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cabin
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We need a You're an Ass button, NY
Joined: 09.07.2006

Feb 11 @ 5:20 PM ET
Boobs are fun but I prefer the business end.
- Der Kaiser


Agreed. Everyone has boobs.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 5:23 PM ET
I know, that's why I'm looking at within the team, and comparing it to the team's overall +/-. Florida's worst 4 forwards +/- are also their top scoring 4 forwards/top line. Buffalo's worst forwards +/- are Sobotka, Thompson and Okposo, they are most definitely not the top line.
- Wetbandit1

but last year when jack was -25

6 to 8 of the minus probably came from short handed goals allowed and another 6 to 8 for empty netters allowed


side note I looked at the roster last year



http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ons/teams/0000332018.html
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 5:24 PM ET
What if Stone and Duchene goes to Ottawa and tells them they're not going to re-sign there.

Would Ottawa take a Scandella or better yet Okposo contract if a 1st and a good prospect would be going there way?

For Stone that is

- Stripes77




they will get the first and a prospect for stone alone
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 5:26 PM ET
What's the point of this? Stone would be the top rental and command a big price. There's no logical way to get him and dump Okposo at the same time.

adding another expensive UFA in Duchene....i know it's a slow day, but it's just 3 levels of crazy

- Lunaion

actually skinner may be the top rental
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 11 @ 5:28 PM ET
Right like we have never let players like that go for nothing in the past. (Brier and Drury)
- hehateme

Different owner/GM

Might has well been a different franchise
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:36 PM ET
actually skinner may be the top rental
- homiedclown


Tell him see ya on July 1st. If he really wants to be here I’m sure he’ll understand why adding assets for the long term is beneficial to the franchise. He can get some playoff experience. If he decides to go elsewhere then we have enough dough to throw at Stone and Duchene.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:40 PM ET
https://buffalonews.com/2...obotka-analytics-minutes/

SabreWest
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BC
Joined: 03.02.2015

Feb 11 @ 5:56 PM ET
Tell him see ya on July 1st. If he really wants to be here I’m sure he’ll understand why adding assets for the long term is beneficial to the franchise. He can get some playoff experience. If he decides to go elsewhere then we have enough dough to throw at Stone and Duchene.
- Pegullaville


Very risky. Say he moves to a playoff team/city and they actually win - and he likes the city. Skinner would be in high demand come July 1st. Many red carpets would be rolled out for him.

Lock him up now Botts.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 11 @ 5:57 PM ET
Sweetwater now collects NYS sales tax.



They were one of the last holdouts.
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 11 @ 6:09 PM ET
anything going on, please ANYTHING????
- gordong

Patience.
Botts isn’t gonna rush into anything.
Caution and patience.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 11 @ 6:13 PM ET
https://buffalonews.com/2...obotka-analytics-minutes/


- TheSabresTaco



The Tldr version; Sobotka is bad, and Housley should feel bad for making us watch his bad hockey
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 11 @ 6:17 PM ET
Very risky. Say he moves to a playoff team/city and they actually win - and he likes the city. Skinner would be in high demand come July 1st. Many red carpets would be rolled out for him.

Lock him up now Botts.

- SabreWest


Cup contenders wouldn’t be able to afford him past this year most likely. If he signs elsewhere so be it. We still get the assets in moving him and a boatload of cap space.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 6:35 PM ET
watch Justin Bailey will get 3 points tonight
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 6:38 PM ET
https://www.diebytheblade...n-sobotka-smith-botterill

this is a good read
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 6:40 PM ET
https://sabrenoise.com/20...yle-okposo-gaining-value/



this is not a good read, unless Jimmy wrote it
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Feb 11 @ 6:55 PM ET
but last year when jack was -25

6 to 8 of the minus probably came from short handed goals allowed and another 6 to 8 for empty netters allowed


side note I looked at the roster last year



http://www.hockeydb.com/i...ons/teams/0000332018.html

- homiedclown

Pretty sure you dont get a plus or minus when a ppg is scored
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 7:03 PM ET
Pretty sure you dont get a plus or minus when a ppg is scored
- BeadyEyedDouche

but you get a minus when you are on the ice for a short handed goal and empty netter scored against you
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 11 @ 7:18 PM ET
Patience.
Botts isn’t gonna rush into anything.
Caution and patience.

- PrinceChill


I mean it is the pre-TDL period, so I get the excitement and desire to make a splash, I do.
I do find it entertaining to read the constant see-saw between making moves, giving up futures vs staying pat and playing the long game. Yes, there have been some playing it down the middle as well.
It will ve interestkng to see the outcome.
I'm expecti g one lower level hockey trade, and dumps of 2 -3 players for picks.
Good times
PrinceChill
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.06.2014

Feb 11 @ 7:29 PM ET
I mean it is the pre-TDL period, so I get the excitement and desire to make a splash, I do.
I do find it entertaining to read the constant see-saw between making moves, giving up futures vs staying pat and playing the long game. Yes, there have been some playing it down the middle as well.
It will ve interestkng to see the outcome.
I'm expecti g one lower level hockey trade, and dumps of 2 -3 players for picks.
Good times

- IonSabres

I’m not expecting to see that many trades involving the Sabres. Maybe one dump of an expiring contract.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 7:42 PM ET
watch Justin Bailey will get 3 points tonight
- homiedclown


I feel like bailey will play 8-10 minutes and skate fast, but not really do anything else
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 7:46 PM ET
I feel like bailey will play 8-10 minutes and skate fast, but not really do anything else
- Boss34


In other words

Play like he did in Buffalo, for 3 more shifts a night.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 7:52 PM ET
In other words

Play like he did in Buffalo, for 3 more shifts a night.

- Der Kaiser


👍
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 7:57 PM ET
https://www.diebytheblade.com/2019/2/11/18219620/buffalo-sabres-how-patient-is-too-patient-prospects-olofsson-sobotka-smith-botterill

this is a good read

- homiedclown



TRUTH BOMB in that article.

All of us for weeks have been arguing over the basic question: How do we make minor moves to upgrade the roster without spending any of our assets?

The answer is in this article.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 11 @ 8:03 PM ET
but you get a minus when you are on the ice for a short handed goal and empty netter scored against you
- homiedclown


I knew that you get a minus for an EN, but did not know you get one for a SH
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Feb 11 @ 8:12 PM ET
TRUTH BOMB in that article.

All of us for weeks have been arguing over the basic question: How do we make minor moves to upgrade the roster without spending any of our assets?

The answer is in this article.

- Der Kaiser

I’ve argued it for 3 months.

CJ Smith should be an NHL regular and we should have pushed to get a better center than Sobotka after the win streak.

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