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Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:18 PM ET
Wasting 2 faceoff wins sucks, and you might be right about the weak side winger flying the zone, but to me the worst thing was getting rid of the puck blindly. Both 7+2 did this. That's why it was a little more exciting than it should have been.
- 6628

Keith most likely did or thought he could get it by the winger before he got to the boards. My first reaction on the Seabs play was the same.After the replay a couple of times, think we have to give the Leaf forward some credit. His disrupted Seabs attempt at clearing and didn't allow him to follow though. Sure he could have been stronger on the puck or maybe tried to reverse it but the Leaf player made a play there.

or at least what it looked likt to me.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:44 PM ET
Keith most likely did or thought he could get it by the winger before he got to the boards. My first reaction on the Seabs play was the same.After the replay a couple of times, think we have to give the Leaf forward some credit. His disrupted Seabs attempt at clearing and didn't allow him to follow though. Sure he could have been stronger on the puck or maybe tried to reverse it but the Leaf player made a play there.

or at least what it looked likt to me.

- Elbows15


What's up, dog?
Elbows15
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: I was going to do the math on this but I don't think it will help., IL
Joined: 08.04.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:52 PM ET
What's up, dog?
- mohel

Getting all doomed up. You?

mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 8:56 PM ET
Getting all doomed up. You?
- Elbows15


Got my quota!
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location:
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 14 @ 8:57 PM ET
One crap period - in a win, no less - and the same posters talking about playoffs the other day have swung back to doom.
- mohel

The problem is these posters you talk about don't sit back and judge the teams over 10, 20 or 30 games they do it game by game, period by period and play by play it's bi-polar fandom.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:09 PM ET
Perhaps perspective will be that we are so thankful on what we have with all the goal scoring - which includes two scoring lines - if you consider the exploits of some other forwards around NHL ponds

Of course the other teams have better defense. Of course we know scoring is affected by the five man unit on ice with the forwards. And we recognize the coaching as it affects the scorers too.

Goals:

Wheeler 24; JVR 20 in 53 gp; Kessell 23; Toffoli 12; Radulov 21 in 57 gp; Seguin 27; Benn 25; Skinner 36 in 59 gp; Aho 30; Forsberg 24 in 53 gp; O'Reilly 26; Couture 24; Pavelski 37; Tarasenko 28; Hertl 31; Crosby 33; Pasternak 31 in 56 gp; Panarin 25; Barkov 30; Tavarez 37;
Mathews 32; Laine 29; Guentzel 36

I surely left out a few (we all know Ovechkin leads with like 45; Draisalti has about 31?) but our guys do not look too shabby in comparison.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:17 PM ET
Post of the day!!!!
- mohel

Is that not the same guy who was burying Toews last year ,and the year before .
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:22 PM ET
The problem is these posters you talk about don't sit back and judge the teams over 10, 20 or 30 games they do it game by game, period by period and play by play it's bi-polar fandom.
- paulr


Along those lines....Blues down to the Sens and Lightning down 2 to the wings. How can those teams expect any post-season success with efforts like that?
AusHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Melbourne
Joined: 11.25.2015

Mar 14 @ 9:27 PM ET
Along those lines....Blues down to the Sens and Lightning down 2 to the wings. How can those teams expect any post-season success with efforts like that?
- mohel


Haven't you been reading PowerEnforcers posts? Bettman and league parity will take care of that for them. Or something along those lines
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:28 PM ET
Next season assuming Boqvist plays in London in the Ontario Junior League, I wonder how Hunter sets him up to further develop. I bet Chicago is happy with the guidance from Hunter. I know that Bouchard, taken in round one too will not return in his pairing.

Boqvist has to learn or work on a few things.
Beaver-Warrior
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: A new era of Blackhawks hockey
Joined: 07.28.2011

Mar 14 @ 9:29 PM ET
We're doomed.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:29 PM ET
Is that not the same guy who was burying Toews last year ,and the year before .
- oldduffman


Could be.

It's not that Johnny didn't earn some criticism the last couple seasons - he did. What was interesting was how he was dogged by some alleged Hawks fans; and how those who hoped for a rebound were ridiculed by those who were sure he was a washed up bum.
jhawk59
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:31 PM ET
Haven't you been reading PowerEnforcers posts? Bettman and league parity will take care of that for them. Or something along those lines
- AusHawk


Hard to win each night in a cramped schedule. Hard to get up for each game when you have a comfortable lead in standings (Tampa). The Blues are playing without injured star Tarasenko. Parity is not a wide gap so if one team plays harder and wants it more....
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location:
Joined: 06.26.2011

Mar 14 @ 9:32 PM ET
Next season assuming Boqvist plays in London in the Ontario Junior League, I wonder how Hunter sets him up to further develop. I bet Chicago is happy with the guidance from Hunter. I know that Bouchard, taken in round one too will not return in his pairing.

Boqvist has to learn or work on a few things.

- jhawk59


Does anyone know if the Blackhawks have any input with London as to Boqvist's development?
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:37 PM ET
Does anyone know if the Blackhawks have any input with London as to Boqvist's development?
- paulr


If Hunter doesn't play along, Stan sends Ray Donovan to have a chat with him.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Mar 14 @ 9:38 PM ET
Keith most likely did or thought he could get it by the winger before he got to the boards. My first reaction on the Seabs play was the same.After the replay a couple of times, think we have to give the Leaf forward some credit. His disrupted Seabs attempt at clearing and didn't allow him to follow though. Sure he could have been stronger on the puck or maybe tried to reverse it but the Leaf player made a play there.

or at least what it looked likt to me.

- Elbows15




They were making them all 3rd period. Agree Seabrook could have been stronger. But Keith had time and didn't even look. It could be that the video coach of the Leafs gave some input on tendencies. They were winning faceoffs when it counted the most and then butchered it, that's what's the most frustrating. We'll see if something was learned going forward.
mohel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.08.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:41 PM ET
The level of discourse always rises when 6628 enters the joint.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 14 @ 9:42 PM ET
23 teams give up over 30 shots against per game. The Hawks have given up only 2 more shots per game then Tampa. It is not the total shots against, it is where the shots come from. You are right about the penalty killing, the Hawks have the worst save percentage on the penalty kill in the league.
- LAHawk


And who shoots them, most importantly, I'd much rather face a shot from Kruger than Debrincat.

I still don't understand the defensive responsibilities on the PK, Toews goes with the pass and leaves a wide open lane from center ice is the other forward suppose to rotate but then that leaves the opposite wall side forward wide open?
EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Mar 14 @ 9:51 PM ET
Next season assuming Boqvist plays in London in the Ontario Junior League, I wonder how Hunter sets him up to further develop. I bet Chicago is happy with the guidance from Hunter. I know that Bouchard, taken in round one too will not return in his pairing.

Boqvist has to learn or work on a few things.

- jhawk59


Even though Bouchard and Boqvist were both drafted in 2018, Bouchard is almost a full calendar year older than Boqvist and this is Bouchard's 4th season with London. Bouchard has 13 goals and 49 points in 43 games and Boqvist has 20 goals and 59 points in 52 games. Bouchard has a better +/- with a +30 where Boqvist has a +15.

I know Boqvist has some things to work on but offense isn't one of them.
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 14 @ 9:54 PM ET
The problem is these posters you talk about don't sit back and judge the teams over 10, 20 or 30 games they do it game by game, period by period and play by play it's bi-polar fandom.
- paulr


Guilty, i prefer, in the moment rather than bipolaršŸ˜

AEL_Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 06.18.2016

Mar 14 @ 9:58 PM ET
Does anyone know if the Blackhawks have any input with London as to Boqvist's development?
- paulr

I imagine to some degree, yes, since there have been articles recently that stated the Hawks have no interest in Londonā€™s idea to try him at forward.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:00 PM ET
Could be.

It's not that Johnny didn't earn some criticism the last couple seasons - he did. What was interesting was how he was dogged by some alleged Hawks fans; and how those who hoped for a rebound were ridiculed by those who were sure he was a washed up bum.

- mohel

Ya Hope is a dirty 4 letter word around here
AEL_Fox
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: CA
Joined: 06.18.2016

Mar 14 @ 10:01 PM ET
Even though Bouchard and Boqvist were both drafted in 2018, Bouchard is almost a full calendar year older than Boqvist and this is Bouchard's 4th season with London. Bouchard has 13 goals and 49 points in 43 games and Boqvist has 20 goals and 59 points in 52 games. Bouchard has a better +/- with a +30 where Boqvist has a +15.

I know Boqvist has some things to work on but offense isn't one of them.

- EbonyRaptor

Bouchard is also markedly better at defending than Boqvist so that should help his stock in terms of being NHL ready. I can see Bouchardā€™s comparable being Seabrook like if he hits potential.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Mar 14 @ 10:02 PM ET
Even though Bouchard and Boqvist were both drafted in 2018, Bouchard is almost a full calendar year older than Boqvist and this is Bouchard's 4th season with London. Bouchard has 13 goals and 49 points in 43 games and Boqvist has 20 goals and 59 points in 52 games. Bouchard has a better +/- with a +30 where Boqvist has a +15.

I know Boqvist has some things to work on but offense isn't one of them.

- EbonyRaptor

Boqvist has the tools that you can't teach ,London is the perfect place to learn the ones you can .
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 14 @ 10:04 PM ET
Man oh man my heart goes out to Evander Kane and his family.
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