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breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Mar 14 @ 3:20 PM ET
Big leads have dissipated quite a bit this year, most recently Columbus was beating Boston 5-1 in the second, by the end of the second it was 5-4 before Columbus ended up winning 7-4.
- LAHawk


It is definitely feels like a trend that not many leads are safe.
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 14 @ 3:25 PM ET
It is definitely feels like a trend that not many leads are safe.
- breadbag


What the NHL (and the fans) want. Rule changes on interference, stick in the hands, not being able to freeze the puck, etc. all were intended in generating more offense, similar to the NFL and their changed definition of pass interference, not being able to bump the receiver, etc.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 14 @ 3:32 PM ET
Ok, why do the Hogs need 4 goalies?
bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Mar 14 @ 3:36 PM ET
Delia faced 30 shots because he’s a rebound machine. He reminds me of one of those pitching machines, only with him you put pucks in and you have no idea where the puck’s coming out. You just have to be ready to swat it in or swat it away depending which team you’re on.
- walleyeb1


many of you are hammering delia on his rebound control...

only 1 of the 3 goals he gave up were off of rebounds and that one is suspect

1. he makes 2 sprawling saves with a guy at the crease and mathews banks it off of strome...he suppose have rebound control there??
2. pp deflection off a lost faceoff
3. traveras scores on a jam after a poor clearing attempt by keith long the boards after a faceoff win

in the final minute:

1 murphy fails to clear 2x leading to turnovers: leading to 3 great chances and a scramble/pileup and somehow the puck does not go in...oh and goalie int not called
2. delia with a wrap around save followed by a save from the high slot
3. seab with another poor clearing attempt and turnover
4. a mid slot tip knuckler very difficult to control; yet he made the save..
5. kruger also failed to clear to another

not to mention the open net chances they missed prior to the traveras goal...

delia was not the problem...





bogiedoc
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: VA
Joined: 09.27.2011

Mar 14 @ 3:38 PM ET
It is definitely feels like a trend that not many leads are safe.
- breadbag


not this year...scoring is up...comebacks are the norm; big mo shifts with in games come out of nowhere
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 14 @ 3:50 PM ET
many of you are hammering delia on his rebound control...

only 1 of the 3 goals he gave up were off of rebounds and that one is suspect

1. he makes 2 sprawling saves with a guy at the crease and mathews banks it off of strome...he suppose have rebound control there??
2. pp deflection off a lost faceoff
3. traveras scores on a jam after a poor clearing attempt by keith long the boards after a faceoff win

in the final minute:

1 murphy fails to clear 2x leading to turnovers: leading to 3 great chances and a scramble/pileup and somehow the puck does not go in...oh and goalie int not called
2. delia with a wrap around save followed by a save from the high slot
3. seab with another poor clearing attempt and turnover
4. a mid slot tip knuckler very difficult to control; yet he made the save..
5. kruger also failed to clear to another

not to mention the open net chances they missed prior to the traveras goal...

delia was not the problem...

- bogiedoc

I think the point was many of the 30 shots were on rebounds, not necessarily the goals.
BobP.
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 12.29.2010

Mar 14 @ 3:57 PM ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNx4yRoFpKs
- LAHawk



Yep, I know. If you watch closely, when the skater comes out from behind the net, there's a fairly good opening that is sort of triangular in shape between the arm, top of the pad, and the body. How many times have you seen a goalie do exactly as shown in the video, only to have the puck wind up in the net. The goaltender then looks all around, bewildered. Bet if he was up and was adept at protecting his 5 hole, that doesn't go in.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Mar 14 @ 4:14 PM ET
many of you are hammering delia on his rebound control...

only 1 of the 3 goals he gave up were off of rebounds and that one is suspect

1. he makes 2 sprawling saves with a guy at the crease and mathews banks it off of strome...he suppose have rebound control there??
2. pp deflection off a lost faceoff
3. traveras scores on a jam after a poor clearing attempt by keith long the boards after a faceoff win

in the final minute:

1 murphy fails to clear 2x leading to turnovers: leading to 3 great chances and a scramble/pileup and somehow the puck does not go in...oh and goalie int not called
2. delia with a wrap around save followed by a save from the high slot
3. seab with another poor clearing attempt and turnover
4. a mid slot tip knuckler very difficult to control; yet he made the save..
5. kruger also failed to clear to another

not to mention the open net chances they missed prior to the traveras goal...

delia was not the problem...

- bogiedoc




That's pretty much what I saw.
oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Mar 14 @ 4:16 PM ET
I think the point was many of the 30 shots were on rebounds, not necessarily the goals.
- riozzo

Ya I have said for sometime Delia dose not hold the puck enough .both Ward and Crow are not afraid to hold the puck for a whistle .Last night the whole team played different when Crow went down .I still believe Forsberg should have been given a better shake at the start of the year after a good camp ,and Ward carrying a .850 SV % .I hope they resign Forsberg, believe he has more upside then Delia .
Abadseed
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Arlington hts, IL
Joined: 01.20.2014

Mar 14 @ 4:19 PM ET
Ok, why do the Hogs need 4 goalies?
- riozzo

They going to try two on the ice at once before they try it with ward and crow
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 14 @ 4:21 PM ET
They going to try two on the ice at once before they try it with ward and crow
- Abadseed

oldduffman
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.06.2013

Mar 14 @ 4:23 PM ET
Yep, I know. If you watch closely, when the skater comes out from behind the net, there's a fairly good opening that is sort of triangular in shape between the arm, top of the pad, and the body. How many times have you seen a goalie do exactly as shown in the video, only to have the puck wind up in the net. The goaltender then looks all around, bewildered. Bet if he was up and was adept at protecting his 5 hole, that doesn't go in.
- BobP.

Even after Keith clearing was knocked down the team had plenty of coverage low ,Delia should never have let that one in . And If Kane got a slashing call for his tap tap of the stick ,then some of the whacks on Murphy and Seebs should have been called late . HAWKS played a great game ,if it were the HAWKS trying to make that come back, most on here would have said the other team took their foot off the gas . I sure hope Crow is back and healthy as some of his best games are played in Montreal
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Mar 14 @ 4:29 PM ET
Yep, I know. If you watch closely, when the skater comes out from behind the net, there's a fairly good opening that is sort of triangular in shape between the arm, top of the pad, and the body. How many times have you seen a goalie do exactly as shown in the video, only to have the puck wind up in the net. The goaltender then looks all around, bewildered. Bet if he was up and was adept at protecting his 5 hole, that doesn't go in.
- BobP.


I agree, plus one size doesn't fit all, it may work for someone or some, but that don't mean everyone should do it, they are playing goalie, not being a robot.
BobP.
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Joliet, IL
Joined: 12.29.2010

Mar 14 @ 4:34 PM ET
I agree, plus one size doesn't fit all, it may work for someone or some, but that don't mean everyone should do it, they are playing goalie, not being a robot.
- LAHawk


Agreed
savvyone-1
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Living large on the ISLE, IL
Joined: 03.04.2011

Mar 14 @ 4:57 PM ET
Now you want to try Aer Lingus don't you?
- paulr

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Or maybe you want to whole skit?
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 14 @ 5:20 PM ET
Roenick on the score saying it's tough watching Keith and Seabrook, they have so many miles on them and it shows, i do agree with him
-Doh-
Location: VA
Joined: 10.05.2015

Mar 14 @ 5:30 PM ET
I think the point was many of the 30 shots were on rebounds, not necessarily the goals.
- riozzo


And if he secured the puck it might have been easier to regroup after a faceoff. At least it would have broken their momentum.
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 14 @ 5:33 PM ET
And if he secured the puck it might have been easier to regroup after a faceoff. At least it would have broken their momentum.
- -Doh-



The good news is he is young and should learn better rebound control. I remember when Crow tried to play the puck early in his career, it was a turnover looking for a place to happen...
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 14 @ 5:35 PM ET
And if he secured the puck it might have been easier to regroup after a faceoff. At least it would have broken their momentum.
- -Doh-


But they still won
riozzo
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Cornwallis Island
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 14 @ 5:39 PM ET
But they still won
- BetweenTheDots

That is like asking someone who survived a failed parachute opening, "but did you die?" The answer is obvious but do you want to try that again - heck no.
HawkintheD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Sick Bay, MI
Joined: 02.22.2012

Mar 14 @ 5:50 PM ET
Roenick on the score saying it's tough watching Keith and Seabrook, they have so many miles on them and it shows, i do agree with him
- BetweenTheDots


Also talked about the Yutes, particularly 17, 11, and 12 and some cause for optimism next season
EnzoD
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Denver, CO
Joined: 02.19.2014

Mar 14 @ 5:55 PM ET
Roenick on the score saying it's tough watching Keith and Seabrook, they have so many miles on them and it shows, i do agree with him
- BetweenTheDots


yeah but us here at HockeyBuzz who criticize Seabrook are blashphemers and don't know what we're talking about. Anyone without Rose Colored 2010 Cup Glasses On can see where their games are. Keith is probably a #4 and Seabrook a #6 on good teams.
GPHawksfan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Grande Prairie, AB
Joined: 01.26.2018

Mar 14 @ 6:01 PM ET
yeah but us here at HockeyBuzz who criticize Seabrook are blashphemers and don't know what we're talking about. Anyone without Rose Colored 2010 Cup Glasses On can see where their games are. Keith is probably a #4 and Seabrook a #6 on good teams.
- EnzoD

Well they're stuck with them so all the snivelling whiners should just get used to it
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 14 @ 6:13 PM ET
That is like asking someone who survived a failed parachute opening, "but did you die?" The answer is obvious but do you want to try that again - heck no.
- riozzo


No, Not really like that, a rookie goalie who had no help and held on to the win
BetweenTheDots
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 06.13.2015

Mar 14 @ 6:19 PM ET
yeah but us here at HockeyBuzz who criticize Seabrook are blashphemers and don't know what we're talking about. Anyone without Rose Colored 2010 Cup Glasses On can see where their games are. Keith is probably a #4 and Seabrook a #6 on good teams.
- EnzoD


I just happen to agree with Jeremy, i really appreciate everything they've done but for me it is tough watching them in a sense of what they were and now what they are.
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