It was an accusation by 1 person. So your idea is if 1 person makes an accusation against you, you are what that person says and its your job to prove your not? So if Tom calls you a racist you are a racist till you can prove to everyone your not?
- mdw7413

https://www.dailywire.com...stic-abuser-it-ashe-schow

I totally see your point and I agree. I just assume that the accusation of that one person was investigated before it was reported to the masses. I could be completely wrong about this and I admit that.
- Tonybere

Yeah, I mean could it be true, possibly, I just hate when there is an accusation and somehow that becomes a persons label. And the fact you made me defend Guy Fieri who I really dislike.

Yeah. You realize that what Kreider did and what Malkin did are the same thing right? Kreider just hit Pettersson in the face with his elbow instead of the ear with his stick.

Carry on.
- tomburton99

I have no idea what Malkin did. Haven't seen it.
What I was saying was that when Kreider (recklessly) swung his arm out it was done with the intention of making sure Pettersson didn't completely avoid the hit, which he almost did. Not with the intention of making sure he injured him. Unless I'm mistaken, that is what the game misconduct is applied for, conscious intent to injure.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/44616/people-believed-johnny-depp-was-domestic-abuser-it-ashe-schow


- eichiefs9

Lets be honest, everyone should have known this. Johnny Depp looks like he couldn't rip a wet napkin in half

I have no idea what Malkin did. Haven't seen it.
What I was saying was that when Kreider (recklessly) swung his arm out it was done with the intention of making sure Pettersson didn't completely avoid the hit, which he almost did. Not with the intention of making sure he injured him. Unless I'm mistaken, that is what the game misconduct is applied for, conscious intent to injure.
- Tonybere

Yup, why there should be no extra discipline

Lets be honest, everyone should have known this. Johnny Depp looks like he couldn't rip a wet napkin in half
- mdw7413

I really think the internet SJW culture bubble is going to burst soon and it's going to be glorious.

Lets be honest, everyone should have known this. Johnny Depp looks like he couldn't rip a wet napkin in half
- mdw7413

Your bias against thin people is deeply unsettling.

The Leimeux major is ridiculous, it looked bad because he was hurt laying on the ice. Refs see that and they ASSUMED it was a major and / or an attempt to injure. Its just amazing how bad the officials are these days, not just in ranger games, it’s actually in all of sports lol It has to be frustrating tho playing in games like this where something almost accidental gets you a game misconduct. 2 minute interference is even tough to call on that smh

Kreider was just giving an extra shot that happened to wallop him in the nose. More stupidity then anything

I really think the internet SJW culture bubble is going to burst soon and it's going to be glorious.
- eichiefs9

Oh I hope so.

Your bias against thin people is deeply unsettling.
- tomburton99

You make Depp look like a body builder

The Leimeux major is ridiculous, it looked bad because he was hurt laying on the ice. Refs see that and they ASSUMED it was a major and / or an attempt to injure. Its just amazing how bad the officials are these days, not just in ranger games, it’s actually in all of sports lol It has to be frustrating tho playing in games like this where something almost accidental gets you a game misconduct. 2 minute interference is even tough to call on that smh

Kreider was just giving an extra shot that happened to wallop him in the nose. More stupidity then anything
- Slimtj100

Kreider's was reckless. Need to be in control of your body. I've seen plays like that go for a double-minor, but I had no problem with the major.
Lemieux's, the ref's reacted to the result rather than the actual play. What baffles me is that the 4 officials got together to discuss it and still came to the wrong decision.

Kreider's was reckless. Need to be in control of your body. I've seen plays like that go for a double-minor, but I had no problem with the major.
Lemieux's, the ref's reacted to the result rather than the actual play. What baffles me is that the 4 officials got together to discuss it and still came to the wrong decision.
- gravey914

The play looked bad in real-time and it resulted in a pretty nasty injury. The refs can't look up at the scoreboard video to change their call so I won't totally kill them for upholding it. But yea, in retrospect that was a pretty bad call.

I have no idea what Malkin did. Haven't seen it.
What I was saying was that when Kreider (recklessly) swung his arm out it was done with the intention of making sure Pettersson didn't completely avoid the hit, which he almost did. Not with the intention of making sure he injured him. Unless I'm mistaken, that is what the game misconduct is applied for, conscious intent to injure.
- Tonybere

100% spot on!

The play looked bad in real-time and it resulted in a pretty nasty injury. The refs can't look up at the scoreboard video to change their call so I won't totally kill them for upholding it. But yea, in retrospect that was a pretty bad call.
- eichiefs9

This. It's why I said before I'd like a review system like flagrants in bball. There are plenty of bad decisions NHL referees make throughout the season, but I'm not sure in real time how they reasonably could have made any other call initially. Let them review it, then make the appropriate call.

This. It's why I said before I'd like a review system like flagrants in bball. There are plenty of bad decisions NHL referees make throughout the season, but I'm not sure in real time how they reasonably could have made any other call initially. Let them review it, then make the appropriate call.
- 2sticks1puck

Not that I think anything you said is unfair, but I'm getting tired of reviews. It's already made the NFL utterly unwatchable and I don't want that to happen in hockey.

Watching blurry replays for 5 minutes to see if someone's skate was an 1/8" over the blueline or off the ice to make it offsides is absolutely terrible. If I have to start watching that every time someone gets assessed a major penalty I'll blow my brains out.

This. It's why I said before I'd like a review system like flagrants in bball. There are plenty of bad decisions NHL referees make throughout the season, but I'm not sure in real time how they reasonably could have made any other call initially. Let them review it, then make the appropriate call.
- 2sticks1puck

As bad as the reffing can be, I really don't want the game slowed down at all. I actually only want replays for a puck across a goal line. imo

This. It's why I said before I'd like a review system like flagrants in bball. There are plenty of bad decisions NHL referees make throughout the season, but I'm not sure in real time how they reasonably could have made any other call initially. Let them review it, then make the appropriate call.
- 2sticks1puck

Honestly, with how bad some calls have been this year, I'm totally for an additional video review ref. I know it's basically what they do in Toronto, but it might be easier if they just have a ref sitting in at the scorer's booth able to instantly review any questionable calls.

As bad as the reffing can be, I really don't want the game slowed down at all. I actually only want replays for a puck across a goal line. imo
- mdw7413

I realize what the concerns are. I think these major penalties are something that warrant review because the outcome of an incorrect call is gigantic. Let's face it, after Lemeuix major call, it pretty effectively ended the Rangers chances of ever coming back in that game. I don't think the foul review call in basketball or a target review in college football take too long. I hate the stoppages for reviews too, but for major penalties, it's such a vital moment in the game it warrants reviews.

100% spot on!
- 21peter

Natch.

As bad as the reffing can be, I really don't want the game slowed down at all. I actually only want replays for a puck across a goal line. imo
- mdw7413

If the officials are getting together anyway, might as well add a 5th official whose sole job is to instantly look at any questionable plays. It's basically what Toronto does, but with an in-house official.

I realize what the concerns are. I think these major penalties are something that warrant review because the outcome of an incorrect call is gigantic. Let's face it, after Lemeuix major call, it pretty effectively ended the Rangers chances of ever coming back in that game. I don't think the foul review call in basketball or a target review in college football take too long. I hate the stoppages for reviews too, but for major penalties, it's such a vital moment in the game it warrants reviews.
- 2sticks1puck

I get what you are saying, and it would really suck if a major is assessed to a team thats fighting for a playoff spot and that effectively ends their season. I just hate the stoppages. Maybe they can just get better refs.

Kreider fined 5k, per sportnet.

Kreider fined 5k, per sportnet.
- tomburton99

Excessive, IMO. But, realistically that is like fining one of us $1.85.

If the officials are getting together anyway, might as well add a 5th official whose sole job is to instantly look at any questionable plays. It's basically what Toronto does, but with an in-house official.
- gravey914

My issue with this is intent can be subjective, so even with a review it might still be a ridiculous call depending on who is reviewing it. I mean something like the Brasheer McSorley incident, yeah pretty blatant intent, but something that looks a certain way in real time can look worse or better in slo motion.

Excessive, IMO. But, realistically that is like fining one of us $1.85.
- Tonybere

.11% of his salary. Very excessive.