Should be Johnson. Will likely be Pettersson.
- Victoro311

Yeah. There were times in Gudbranson's time in Vancouver, when he should have been benched (I seem to remember him being on ice for 5 GA against either Toronto or Columbus) but due to the injuries that plagued the Canuck's defense, with both Edler and Tanev being hurt, Green was forced to play him. He and Pouliot formed a particularly horrific pairing, and Pouliot still shows signs of being a poope defenseman.

Did you want Pouliot back too? Please?

...except Tommy Knucks had better hands...and thats saying something haha
- MattStrat

Dudes career high was 5 goals. That dude didn’t have poop.

Dudes career high was 5 goals. That dude didn’t have poop.
- j.boyd919

You don’t remember the odd Kuhnhackl break where he’d pull moves completely out of his ass?

I don't see where he said he would deter anything?

Since you are a bit of a dummy though go find a "Cheapshots against per 60" stat and come back to me with the result. Deter =|= prevent, they are two separate things. Until you find numbers that tell a different story, I will make the case that Gud has in fact deterred cheap shots.
- MacPatty

You make it too easy

Yeah. There were times in Gudbranson's time in Vancouver, when he should have been benched (I seem to remember him being on ice for 5 GA against either Toronto or Columbus) but due to the injuries that plagued the Canuck's defense, with both Edler and Tanev being hurt, Green was forced to play him. He and Pouliot formed a particularly horrific pairing, and Pouliot still shows signs of being a poope defenseman.

Did you want Pouliot back too? Please?
- Slip and slap

No (frank) DP. He’s terrible.

Dude, you’re seriously reaching Aussie level stubbornness. Is it deliberate? Your question was answered clear as day.
- Rinosaur

Not really though. Protecting happens when there is a scrum and someone goes after Crosby. Stop trying to infer that JR mean no one on the Pens will get hit because they have Gud.

Stubborn is reaching to find a reason to criticize a guy who everyone wants to hate because "advanced stats".

Dudes career high was 5 goals. That dude didn’t have poop.
- j.boyd919

hahaha ...well....Wilson has one goal with 15 games left, also none in 34 games he played with the Panthers. He did however have 40 goals/46 assists in 66 games one season in the OHL though...

Not really though. Protecting happens when there is a scrum and someone goes after Crosby. Stop trying to infer that JR mean no one on the Pens will get hit because they have Gud.

Stubborn is reaching to find a reason to criticize a guy who everyone wants to hate because "advanced stats".
- MacPatty

You’re wanting to interpret words that are clear as day. Others here, including myself, who are/were serious detractors of the Gudbranson trade have been giving him recognition; that’s the opposite of stubborn.

You don’t remember the odd Kuhnhackl break where he’d pull moves completely out of his ass?
- Victoro311

I do. German Gretzky....or was that his dad...

You don’t remember the odd Kuhnhackl break where he’d pull moves completely out of his ass?
- Victoro311

Those were the best because when it happened you're just like holy (frank) what just happened lol

I don't see where he said he would deter anything?

Since you are a bit of a dummy though go find a "Cheapshots against per 60" stat and come back to me with the result. Deter =|= prevent, they are two separate things. Until you find numbers that tell a different story, I will make the case that Gud has in fact deterred cheap shots.
- MacPatty

Are you really arguing that deter and prevent are different?

the definition of deter is: to prevent something from happening.

Tough hill to die on

Who has said Gudbransson was brought in as a deterrent?
- MacPatty

I don't see where he said he would deter anything?

Since you are a bit of a dummy though go find a "Cheapshots against per 60" stat and come back to me with the result. Deter =|= prevent, they are two separate things. Until you find numbers that tell a different story, I will make the case that Gud has in fact deterred cheap shots.
- MacPatty

This guy can't seem to keep his trolling arguments straight.

Great start to this home and home set with Cbus. Which goalie gets to break Torts heart on Saturday?

I don’t recall Lucic doing anything after Cooke ended Savard’s career.
- j.boyd919

Its so funny, because if there was ever a time for a player to end anothers career, it would have been for Lucic to end Cookes on that night and save countless more talents from injury.

But it didnt happen and it never happens.

I was surprised that RW almost said something nice about Gudbranson.....oh nope, he still found a way to female dog about him.

Where was the JJ bashing in this one??

Its so funny, because if there was ever a time for a player to end anothers career, it would have been for Lucic to end Cookes on that night and save countless more talents from injury.

But it didnt happen and it never happens.
- eNDSo

That's pretty dramatic. I thought it was a good hit on Savard, there were no rules against targeting the head back then.

That's pretty dramatic. I thought it was a good hit on Savard, there were no rules against targeting the head back then.
- MacPatty

Give me a f'n break man...you're definitely trolling at this point...you gotta be. Good hit?!...man...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z1vJrIAg-0

The deterrence topic is exactly the same as the "Botterill made all the good moves" topic...

You can't prove anything in any way.

You can't prove someone deters something if it never happens. All you can do is female dog when any single occurrence happens that Gudbranson didn't prevent.

saying Gudbranson was brought in to protect players but didn't deter Werenski from hitting Guentzel is like female doging that we traded for Kessel for scoring but female dog about every game he doesn't score.

Botterill was he cap genius who let the 5 defenseman fiasco happen, but he's a genius and GMJR is incompetent. And you don't know who was the main driver for individual trades/roster moves.

Point is you can't say anything definitively on these topics.

I was surprised that RW almost said something nice about Gudbranson.....oh nope, he still found a way to female dog about him.

Where was the JJ bashing in this one??
- YouMeAndDupuis9

I actually think the paragraph Gudbranson got was unfair. I usually defend RW when he poops on guys cus usually he's poopting on guys that aren't playing well enough, but in this case he made a sarcastic remark about Gudbranson not being sub replacement level. He's actually been quite a bit above replacement level, and you know what? If JR went out and got him as a deterrent and accidentally stumbled back asswards into a player that will contribute on the ice instead, I'll take that trade off a million days out of the week.

That's pretty dramatic. I thought it was a good hit on Savard, there were no rules against targeting the head back then.
- MacPatty

F'in classless post.

Just delete your account. This is embarrassing.
- Feds91Stammer

Now delete can mean many things. Do you mean simply removing the account from the autofill or actually from hockeybuzz?

The deterrence topic is exactly the same as the "Botterill made all the good moves" topic...

You can't prove anything in any way.

You can't prove someone deters something if it never happens. All you can do is female dog when any single occurrence happens that Gudbranson didn't prevent.

saying Gudbranson was brought in to protect players but didn't deter Werenski from hitting Guentzel is like female doging that we traded for Kessel for scoring but female dog about every game he doesn't score.

Botterill was he cap genius who let the 5 defenseman fiasco happen, but he's a genius and GMJR is incompetent. And you don't know who was the main driver for individual trades/roster moves.

Point is you can't say anything definitively on these topics.
- YouMeAndDupuis9

You're totally right to say this.

Now delete can mean many things. Do you mean simply removing the account from the autofill or actually from hockeybuzz?
- Rinosaur

Exterminate the account from the planet.

Great start to this home and home set with Cbus. Which goalie gets to break Torts heart on Saturday?
- Dr Blob

I'm going with Kinkaid.

F'in classless post.
- Victoro311

What are you talking about? Someone else says they wish someone ended Cookes career and Im classless for just mentioning it occurred prior to the head check rule?? Ok...

Cooke was a great player for the Penguins.