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HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Apr 24 @ 9:58 AM ET
Yep. Bad call but Vegas had 3 games to put them away and didnt.

Gallant was awful this series

- PatShart


More about your comment because I know you are a Q guy...people can say what they want about line combos, the PP, etc. I’ve said it too, but you can’t argue with the team’s performance in the playoffs when they had an opportunity to send the opponent home while Q was here.
z1990z
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: NW USA
Joined: 02.09.2012

Apr 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
More about your comment because I know you are a Q guy...people can say what they want about line combos, the PP, etc. I’ve said it too, but you can’t argue with the team’s performance in the playoffs when they had an opportunity to send the opponent home while Q was here.
- HawkintheD



That and you had 19, 88, 10, 81, 2, 7, and 4 in their prime. And teams that knew how to play D and have an effective PK. This current team must re-focus on team D. Or they aint going anywhere.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Apr 24 @ 10:06 AM ET
My issues with Gallant this series...

Game 1 - didnt dress Miller for Holden (who was Manning-like Brutal)

Then, wasnt getting any scoring from the lower lines yet never tweaked/gave SJ different looks/combos. Made it very easy for SJ to adapt

Game 5, chance to put them away and came out slow

No one on the team took charge/challenged his team with any urgency. Team should have been called out by someone (Q would have had his scowl)

Game 6 - wo adjustments/line changes after lackluster game 5. Team played lazy. While outshooting SJ, never once was Jones swimming/getting traffic or bumped.

Last night, SJ was the better team again all game.l and Fluery was keeping it close. Bad call, sure but the second SJ goal should have been challenged with a skate in Fluerys pads. Even if no call, would have taken longer than a timeout to regroup.

Between Gallant doing nothing all series and the lack of a leader taking control of the bench...makes you appreciate what the Hawks did when having a chance to eliminate teams and their record when a series was ever tied 2-2. Q made adjustments come game 5 and most coaches never could or would counter
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 24 @ 10:11 AM ET
Penalty or no, Vegas sure didn't keep their composure, and forget about the fact they are an expansion team, they are a veteran team with a lot of playoff experience, and Stanley Cup winners. All Cup winners face some sort of adversity during the playoffs, Vegas failed and goes home.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Apr 24 @ 10:13 AM ET
My issues with Gallant this series...

Game 1 - didnt dress Miller for Holden (who was Manning-like Brutal)

Then, wasnt getting any scoring from the lower lines yet never tweaked/gave SJ different looks/combos. Made it very easy for SJ to adapt

Game 5, chance to put them away and came out slow

No one on the team took charge/challenged his team with any urgency. Team should have been called out by someone (Q would have had his scowl)

Game 6 - wo adjustments/line changes after lackluster game 5. Team played lazy. While outshooting SJ, never once was Jones swimming/getting traffic or bumped.

Last night, SJ was the better team again all game.l and Fluery was keeping it close. Bad call, sure but the second SJ goal should have been challenged with a skate in Fluerys pads. Even if no call, would have taken longer than a timeout to regroup.

Between Gallant doing nothing all series and the lack of a leader taking control of the bench...makes you appreciate what the Hawks did when having a chance to eliminate teams and their record when a series was ever tied 2-2. Q made adjustments come game 5 and most coaches never could or would counter

- PatShart


Also Eakin's goal I bet during the regular season would of been called stick above the crossbar.
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Apr 24 @ 10:15 AM ET
WTF...that was the most bizarre 3rd period I have seen since the hawks vs ducks Gm 4 WC finals 2015: hawks had a 3-1 lead and the ducks scored 3x in 90 seconds to take a lead and then kane tied it 4-4 late in the 3rd and hawks won it in 2OT with vermetes goal

neither ref was going to call a penalty on that post face off crosscheck; they then divine a 5 min major after seeing pavelski was seriously injured...there's your top notch NHL reffing...at first it was a playoff play on crosscheck but no not really...

I saw at least 4-5 holds and trips that are called in the regular season; but orders from bettmans penthouse says ignore all those trips, crosschecks and holds in the playoffs...

that is BS...call the game or at least try to call the penalties that are penalties

the knights and MAF were a skating deer in headlight for that 5 min major...they lost this game despite the absurd 5 min major call...

Pav is a great player and class person; his team mates seem to agree with the way they responded. I hope he can play next round. It looked to me like his head and shoulder took the full force of that fall.
TheTrob
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Oak Park, IL
Joined: 04.14.2010

Apr 24 @ 10:17 AM ET
Bad call - should have been two minutes (or none, considering what doesn’t get called, especially in the playoffs - call more of the cross checks that happen in board scrums and at the net and you’ll see less crosschecks).

Yes, VGK got screwed on the call - but suck it up, kill most of the penalty, make a save - they lost the game on their own.

Not to mention blowing a 3-1 series lead.

I have no sympathy....

- StLBravesFan



Yeah, Bad call. So What. Kill the penalty, or at least some of it.

1st goal 7 seconds in, 2nd goal within the first minute. You could hear and feel the momentum in the building. It sounded crazy. Gallant should have called a time out at that point and tried to focus his players but he didn't. Had another chance after the 3rd goal and didn't, then SJ scores 30 seconds later. Gallant/VGK needed to find a way to snap that momentum. SJ had a few very near misses after the 4th goal too.

I'm impressed with the way Vegas came back and tied it. For most of the evening they were the better team.

Situations like those amplify the reasons why you need strong leaders on the ice. VGK was the better team for 75 of the almost 80 minutes last night and probably 80 of the 90 minutes in Game 6 and lost both games. Someone stepping up and calming down the players on the ice to get thru the penalty kill, or making a play to turn the momentum would have gone a long way.

Look at the teams who have gone home and the ones advancing, look at the contributions from their "leaders" when the times got tough and it tells a big story.
StLBravesFan
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.03.2011

Apr 24 @ 10:24 AM ET
More about your comment because I know you are a Q guy...people can say what they want about line combos, the PP, etc. I’ve said it too, but you can’t argue with the team’s performance in the playoffs when they had an opportunity to send the opponent home while Q was here.
- HawkintheD

Not just the elimination games - the Hawks record in games 4, 5, and 6 was incredible.

Give the coaches and players a couple of games to figure it out, and they were mostly unbeatable.
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Apr 24 @ 10:26 AM ET
Count me in the "bad call" camp. Eakin's cross check wasn't in open ice where it would rise to the level of penalty - it was in a faceoff scrum where muggings and cross checks are more the rule than the exception. Pavelski got thrown off balance and the 2nd Vegas player was just pushing him out of the way. It was unfortunate that Pavelski got twisted around and fell awkwardly but no way that rise to a 5-min major.

I don't root for either team so I couldn't care less which team won but after that call and subsequent 4 goals on the PP I was hoping Vegas would win ... but alas .... who cares.
PatShart
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Vegas, NV
Joined: 06.25.2015

Apr 24 @ 10:39 AM ET
When Strome/Debrincat contracts come up - both they and they Hawks really need to weigh bridge deals versus big dollars

If they go the dollars route...might as well kiss away this group winning a cup. If they (both the player and team) want to win, those guys need to take more of a bridge deal (2-3yrs at 4-4.5m per) so the Hawks can add depth and continue to develop. It will give the team the flexibility to have depth.

Going the Nylander/TOR route...and then they have to now overpay Marner out of his rookie deal....they're done.

I'd really consider moving Cat/Strome if they come in wanting 7mil per coming out of rookie deals. Sadly.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Apr 24 @ 10:51 AM ET
Bingo i m routing for tje canes good luck tonight
DarthKane
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 5.13.4.9
Joined: 02.23.2012

Apr 24 @ 10:52 AM ET
When Strome/Debrincat contracts come up - both they and they Hawks really need to weigh bridge deals versus big dollars

If they go the dollars route...might as well kiss away this group winning a cup. If they (both the player and team) want to win, those guys need to take more of a bridge deal (2-3yrs at 4-4.5m per) so the Hawks can add depth and continue to develop. It will give the team the flexibility to have depth.

Going the Nylander/TOR route...and then they have to now overpay Marner out of his rookie deal....they're done.

I'd really consider moving Cat/Strome if they come in wanting 7mil per coming out of rookie deals. Sadly.

- PatShart



fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Apr 24 @ 10:57 AM ET
Giving up 4 pp goals in the third is very bad. The cross check / interference was 2 minutes that is never called but 4 goals. Wow. They still should have closed.

Seeing Babcock lose is great.



riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Apr 24 @ 10:58 AM ET
Send us your energy
- BINGO!

1.21 gigawatts coming your way
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Apr 24 @ 11:00 AM ET
When Strome/Debrincat contracts come up - both they and they Hawks really need to weigh bridge deals versus big dollars

If they go the dollars route...might as well kiss away this group winning a cup. If they (both the player and team) want to win, those guys need to take more of a bridge deal (2-3yrs at 4-4.5m per) so the Hawks can add depth and continue to develop. It will give the team the flexibility to have depth.

Going the Nylander/TOR route...and then they have to now overpay Marner out of his rookie deal....they're done.

I'd really consider moving Cat/Strome if they come in wanting 7mil per coming out of rookie deals. Sadly.

- PatShart


Debrincat is 8 million easy. 40 goals is kind of a big deal. Maybe they get away with 7 if they extend him this summer.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Apr 24 @ 11:05 AM ET
Bingo i m routing for tje canes good luck tonight
- Scott1977


scott, thank you
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Apr 24 @ 11:06 AM ET
how many years is the NHL entry level contract? not only will the Hawks get an elite player at 3, but a very cost controlled contract - SO VALUABLE
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 24 @ 11:08 AM ET
Four of the teams with the most serious cap problems this summer, Tampa Bay, Toronto, Vegas, and Winnipeg all ousted in the first round of the playoffs. They will have to shed a few depth players each and bring in a bunch of prospects on ELC's or veterans on cheap contracts, making their quest for the Cup next year a little bit harder.
- boilermaker100


Boo freaking hooo.

Yeah YAAAAAH!

Let's watch their fans start calling for the ousting of their GM for each and every dime they feel he "mis-spent" and the inventive ways they try and find "fills' to keep winning.

I think is was funny how much was made about the Knights signing the Russian Gusev, but did he play? If he did he was invisible...it just seemed an odd timing thing (I know the Russian league season ended) issue with the "Will he play?" questions.


Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Apr 24 @ 11:09 AM ET
Debrincat is 8 million easy. 40 goals is kind of a big deal. Maybe they get away with 7 if they extend him this summer.
- fattybeef


I’d really prefer to see if Debrincat can bring his game in a playoff atmosphere before inking him to that kind of $/term. I agree that his regular season performance warrants something significant - but in the middle of these playoffs it’s clear some players seem to wilt under the heavy style of play. Hopefully a bridge deal is reached - but the trend seems to be going away from that.

walleyeb1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Petersburg, IL
Joined: 09.25.2014

Apr 24 @ 11:09 AM ET
Penalty or no, Vegas sure didn't keep their composure, and forget about the fact they are an expansion team, they are a veteran team with a lot of playoff experience, and Stanley Cup winners. All Cup winners face some sort of adversity during the playoffs, Vegas failed and goes home.
- LAHawk


I thought right after that first goal Gallant should have called a timeout, and got his team refocused.
glennjpawlak22
Joined: 11.26.2013

Apr 24 @ 11:11 AM ET
I thought right after that first goal Gallant should have called a timeout, and got his team refocused.
- walleyeb1


Walley, that was the right call. Enzo would have called that one!!!!
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 24 @ 11:12 AM ET
More about your comment because I know you are a Q guy...people can say what they want about line combos, the PP, etc. I’ve said it too, but you can’t argue with the team’s performance in the playoffs when they had an opportunity to send the opponent home while Q was here.
- HawkintheD


Where's Paul? Hope he's enjoying work today. Maybe he went on the Leaves page and was banned.
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Apr 24 @ 11:14 AM ET
Count me in the "bad call" camp. Eakin's cross check wasn't in open ice where it would rise to the level of penalty - it was in a faceoff scrum where muggings and cross checks are more the rule than the exception. Pavelski got thrown off balance and the 2nd Vegas player was just pushing him out of the way. It was unfortunate that Pavelski got twisted around and fell awkwardly but no way that rise to a 5-min major.

I don't root for either team so I couldn't care less which team won but after that call and subsequent 4 goals on the PP I was hoping Vegas would win ... but alas .... who cares.

- EbonyRaptor


Yeah, I am impartial as well, but I think I know why the call was made:

a) it was the second smash down that did the injury and maybe that is an infraction besides the face-off stick.

b) It was a star player a vet and it was basically a violent take downs nd injury occurred.

c) The zebras could have called two penalties, a 2 minute f-o penalties and and 4 minute "take-down penalty but not wasn't convenient, as they would have had to explain why they dis over the easy 5 minute penalty...
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Apr 24 @ 11:14 AM ET
I thought right after that first goal Gallant should have called a timeout, and got his team refocused.
- walleyeb1


As I was watching the melt down - I was very thankful it wasn’t happening to the Hawks. I’d probably be measuring some drywall sections to replace in my basement this morning if it were.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Apr 24 @ 11:15 AM ET
I thought right after that first goal Gallant should have called a timeout, and got his team refocused.
- walleyeb1


I agree. But had they continued scoring after that, he'd be getting ripped for panicking and causing his team to panic.
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