suspensions in the playoffs
3- an actual 2nd/3rd line C, which holds more value.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:19 PM ET
Yuck. No Hamilton.

I’d explore NSH and their D. They probably figured out they can’t win with an elite D and no forwards to pass to.

Bracco will be running the 2nd PP next year by mid season. So Kadri or Willy is expendable for the right price.

- Santo_44


Hamilton would be a better fit then Ellis or Subban ( not even taking into account the salaries )
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Apr 24 @ 4:22 PM ET
Watch Foligno run roughshod all over Boston

- Old Pappy


They have a few guys that will, CBJ would have been a tougher series then the Bruins IMO
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