definitely can't be both though right
- daeth

Could be.
But of the two, dermott is missed more.

Omg 3 losses after getting points in 20 straight games or so.

Chill.
- Fakepartofme

I think he was joking.
Kind of being facetious using similar stuff to the complaints against the Leafs lately.

Gards is horrible in his own end but people want polak back who is even worse in his own end and doesn't do anything else at the othe end.

It's crazy to even have this discussion. Gards is miles ahead of polak.
- burn

Why do people want polak back?

Yes, id prefer gards over polak.

At least gards gets 1 in 5 stretch passes to its intended target.

I dont think polak even stretches

I think he was joking.
- Thecakeisalie

Maybe.
Hard to tell on here sometimes

My bad if so.

Why do people want polak back?

Yes, id prefer gards over polak.

At least gards gets 1 in 5 stretch passes to its intended target.

I dont think polak even stretches
- Fakepartofme

Because Burn can't read an entire post.


I was responding to someone else that mentioned we shouldn't have let Polak go.

I said I wouldn't have really minded keeping him since he's cheap, but he probably would've been a scratch regularly if all were healthy.

Then I mentioned he might've been useful in the playoffs when we needed to be a little more physical and mentioned subbing him in for Zaits or Gards when needed. I'm not a fan of Zaits, and Gards while decent offensively, scares me in his own end, and we've got other offensive guys and in some games could use a little toughness more than him and his brainfarts.

Could be.
But of the two, dermott is missed more.
- Fakepartofme

maybe, maybe not. dermott gets way easier minutes and usage, hard to gauge who is more important as a result.

Because Burn can't read an entire post.


I was responding to someone else that mentioned we shouldn't have let Polak go.

I said I wouldn't have really minded keeping him since he's cheap, but he probably would've been a scratch regularly if all were healthy.

Then I mentioned he might've been useful in the playoffs when we needed to be a little more physical and mentioned subbing him in for Zaits or Gards when needed. I'm not a fan of Zaits, and Gards while decent offensively, scares me in his own end, and we've got other offensive guys and in some games could use a little toughness more than him and his brainfarts.
- Thecakeisalie

Ah ok. I was gonna say, that cant be true.

maybe, maybe not. dermott gets way easier minutes and usage, hard to gauge who is more important as a result.
- daeth

Dermott is better at defense.
We suck at defense.
He is missed.

But i want both back asap. Need them back up to speed for the playoffs

Because Burn can't read an entire post.


I was responding to someone else that mentioned we shouldn't have let Polak go.

I said I wouldn't have really minded keeping him since he's cheap, but he probably would've been a scratch regularly if all were healthy.

Then I mentioned he might've been useful in the playoffs when we needed to be a little more physical and mentioned subbing him in for Zaits or Gards when needed. I'm not a fan of Zaits, and Gards while decent offensively, scares me in his own end, and we've got other offensive guys and in some games could use a little toughness more than him and his brainfarts.
- Thecakeisalie

the problem with polak is the only thing he's good at is mashing people around the net or in the corners. he's (frank)ing tragic everywhere else. one of the worst in the league that actually plays most games.

the problem with polak is the only thing he's good at is mashing people around the net or in the corners. he's (frank)ing tragic everywhere else. one of the worst in the league that actually plays most games.
- daeth

In the playoffs guys like him often seem to shine though. When the refs arbitrarily change the rules after the regular season, guys like him are more useful.

maybe, maybe not. dermott gets way easier minutes and usage, hard to gauge who is more important as a result.
- daeth

This is true. I'd like to see Dermott getting Gards' minutes and see how he does. It's possible he'd look less steady in his own zone against tougher matchups. It's so hard to tell sometimes.

I hate to say it, but Button looks correct on this one. The over aggressive style of defending is leaving guys out of position.

His anti-physical wait for a PP strategy has failed. And he spoke about giving Anderson some rest but we haven't seen it.
- aminnes

You actually think the Leafs lack of physical play is mandated by Babcock?

The guy that gets hard ons for lunch pale grinders?

https://twitter.com/junot...tatus/1106384234661466113

I don't ever remember him coaching a very young team to success. His successes are with teams with a lot of vets and guys with a lot of experience. I'm blown away how many of these young guys take shifts and often nights off. I hope it doesn't turn into Edmonton 2.0 where they all get their fat paycheques and then (frank) the dog after that. I don't think Marner will but.
- aminnes

I’m confused on this one, this seems to be a point Babs haters flip flop on.

Babcock preaches hard work above all else, that’s undeniable even to the haters. Yet he accused of being anti-physical.

Babcock gets accused of being too hard on young stars and needs to meet them in the summer months to much media hoopla. Next accusation is how much he lets the young guys take nights off.

Yet the second vets are rewarded for ‘playing the right way’ everyone loses their mind.

Babs put Marleau back on the top 2 lines in practice. Yeah that'll turn it around!
- RogerRoeper

I watched Marleau live last week a few rows up, dude does everything well, does not take liabilities.

Perfectly fine top 6 complimentary winger.

Tampa Bay went down 3-0 to Detroit than woke up and came back to win 5-4.

All that talent up front and can’t start on time, fire Cooper!

You actually think the Leafs lack of physical play is mandated by Babcock?

The guy that gets hard ons for lunch pale grinders?
- Blazed

Lack of response to be sure. A 22 year old defensemen was pushed from behind by a bum from a bad team and absolutely nothing. It's happened before. If he isn't pushing it, her sure as poop isn't holding guys accountable for being the least physical team in the league. If it's purely a personale issue then he and Dubas are not on the same page in this area.

I’m confused on this one, this seems to be a point Babs haters flip flop on.

Babcock preaches hard work above all us, that’s undeniable even to the haters. Yet he accused of being anti-physical.

Babcock gets accused of being too hard on young stars and needs to meet them in the summer months to much media hoopla. Next accusation is how much he lets the young guys take nights off.

Yet the second vets are rewarded for ‘playing the right way’ everyone loses their mind.
- Blazed

I thought it was a joke that he met with guys in the summer. WTF, no one does that, certainly no one makes it public.

Lack of response to be sure. A 22 year old defensemen was pushed from behind by a bum from a bad team and absolutely nothing. It's happened before. If he isn't pushing it, her sure as poop isn't holding guys accountable for being the least physical team in the league. If it's purely a personale issue then he and Dubas are not on the same page in this area.
- aminnes

Just so we’re clear, your stance is: ‘Babcock orchestrated a lack of response to Malone’s hit.’

Was he supposed to tap Hainsey on the shoulder?

I thought it was a joke that he met with guys in the summer. WTF, no one does that, certainly no one makes it public.
- aminnes

I don’t think the that’s the joke, the joke is the coverage it gets and some of the opinions shaped as a result.

You know what NHL coaches do in the off-season?

Mike Augello: Jekyll and Hyde Leafs need to find formula for success
- mikeinbuffalo

lmao 😆

sorry guys i just got out of fb jail so i haven’t been commenting as much here lately 🤦‍♂️

please don’t get your hopes up for a long playoff run this year 🤦‍♂️

dumbass didn’t trade greedy willi and garbagener for another real deman who doesn’t want to play house and heavier men so you will continue to see our skill players getting their bells rung until they are all gone🤦‍♂️

we will probably get to se 3-5 games in the playoffs 👍🏿 Depending on how seriously Boston takes us this year 😭

what a (frank)ing joke 🤦‍♂️

edit: nice alliteration 👍

definitely can't be both though right
- daeth

So bizzare

Because Burn can't read an entire post.


I was responding to someone else that mentioned we shouldn't have let Polak go.

I said I wouldn't have really minded keeping him since he's cheap, but he probably would've been a scratch regularly if all were healthy.

Then I mentioned he might've been useful in the playoffs when we needed to be a little more physical and mentioned subbing him in for Zaits or Gards when needed. I'm not a fan of Zaits, and Gards while decent offensively, scares me in his own end, and we've got other offensive guys and in some games could use a little toughness more than him and his brainfarts.
- Thecakeisalie

I didn't say we should scratch gards for polak, but we should scratch gards for polak.

Way to hockeybuzz it all up.

In the playoffs guys like him often seem to shine though. When the refs arbitrarily change the rules after the regular season, guys like him are more useful.
- Thecakeisalie

Yeah, no.

I'm pretty sure that guys that can't get the puck out in regular season and get caved in still get caved in any other time.

So goofy.