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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 2 @ 10:08 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins now Sheary bottom playoff spot with Columbus Penguins now Sheary bottom playoff spot with Columbus
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 2 @ 10:18 AM ET
Terrible pun. Log off.
LandlordTom
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Ice girls, please, NY
Joined: 07.16.2011

Mar 2 @ 10:50 AM ET
Terrible pun. Log off.
- Victoro311

Garth?
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 2 @ 10:54 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins now Sheary bottom playoff spot with Columbus
Penguins now Sheary bottom playoff spot with Columbus

- Ryan_Wilson

nice read gunner


for those penguin fans, sheary does not play 5 on 5 with eichel, he is usually on the second or third line with casey, e-rod or the bum sobodka as his center
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
nice read gunner


for those penguin fans, sheary does not play 5 on 5 with eichel, he is usually on the second or third line with casey, e-rod or the bum sobodka as his center

- homiedclown

I really miss the guy. I think with Simon coming up he became expendable, so I didn’t hate trading him in theory, I just hate that his trade basically amounted to nothing. He was used to dump a bad contract so we could immediately turn around and sign a different bad contract. Hope he continues to find success in Buffalo for you guys.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 2 @ 11:08 AM ET
I really miss the guy. I think with Simon coming up he became expendable, so I didn’t hate trading him in theory, I just hate that his trade basically amounted to nothing. He was used to dump a bad contract so we could immediately turn around and sign a different bad contract. Hope he continues to find success in Buffalo for you guys.
- Victoro311


He was basically traded for Jack Johnson and that’s a big problem
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 2 @ 11:14 AM ET
I really miss the guy. I think with Simon coming up he became expendable, so I didn’t hate trading him in theory, I just hate that his trade basically amounted to nothing. He was used to dump a bad contract so we could immediately turn around and sign a different bad contract. Hope he continues to find success in Buffalo for you guys.
- Victoro311


As I'm sure you know well as a Pens fan, there are plenty of games where Sheary is invisible or worse, he handles the puck like a hand grenade for games on end. It's very much the good and the bad with him.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 2 @ 11:16 AM ET
Canes and Jackets both have gimmes tonight. Pens are pretty much in a must-win scenario the rest of the season.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 2 @ 11:18 AM ET
nice read gunner


for those penguin fans, sheary does not play 5 on 5 with eichel, he is usually on the second or third line with casey, e-rod or the bum sobodka as his center

- homiedclown



We know it was a really stupid trade by JR. Hunwick was not that bad, Sheary just can be muscled up on hard in the post season. Kid needs to add ~10 pounds.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Mar 2 @ 11:24 AM ET
We know it was a really stupid trade by JR. Hunwick was not that bad, Sheary just can be muscled up on hard in the post season. Kid needs to add ~10 pounds.
- Guile


No no, Hunwick was/is bad. He’s just not as bad as his replacement or his future third pairing partner.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 2 @ 11:24 AM ET
As I'm sure you know well as a Pens fan, there are plenty of games where Sheary is invisible or worse, he handles the puck like a hand grenade for games on end. It's very much the good and the bad with him.
- kingcong39

I mean he’s certainly not a perfect top six player but I always thought his warts were overblown because people just don’t like the aesthetic of a small, non-physical winger. I think the good has always outweighed the bad with Sheary.
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Mar 2 @ 11:26 AM ET
2.5 million per, I love Sheary

3 Million I hate him
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 11:57 AM ET
I really miss the guy. I think with Simon coming up he became expendable, so I didn’t hate trading him in theory, I just hate that his trade basically amounted to nothing. He was used to dump a bad contract so we could immediately turn around and sign a different bad contract. Hope he continues to find success in Buffalo for you guys.
- Victoro311


I get that, but I also hate that. Keeping Sheary would have given the Pens some serious depth.

Guenztel-Sid-Horny
Simon-Geno-Kessel
Sheary-Mcann-Bjugstad
ZAR-Blueger-Rust
Cullen

would look pretty good right about now and any of Horny, Simon, Sheary, ZAR, Rust are all capable of sliding up and down the roster into different spots. It's a shame they felt that he was expendable.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 11:59 AM ET
We know it was a really stupid trade by JR. Hunwick was not that bad, Sheary just can be muscled up on hard in the post season. Kid needs to add ~10 pounds.
- Guile


For a guy who would get close to zero PP time in the playoffs, 20 points in 59 playoff games is okay middle six production. The idea that he was useless in the playoffs is overblown as well.
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Mar 2 @ 12:01 PM ET
I get that, but I also hate that. Keeping Sheary would have given the Pens some serious depth.

Guenztel-Sid-Horny
Simon-Geno-Kessel
Sheary-Mcann-Bjugstad
ZAR-Blueger-Rust
Cullen

would look pretty good right about now and any of Horny, Simon, Sheary, ZAR, Rust are all capable of sliding up and down the roster into different spots. It's a shame they felt that he was expendable.

- j.boyd919

Out of the players you mentioned, sheary is the best at creating chances on his own. That’s what I always liked about him.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:05 PM ET
I mean he’s certainly not a perfect top six player but I always thought his warts were overblown because people just don’t like the aesthetic of a small, non-physical winger. I think the good has always outweighed the bad with Sheary.
- Victoro311


What I've noticed is when Sheary is bad, he's nearly horrible, but that doesn't happen most of the time.

I don't believe he's a top 6 winger. He's a 3rd line winger, which means it comes down to how much his cap hit is in terms of the entire 3rd line as a whole, especially if your teams top 6 is expensive.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 2 @ 12:07 PM ET
For a guy who would get close to zero PP time in the playoffs, 20 points in 59 playoff games is okay middle six production. The idea that he was useless in the playoffs is overblown as well.
- j.boyd919


Like most players, it's often perception regarding seeing what they can do at their best and being unhappy when that isn't the case most of the time. It's better to understand what a player is and accept that to make a decision if there's a place for them on the team at their prospective cap hit.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Mar 2 @ 12:11 PM ET
Out of the players you mentioned, sheary is the best at creating chances on his own. That’s what I always liked about him.
- jchst22


He's similar to Guentzel in that he always ends up being in the right place at the right time, sometimes he just flubs passes and shots, but hes always there for them.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 2 @ 12:11 PM ET
I get that, but I also hate that. Keeping Sheary would have given the Pens some serious depth.

Guenztel-Sid-Horny
Simon-Geno-Kessel
Sheary-Mcann-Bjugstad
ZAR-Blueger-Rust
Cullen

would look pretty good right about now and any of Horny, Simon, Sheary, ZAR, Rust are all capable of sliding up and down the roster into different spots. It's a shame they felt that he was expendable.

- j.boyd919

Well expendable is all relative and depends on what your game plan is. Basically I evaluate trades in terms of net gains. How much better did we actually get by acquiring player A given that we lost player B’s production? Figured that since Sheary was likely gonna play mostly in the bottom six moving forward his general production given bottom 6 minutes could be approximated by Simon so the net gains of sending him out for either blue line help or a legitimate stud winger that put our forward group over the top would yield high net gains. In that sense he was expendable.

I don’t at all agree with JR’s final evaluation that he was expendable enough to send out for a bottom pairing defenseman in Jack Johnson.
Dr Blob
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.30.2018

Mar 2 @ 12:36 PM ET
Must win tonight but can Muzz, if he gets the start, play good enough? The clock keeps ticking and the window closes a little more each day. Looking more and more like a lost season.
MacPatty
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.21.2015

Mar 2 @ 12:53 PM ET
I still think moving Sheary and Huntwick was the right move... JR just didn't do the right things with the space.

Remember, at the time the Pens had Jake, Hagelin, Simon, ZAR and Sheary at LW. Not to mention they were expecting Sprong to be a big contributor on the right side. At face value he was expendable.

I'd absolutely do the Sheary trade again, I'd just change whatever thing that happened from there on.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Mar 2 @ 12:55 PM ET
Yawn. Another narrative blog again.

Sheary scores a softy in OT that was a direct result of Malkin being a lazy sh!t on the boards and Murray cheating to his right but Instead of calling out those two let’s do this.
Gudbransson has a decent game, even proved by fancy stats but instead of saying he had a good first showing and hopefully he is able to keep it up RW has to harp on the couple plays where he was beat on the outside.
Doesn’t RW always preach that we always remember the faults but you need to look at the underlining numbers when talking about Letang?

Gudbransson is a bad defender, I think he was a stupid pickup. But he had a good game he added a level of intimidation that our team lacked. Yeah he got beat to the outside, but he didn’t get beat to the inside like Malkin in OT, and he was holding his mad to the outside and giving Murray a clear look at the shot he should have saved.

Noticed JJ wasn’t mentioned, wonder why that was.
Jordy8
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: windsor, ON
Joined: 06.21.2013

Mar 2 @ 1:04 PM ET
I've never called RW on some b.s. but chirping gudbranson on his angle as a trail d man gtfoh. Good shot the goalie was seeing everything at that point.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Mar 2 @ 1:13 PM ET
I've never called RW on some b.s. but chirping gudbranson on his angle as a trail d man gtfoh. Good shot the goalie was seeing everything at that point.
- Jordy8

Yeah I chalk up Gudbranson's play last night as a STRONG win for us. That being said, I think its totally in bounds to acknowledge his warts and how they might create issues moving forward. If five or ten games in, he's still playing like he did last night, his warts won't matter too much and I'll eat crow on him. I don't expect that to happen, but last night gave me at least some hope that Gudbranson won't be the disaster I was anticipating.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Mar 2 @ 1:30 PM ET
No no, Hunwick was/is bad. He’s just not as bad as his replacement or his future third pairing partner.
- Rinosaur



You are entitled to a wrong opinion. Hunwick as your #6 Dman is passable.
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