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DrMidnite
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: False-Positive, Texas
Joined: 12.10.2010

Apr 16 @ 7:05 PM ET
Sanheim, Provy, Ghost, Myers is the make up of a really solid top 4 defense as they continue to develop. The offense is already pretty good and with the influx of Frost and Farabee should only get better. Fletcher still has a whole off season to really put his stamp on the team as well.

Now if Fletch sits by and does absolutely nothing then we're probably in trouble. I think it would be wise to see what is available for our 1st this year but it has to be within reason.

There was some talk of floating Patrick out there in the trade market which i'm not totally against. If you could get a truly elite young center for Patrick+ our 1st then i say go for it.

- Mordecai


Dude, I get it.

But to get a fan base and ownership on board for deliberate team building over at least a 5 year span is HARD.

Hextall thought he was his boss' boss.

And now he is fired from his dream job.

I still think he envied Hinkie and his hubris made him think he could do whatever he wanted.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 7:06 PM ET
So! How many years should Hexy have gotten?

Please provide the years in between our playoff appearances and his tenure.

It was taking way too long. He used the Holmgren GM thing as an excuse for being awful. A better GM would have sped it up a little.

- DrMidnite


More than he was given. He should still be the GM in my opinion.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 7:08 PM ET
Culture change.

EDIT: and that should make him attractive to a contender, no? No trade clause or not; all those guys want is to be consulted.

- DrMidnite


Using the idea of making a culture change as a reason for trading Claude Giroux is really silly and foolish.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 16 @ 7:08 PM ET
Isn’t that jmatch’s schtick?
- Nucker101

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 7:09 PM ET
Yea he got most of those playing where he’s best :BEHIND OTHER PEOPLE.
What’s he done as captain? Since that penguins series? NOTHING

- JoeRussomanno


You should rephrase that. He scored a lot of those points when he was playing on a good team with a supporting cast.
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 16 @ 7:11 PM ET
MJL drove 50% of FLyers Buzzers to HF Boards, it's actually pretty insane.
- ClaudeFather

so they can have circle jerks while they incessantly female dog about Hagg
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 7:11 PM ET
What are we doing now?

EDIT, that was my point entirely.

Hextall should have never tried to tweak. It was stupid and he NEEDED ownership support for his nonsense.

When that left his days were numbered, especially with no real improvement over 5 years.

- DrMidnite


Calling Hextall's plan a tweak is highly inaccurate. He completely turned around how the team operated when he took over from Holmgren.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 16 @ 7:12 PM ET
so they can have circle jerks while they incessantly female dog about Hagg
- KINGKENZO

yeah if you've been over there it's not much different from here. there are a few good eggs over there but it's nothing to write home about.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 16 @ 7:14 PM ET
That’s cool cause i love the kool aid drinking while we haven’t won a playoff series in forever bc stats are awesome.
Fantasy sports !!! Bc watching the actual game and deciphering what it takes to WIN is overrated.

- JoeRussomanno



Right..your eye test vs stats should definitely be considered cannon when talking about the Flyers.

You undervalue Giroux, thankfully no one with any significance in the Flyers org does.

Also just to know that Im not being snarky for snarks sake..
Im over the Flyers currently and their inability to make the playoffs let alone with a series. Im also over how they have become the softest team ever .. Embarrassing in every way,.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 16 @ 7:15 PM ET
Tampa gonna get swept...
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 16 @ 7:16 PM ET
so they can have circle jerks while they incessantly female dog about Hagg
- KINGKENZO



If I had to pick a sentence I never thought I would read in life it would be the above..

Never change Flyersbuzz!!
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Apr 16 @ 7:18 PM ET
This is just unbelievable in Columbus

If torts can pull this off I’ll back off of big V. Time to give V a chance.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 16 @ 7:18 PM ET
Tampa gonna get swept...

- MBFlyerfan



It's really shocking. I thought they would win the Cup handily. They still might but the odds are really against them.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 16 @ 7:18 PM ET
guys it's my fault. i recently moved to Florida and chose Tampa as my 2nd favorite team. i did this.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Apr 16 @ 7:19 PM ET
This Lightning team is the biggest group of front running gutless frauds I've seen in a long time.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 16 @ 7:20 PM ET
This Lightning team is the biggest group of front running gutless frauds I've seen in a long time.
- PLindbergh31

if only Stamkos was a real leader smh
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 16 @ 7:21 PM ET
that backread was embarrassing
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 16 @ 7:22 PM ET
Ovechkin showed some elite leadership the other night when he punched Svech in the face as he was already going down. Need some of that on this team.

how about when Thorton almost took that guys head off? truly top tier leadership.

Crosby is just not scoring at all so he can maximize his leadership points.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Apr 16 @ 7:22 PM ET
that backread was embarrassing
- KINGKENZO



This place is consistent if nothing else. =)
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 16 @ 7:23 PM ET
guys it's my fault. i recently moved to Florida and chose Tampa as my 2nd favorite team. i did this.
- Mordecai



Do you have the Tampa players locked in the cum coffin
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 16 @ 7:25 PM ET
guys it's my fault. i recently moved to Florida and chose Tampa as my 2nd favorite team. i did this.
- Mordecai



My annual preseason $50 bet had them playing the Sharks in the Final.

I usually at least get to the conference finals with one of my teams.......
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 16 @ 7:26 PM ET
HUGE goal by Stamkos.
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 16 @ 7:26 PM ET
Do you have the Tampa players locked in the cum coffin
- wcorvette

i only put people/players worthy of elite leadership in the coffin now
Mordecai
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: not very poggers
Joined: 08.27.2015

Apr 16 @ 7:26 PM ET
HUGE goal by Stamkos.
- MBFlyerfan

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KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Apr 16 @ 7:33 PM ET
Ovechkin showed some elite leadership the other night when he punched Svech in the face as he was already going down. Need some of that on this team.

how about when Thorton almost took that guys head off? truly top tier leadership.

Crosby is just not scoring at all so he can maximize his leadership points.

- Mordecai

Watching in real time, I didnt have a problem with it. He was already throwing as he started going down, and his follow through didnt drive his head into the ice. Conversely, what Tkachuck was gutless. He wrestled down Landeskog and putting his forearm on GL's head as he hit the ice, then threw a few sucker punches while he was on his back
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