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HockeyBuzz Wire
Joined: 01.22.2009

Mar 13 @ 1:13 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Wire: Bettman upholds Voracek's two game suspension
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 13 @ 1:16 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Wire: Bettman upholds Voracek's two game suspension
- hockeybuzz_wire

DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Mar 13 @ 1:21 PM ET
will this impact the HB projected standings?
mgriffen
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 1:37 PM ET
Bettman got involved? The guy knows even less about hockey than Ek
Coburns_Nose
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Coburn's face
Joined: 11.16.2012

Mar 13 @ 1:42 PM ET
If a player with no prior supplemental discipline history gets 2 games for that I'm surprised we aren't seeing longer suspensions around the league

just some consistency please
Maverick1818
Ottawa Senators
Location: PEI
Joined: 02.06.2015

Mar 13 @ 1:46 PM ET
You know, it's funny.

I always blindly hated Bettman because everyone seems to. But as I get older, I love the way he handles things. his no BS way of getting involved.

The NHL as never been richer than under his watch.
For example - Teams like Ottawa that have terrible owners have been reassured by Bettman that if the team is sold, it's 100% staying in Ottawa.

and he doesn't seem to cave in when he easily could have reduced this to one game
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:10 PM ET
will this impact the HB projected standings?
- DeflatedPucks

Flyers will now win the division
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 13 @ 2:16 PM ET
You know, it's funny.

I always blindly hated Bettman because everyone seems to. But as I get older, I love the way he handles things. his no BS way of getting involved.

The NHL as never been richer than under his watch.
For example - Teams like Ottawa that have terrible owners have been reassured by Bettman that if the team is sold, it's 100% staying in Ottawa.

and he doesn't seem to cave in when he easily could have reduced this to one game

- Maverick1818

You mean like making decisions and/or rulings based on facts and not guesses that Boychuk was going to run him from behind?

dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Mar 13 @ 2:31 PM ET
You mean like making decisions and/or rulings based on facts and not guesses that Boychuk was going to run him from behind?


- eichiefs9


If the play runs it's course without Jake stopping Boychuk is ramming him into the boards with a hit right between the numbers. Boychuk's momentum makes it happen. There's no guess involved.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:42 PM ET
If the play runs it's course without Jake stopping Boychuk is ramming him into the boards with a hit right between the numbers. Boychuk's momentum makes it happen. There's no guess involved.
- dragonoffrost

That didn't happen so its speculation. Take off the homer glasses.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:43 PM ET
HockeyBuzz Wire: Bettman upholds Voracek's two game suspension
- hockeybuzz_wire

He's a Flyer so guilt by association means this shouldn't have even gone to Bettman. Gudas I'm sure is very proud of his protege.
leonkennedy
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 3 cups in 5 years = DYNASTY
Joined: 04.13.2012

Mar 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
Flyers will now win the division
- Feds91Stammer

And they will do so by somehow playing 4 more games than the rest of the team's in the league.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 13 @ 2:45 PM ET
If the play runs it's course without Jake stopping Boychuk is ramming him into the boards with a hit right between the numbers. Boychuk's momentum makes it happen. There's no guess involved.
- dragonoffrost

Except for the fact that, you know.....it didn't happen
bulet13
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Faceoffs, Plus/Minus, and PIMs...the Holy Trinity, TX
Joined: 03.10.2013

Mar 13 @ 2:52 PM ET
Fine with a one game suspension but don't think it deserved two. Just more consistency please in how suspensions are given out would be nice but we will never get that
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Mar 13 @ 3:14 PM ET
Fine with a one game suspension but don't think it deserved two. Just more consistency please in how suspensions are given out would be nice but we will never get that
- bulet13


Exactly this should have been a 1 game. The second game is bogus seeing everything else recently.

Hathaway
Malkin
Mantha
The Devils Minor League goon.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
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Mar 13 @ 3:15 PM ET
Except for the fact that, you know.....it didn't happen
- eichiefs9


It didn't happen because Jake made sure it didn't and if you haven't seen that kind of play before you are lying.

If I'm seeing a guy coming to lay a hit that will concuss me you would be damn sure I'd hit them first. I'll take the in game penalty and walk away rather than be concussed. I've had enough to know it's not something I want again.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 13 @ 3:20 PM ET
It didn't happen because Jake made sure it didn't and if you haven't seen that kind of play before you are lying.
- dragonoffrost

Sure, and he made no effort to play the puck and injured a guy in the process. Hence the two game suspension. I'm not really understanding why so many people can't grasp the notion that facts are the only things relevant in these hearings.

Opinions and speculation about things that didn't happen are irrelevant. Have whatever opinion you want, but if you're surprised that the league didn't change their ruling because Boychuk, who has exactly zero suspensions ever, may have boarded him from behind then I can't help you.

If players are allowed to cause injury to guys they perceive might hurt them then I'm sure you won't complain if someone preemptively tomahawks a cro magnon knuckle-dragger like Gudas directly in the face because that's a guy with a long history of dangerous, stupid plays.
dragonoffrost
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Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
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Mar 13 @ 3:24 PM ET
Sure, and he made no effort to play the puck and injured a guy in the process. Hence the two game suspension. I'm not really understanding why so many people can't grasp the notion that facts are the only things relevant in these hearings.

Opinions and speculation about things that didn't happen are irrelevant. Have whatever opinion you want, but if you're surprised that the league didn't change their ruling because Boychuk, who has exactly zero suspensions ever, may have boarded him from behind then I can't help you.

If players are allowed to cause injury to guys they perceive might hurt them then I'm sure you won't complain if someone preemptively tomahawks a cro magnon knuckle-dragger like Gudas directly in the face because that's a guy with a long history of dangerous, stupid plays.

- eichiefs9


See my other post before the one you replied to 1 game is what it should have been based on the others I listed. 2 games was excessive. Hell even Eichel's hit was worse and he got 2.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 3:29 PM ET
Exactly this should have been a 1 game. The second game is bogus seeing everything else recently.

Hathaway
Malkin
Mantha
The Devils Minor League goon.

- dragonoffrost

What about Giroux hitting Mantha in the back of the head?
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: Former star of the popular 'Meat Spin' video , NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Mar 13 @ 3:30 PM ET
See my other post before the one you replied to 1 game is what it should have been based on the others I listed. 2 games was excessive. Hell even Eichel's hit was worse and he got 2.
- dragonoffrost

I'm not arguing that the league is always consistent in their discipline, but I don't really think that this one is way off-base. In this particular case, it's pretty consistent with the way they've doled out supplemental discipline in the past.

Had he been ejected from the game I think he only would've been suspended for one game. But he wasn't, so that accounts for one game's worth of the suspension.

The 2nd game comes from the fact that the play caused an injury. Boychuk still hasn't skated since the hit.

That's how they handle most of these things these days. The in-game discipline was insufficient, so he serves a game for that and he serves a game for an illegal hit that caused an injury.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
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Mar 13 @ 3:37 PM ET
What about Giroux hitting Mantha in the back of the head?
- Feds91Stammer


Giroux hits Mantha lower than the head and then Mantha doubles over which send G over him. Then Mantha blatantly cross checks him into the boards. Hockey play that then becomes a dirty retaliatory play.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Mar 13 @ 3:38 PM ET
Giroux hits Mantha lower than the head and then Mantha doubles over which send G over him. Then Mantha blatantly cross checks him into the boards. Hockey play that then becomes a dirty retaliatory play.

- dragonoffrost

Girouxs forearm definitely hit the back of Manthas head. Hence the retaliation.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
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Mar 13 @ 3:46 PM ET
Girouxs forearm definitely hit the back of Manthas head. Hence the retaliation.
- Feds91Stammer


Contact before that was lower ... the follow through goes to the back of the head as Mantha goes down. If Mantha didn't like it square up with him, don't cross check him into the boards.
Nelson19777
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Trail, BC
Joined: 03.05.2013

Mar 13 @ 3:46 PM ET
(dragonoffrost) ..... I've had enough to know it's not something I want again.


Now I understand where your previous comments come from.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Mar 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
Except for the fact that, you know.....it didn't happen
- eichiefs9


Facts don't matter. Hypotheticals do.
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