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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 23 @ 8:47 PM ET
Think I heard the announcers say he fell during the scrum
- Guile


This is what happens when he's one of the toughest players we have.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:48 PM ET
missed the first. how's everything looking? are we ready to jettison sid/geno or is there reason to be watching hockey in may?
- DeflatedPucks

Right now we’re down our top d pair
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
Johnson needs to hit and kill someone and then the league needs to hand him a 5 year suspension. That's a win/win.
WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 23 @ 8:49 PM ET
I have to disagree. Very few NHL coachs would sit a NHL guy like Johnson, especially in his first season after signing a big contract. No coach is going to show his GM up like that. I dont disagree with you at all, Johnson is horrible. I would rather have the cap money back and have Chad Ruhwedel play every night. You'll get similar production.

I dont get what you want him to do to get Kessel & Malkin going. Hornqvist I think he has mismanaged, but I dont think Horny fits in the top 6 anymore which is a big problem given his contract.

I hold Rutherford far more responsible for the state of the team than Sullivan.

- SuperHenderson13

Well Torts scratched JJ. That guy will scratch anybody and he seems to have the respect of Jarmo, who is killing it. The Jackets will have no problem luring free agents after they’re showing they’re willing to go for it. I agree there’s a disconnect, but Sullivan has stalled several guys to his bench including Reaves and Sprong in the past who Rutherford wanted to play. I think Sullivan just thinks JJ is good, so does Rutherford from the sounds of it. So who can make a difference there? A new coach.

I’m like the Treasurer of the Trade Hornqvist Committee - but when you’ve got a guy who isn’t going you’ve gotta find a way. Calgary’s line cooled off and now Lindholm is on the 2nd line and they continue to roll on. I recall watching Simon-Geno-Hornqvist and liking it same with 72-71-81 for a spell. Why wasn’t it given a longer look? I couldn’t tell you. Does ZAR look good with Geno? Absolutely. What’s it doing for Phil or Horny? Nada. Are we all suddenly of the opinion that Bjugs and Phil were awful together? I’m certainly not. Lots of coaches love to have pairs in there forward ranks and to just let the other wing just settle itself with whoever is hottest. To me 87-59, 71-72, and Kessel on the 3rd line should be constants. If you want to load up once a while, then go for it. I think Sullivan’s lineup decisions have been questionable for a very long time
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:50 PM ET
Phil tried to pass that too
iworkatinitech
Joined: 11.12.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:50 PM ET
Johnson needs to hit and kill someone and then the league needs to hand him a 5 year suspension. That's a win/win.
- SuperHenderson13

I’ll sign up for that!!!
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Feb 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
Right now we’re down our top d pair
- Thorny87

WSCTeton17
Joined: 07.29.2013

Feb 23 @ 8:51 PM ET
I have liked Wilson, Blueger, ZAR, & Rust this season. None of them are offensive studs, but all 4 play their roles nicely.
- SuperHenderson13

I agree with you and if their 5v5 goal differential can always remain positive then they should be constants in the lineup. My odd man out there is Wilson. I really like him, but not at the expense of sitting some of these other guys like Blueger
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Feb 23 @ 8:52 PM ET
missed the first. how's everything looking? are we ready to jettison sid/geno or is there reason to be watching hockey in may?
- DeflatedPucks

Probably not with lengthy absences by letang and dumo on tap. Gonna get ugly fast, starting with the remainder of this game.

At least the Crosby goal was cool
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Feb 23 @ 8:53 PM ET
what! they dont call the game according to the rules... maybe the players do actually have to carry out some justice on the ice
Chuck-Norris
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.29.2018

Feb 23 @ 8:54 PM ET
Can Phil shoot the puck or because his shot is so good he can only take 2 a game? With a shot like his he should shoot whenever the puck comes to him. If he is trying to be a playmaker he needs to be on his own line with someone who will shoot. If he won’t take the shot I wouldn’t put him with Geno. It’s like a wasted spot....
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
Dzingle for 2 2nds

Zucarello for a 2nd and a 3rd

Apparently Columbus ALSO working on a deal for Stone??? Trying to move $$$ right now according to TSN
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh teams suck, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Feb 23 @ 8:55 PM ET
What a (frank)ing disaster losing Letang and Dumo.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:56 PM ET
Dzingle for 2 2nds

Zucarello for a 2nd and a 3rd

Apparently Columbus ALSO working on a deal for Stone??? Trying to move $$$ right now according to TSN

- RoloTahmasee



Wow... and I thought WE went all in heavily some years. They are (frank)ing doing 2-3 years worth of all in on this one season.
Murphy_Dump
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2014

Feb 23 @ 8:57 PM ET
Johnson needs to hit and kill someone and then the league needs to hand him a 5 year suspension. That's a win/win.
- SuperHenderson13


how?
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:58 PM ET
Well Torts scratched JJ. That guy will scratch anybody and he seems to have the respect of Jarmo, who is killing it. The Jackets will have no problem luring free agents after they’re showing they’re willing to go for it. I agree there’s a disconnect, but Sullivan has stalled several guys to his bench including Reaves and Sprong in the past who Rutherford wanted to play. I think Sullivan just thinks JJ is good, so does Rutherford from the sounds of it. So who can make a difference there? A new coach.

I’m like the Treasurer of the Trade Hornqvist Committee - but when you’ve got a guy who isn’t going you’ve gotta find a way. Calgary’s line cooled off and now Lindholm is on the 2nd line and they continue to roll on. I recall watching Simon-Geno-Hornqvist and liking it same with 72-71-81 for a spell. Why wasn’t it given a longer look? I couldn’t tell you. Does ZAR look good with Geno? Absolutely. What’s it doing for Phil or Horny? Nada. Are we all suddenly of the opinion that Bjugs and Phil were awful together? I’m certainly not. Lots of coaches love to have pairs in there forward ranks and to just let the other wing just settle itself with whoever is hottest. To me 87-59, 71-72, and Kessel on the 3rd line should be constants. If you want to load up once a while, then go for it. I think Sullivan’s lineup decisions have been questionable for a very long time

- WSCTeton17

Wayyyyyyyy different to talk about Johnson in his last year or so with the Jackets. Jarmo didnt trade for him and clearly wasnt interested in resigning him. Torts wasnt being brave by sitting him. That's way different than Johnson with a new team and signed to a brand new deal. I think sullivan realizes that him sitting Johnson isnt going to help his case to remain coach. The disconnect started over Reaves IMO. Sullivan wanted no part of Reaves considering he just won two cups with players very different than Ryan Reaves. That was a stupid and unnecessary trade by Rutherford.

There are plenty of things I dont like about Sullivan. He didnt play Sprong and never gave him a chance (similar to Pouliot & Bylsma), he keeps playing Cullen, & he's been sitting Simon/Blueger/Wilson when all three have proven themselves. So I am not a homer for Sullivan. I am purely making the point that this team is not constructed to compete. Some of that is on Rutherford, some is on Sullivan, some of it is on the players. I just dont think a coaching change is going to do anything and I think you could find a much worse coach than Sullivan.
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
how?
- Murphy_Dump

Anytime a Flyer gets hit, that's a win. Anytime Johnson is out of the lineup, that's a win.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Feb 23 @ 8:59 PM ET
Dzingle for 2 2nds

Zucarello for a 2nd and a 3rd

Apparently Columbus ALSO working on a deal for Stone??? Trying to move $$$ right now according to TSN

- RoloTahmasee


Zucc is for conditional picks which could turn into 2 -1st round picks. Big time over payment
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:00 PM ET
Dude looks like a lady
all-pgh
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 05.14.2014

Feb 23 @ 9:01 PM ET
Philly gonna Philly.
- madmike71
Simmonds gonna Simmonds
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 23 @ 9:01 PM ET
what! they dont call the game according to the rules... maybe the players do actually have to carry out some justice on the ice
- nelson911


The only person that doesn't know this is Sullivan.
Chuck-Norris
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 05.29.2018

Feb 23 @ 9:01 PM ET
Dude looks like a lady
- Thorny87

An ugly one but you’re 100% right
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Feb 23 @ 9:02 PM ET
This game may have sealed our faith if Dumo and Letang are out for an extended period of time we may be in bigger trouble than we already are
RoloTahmasee
Joined: 07.24.2009

Feb 23 @ 9:02 PM ET
Zucc is for conditional picks which could turn into 2 -1st round picks. Big time over payment
- 123Kid


They wont resign him so the one 1st is moot

If they make it past 2 rounds of the playoffs into the WCF, I'm sure they'll gladly upgrade the 2nd to a 1st

At the end, it's only gonna cost them the 2nd and the 3rd
SuperHenderson13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 10.13.2008

Feb 23 @ 9:05 PM ET
Zucc is for conditional picks which could turn into 2 -1st round picks. Big time over payment
- 123Kid

I think Dallas got a good deal. No way I see him resigning in Dallas. I think he actually goes back to New York in the offseason. To get him for a 2nd & 3rd is good. Making it a 1st is fair if you go far enough in the playoffs.

I like the structure for Dallas. They only pay big if it works out. Worst case, you lose a 2nd & 3rd. Now if they go the Conference Finals and resign him, than yea Rangers got a good deal for him. I dont see either of those happening.
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