I get what you are saying, and it would really suck if a major is assessed to a team thats fighting for a playoff spot and that effectively ends their season. I just hate the stoppages. Maybe they can just get better refs.
- mdw7413

There is no doubt there is a lot to be desired from NHL refs. I just think realistically, in real time, and at ice level, you could see why they thought it was a major penalty. Although it would still leave bad calls, maybe you give these guys 60 seconds to look at these plays from multiple angles. When in doubt, let the call on the ice stand.

My issue with this is intent can be subjective, so even with a review it might still be a ridiculous call depending on who is reviewing it. I mean something like the Brasheer McSorley incident, yeah pretty blatant intent, but something that looks a certain way in real time can look worse or better in slo motion.
- mdw7413

There will always be gray areas, even with review. But it would help ensure blatant incorrect calls are fixed.
With everyone being able to instantly see a replay in super slow-mo, the League needs to make a decision. Either accept that the refs are human and capable of mistakes, or go the way of replay in a more effective way to ensure egregious mistakes aren't made.

There will always be gray areas, even with review. But it would help ensure blatant incorrect calls are fixed.
With everyone being able to instantly see a replay in super slow-mo, the League needs to make a decision. Either accept that the refs are human and capable of mistakes, or go the way of replay in a more effective way to ensure egregious mistakes aren't made.
- gravey914

Exactly. Was going to post that to 1stick. With every play being slowed down from multiple angles and social media, it isn't like the old days were people just accepted refs made mistakes. Either way(and I fall on the side of less replays) the league should come out and make a decision.

I realize what the concerns are. I think these major penalties are something that warrant review because the outcome of an incorrect call is gigantic. Let's face it, after Lemeuix major call, it pretty effectively ended the Rangers chances of ever coming back in that game. I don't think the foul review call in basketball or a target review in college football take too long. I hate the stoppages for reviews too, but for major penalties, it's such a vital moment in the game it warrants reviews.
- 2sticks1puck

Since they hand out a major anyway, have someone review the play while the guy is in the box. Within the 5 minutes of play time, Toronto should be able to make a decision if the play warrants an ejection. Takes the call out of the human eye errors and doesn't slow down the game.

Next up, world peace.

.11% of his salary. Very excessive.
- tomburton99

The equivalent of fining someone making $100k/yr $110

Exactly. Was going to post that to 1stick. With every play being slowed down from multiple angles and social media, it isn't like the old days were people just accepted refs made mistakes. Either way(and I fall on the side of less replays) the league should come out and make a decision.
- mdw7413

I'm with you 100%. I hate how replays slow the game down. I'll stick with whatever the league decides, but they need to be very public on their stance.

The equivalent of fining someone making $100k/yr $110
- eichiefs9

And this is why I think fines should somehow be related to a percentage of a player's salary.

Since they hand out a major anyway, have someone review the play while the guy is in the box. Within the 5 minutes of play time, Toronto should be able to make a decision if the play warrants an ejection. Takes the call out of the human eye errors and doesn't slow down the game.

Next up, world peace.
- Bean_Dip

Actually that wouldn't be a bad idea at all. No ejection until the 5 minutes is up.

Kreider fined 5k, per sportnet.
- tomburton99

I will pay it for him

The equivalent of fining someone making $100k/yr $110
- eichiefs9

it's a parking ticket

it's a parking ticket
- TPC

Less than a red light camera ticket in Nassau county

it's a parking ticket
- TPC

Didn't they have a whole show about parking tickets in Philly?

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- climbdenali12

.11% of his salary. Very excessive.
- tomburton99

Don't be a dolt. You know that I meant it was excessive that he faced any supplementary discipline.

Bold prediction: Kakko goes 1st overall. If you guys end up with the 2nd pick you may still be able to get Hughes.

Begging to differ on the Krieds call. The elbow was careless with no intent to injure. His back was to the player; he wasn’t targeting the head. Should have been a double-minor. Unfortunately, penalties are increasingly being called based on resulting injuries instead of actual infractions. The Lemieux call is a glaring case-in-point, and was crazy bad.

Begging to differ on the Krieds call. The elbow was careless with no intent to injure. His back was to the player; he wasn’t targeting the head. Should have been a double-minor. Unfortunately, penalties are increasingly being called based on resulting injuries instead of actual infractions. The Lemieux call is a glaring case-in-point, and was crazy bad.
- Bromancer

Careless/reckless without intent doesn't absolve you of responsibility to not injure other players. He got fined, not suspended. The ejection and fine fit the crime just fine.

No, I did not mean for the prior sentence to rhyme but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Careless/reckless without intent doesn't absolve you of responsibility to not injure other players. He got fined, not suspended. The ejection and fine fit the crime just fine.

No, I did not mean for the prior sentence to rhyme but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- eichiefs9

Begging to differ on the Krieds call. The elbow was careless with no intent to injure. His back was to the player; he wasn’t targeting the head. Should have been a double-minor. Unfortunately, penalties are increasingly being called based on resulting injuries instead of actual infractions. The Lemieux call is a glaring case-in-point, and was crazy bad.
- Bromancer

You are 100% accurate with your assessment on both the Kreider and Lemieux calls. However, the carelessness of Kreider in losing control and swinging his elbow recklessly, despite also not facing Petterson in having his back to him, is why he was fined. The fact that he wasn't suspended is further proof that if anything, the call should have been at greatest, a double minor only instead.

The call on Lemieux was ridiculous, and as Quinn stated after the game, "should not have been a penalty call at all, and nor would the ref give him an explanation why his major and game misconduct penalties were called". I wonder in contrast to Kreider, why Lemieux has not been at least fined for his incident. It would also surprise me if his penalty was not rescinded by the NHL, just like they immediately did on Zibanejad's similarly likewise, ridiculous called one in that recent game in Dallas.

But even greater so, the NHL has to start "penalizing" their own refs for some of these horrible calls made, despite them also consulting with each other and the linesmen when necessary at times prior to making them.

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- climbdenali12

You are 100% accurate with your assessment on both the Kreider and Lemieux calls. However, the carelessness of Kreider in losing control and swinging his elbow recklessly, despite also not facing Petterson in having his back to him, is why he was fined. The fact that he wasn't suspended is further proof that if anything, the call should have been at greatest, a double minor only instead.

The call on Lemieux was ridiculous, and as Quinn stated after the game, "should not have been a penalty call at all, and nor would the ref give him an explanation why his major and game misconduct penalties were called". I wonder in contrast to Kreider, why Lemieux has not been at least fined for his incident. It would also surprise me if his penalty was not rescinded by the NHL, just like they immediately did on Zibanejad's similarly likewise, ridiculous called one in that recent game in Dallas.

But even greater so, the NHL has to start "penalizing" their own refs for some of these horrible calls made, despite them also consulting with each other and the linesmen when necessary at times prior to making them.
- RangerSaver

Shorter and to the point Saver, see you have it in you god damn it

One thing lost in that loss to Vancouver is the Rangers' recent struggles on their power plays, despite Buch tallying his late power play goal to break their 0 FOR 25 skid on them in their last 8 games combined.

Trailing 3-0 early in the 3rd while having a 2 man advantage for 1:33 with a chance to get back into the game, displayed best the main reason for that horrible 0 FOR 25 skid. Despite Quinn having many games earlier worked them at practice to get more pucks to the net while on the PP and at even strength, the Rangers continually over passed the puck while in deep, in not registering their first and only shot taken at all during that 2 man advantage until just 21 seconds remained on it. Yes, it didn't help not being able to have Kreider in front of the net, but that is no excuse for no one wanting to shoot the puck.

One thing lost in that loss to Vancouver is the Rangers' recent struggles on their power plays, despite Buch tallying his late power play goal to break their 0 FOR 25 skid on them in their last 8 games combined.

Trailing 3-0 early in the 3rd while having a 2 man advantage for 1:33 with a chance to get back into the game, displayed best the main reason for that horrible 0 FOR 25 skid. Despite Quinn having many games earlier worked them at practice to get more pucks to the net while on the PP and at even strength, the Rangers continually over passed the puck while in deep, in not registering their first and only shot taken at all during that 2 man advantage until just 21 seconds remained on it. Yes, it didn't help not being able to have Kreider in front of the net, but that is no excuse for no one wanting to shoot the puck.
- RangerSaver

It was not lost. Every time they have the power play, someone on the broadcast, TV or Radio, or between periods was talking about it.

At first they talked about how the power play was generating chances but just not putting it in. More recently, they were admonishing the team for not shooting at all and not taking advantage of it.

Shorter and to the point Saver, see you have it in you god damn it
- Slimtj100

When asked after the game, Zib stated that he "shouldn't talk about the reffing" as to that terrible call on Lemieux.
But during the game, Leivo took his revenge out on Namestnikov for his earlier hit on him, in crosschecking Namestnikov right on his back while he was just about ready to step foot on the bench after his shift had ended. John Giannone told Sam and Joe after Leivo was penalized for 2:00, that Zib in being upset for those two earlier calls made against the Rangers, had yelled at the ref, "why wasn't that also a 5:00 major and game misconduct?".