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jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 11 @ 3:52 PM ET
Nylander + Dougherty/Borgen
for
Josh Manson (or Montour if they’d move him)


*not a rumor
Just throwing it out there

Going forward...
Dahlin-Manson
Pilut-Risto
McCabe- Bogo (eventually Laaksonen)
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 11 @ 3:53 PM ET
let's back that truck up a bit, he's a good player, but he's basically Reinhart. Except Reinhart is ahead of him time-wise. Huberdeau scores less than half his EV points away from Barkov, while playing more than half his time away from him, and none of his PPP. His line is a humongous beeg defensive liability though, as a team the Panthers are -19, Huberdeau, Barkov and Hoffman are -62 combined. Huberdeau is -23 all by himself. The Sabres are -11 as a team and Eichel, Skinner and Reinhart are +17 by comparison.
- Wetbandit1

eichel was a -25 last year


+/- is over rated, esp when looking at bad team
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 11 @ 3:55 PM ET
eichel was a -25 last year


+/- is over rated, esp when looking at bad team

- homiedclown



Huberdeau has also been playing mostly wing for a while now

Are we better if we trade Risto for Hubes
and then Sam for a RH defenseman?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 11 @ 3:59 PM ET
probably, but he'd still cost a lot....same reasons as risto
- Lunaion


Except Parayko doesn't score points like Risto. Risto has twice as many EV points: 24 to 12.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 11 @ 4:02 PM ET
eichel was a -25 last year


+/- is over rated, esp when looking at bad team

- homiedclown



I know, that's why I'm looking at within the team, and comparing it to the team's overall +/-. Florida's worst 4 forwards +/- are also their top scoring 4 forwards/top line. Buffalo's worst forwards +/- are Sobotka, Thompson and Okposo, they are most definitely not the top line.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 4:04 PM ET
Except Parayko doesn't score points like Risto. Risto has twice as many EV points: 24 to 12.
- Wetbandit1



Risto is 16th overall in defenseman scoring currently.

Impressive.

6th overall in average ice time

More impressive
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 11 @ 4:06 PM ET
Except Parayko doesn't score points like Risto. Risto has twice as many EV points: 24 to 12.
- Wetbandit1


Right, but they both have size, hit, are younger, shoot right....qualities that often over-rated. Risto has more, which is why I'd always be listening to offers on him.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Feb 11 @ 4:10 PM ET
We won’t. He’s going to re-sign. I’d bet $$.

There’s no way this franchise lets him walk

- sbroads24



Right like we have never let players like that go for nothing in the past. (Brier and Drury)
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 11 @ 4:13 PM ET
I like boobs
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Feb 11 @ 4:20 PM ET

- TheSabresTaco


Oh stop it, we had a Risto-Hall trade on paper once.

You must allow me a few nonsense references from time to time.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 4:34 PM ET
Well good for you
I ALSO provided extended reasoning for why Huberdeau might not be a great fit,
which u IGNORED so u could fly off the handle at me
Congrats toughguy

PS...
i just made sloppy joes instead of tacos
They were delicious

- jdfitz77


Get back on your meds.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 11 @ 4:35 PM ET
I like boobs
- jochfr




Playing the hits!
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 11 @ 4:39 PM ET
What if Stone and Duchene goes to Ottawa and tells them they're not going to re-sign there.

Would Ottawa take a Scandella or better yet Okposo contract if a 1st and a good prospect would be going there way?

For Stone that is
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 11 @ 4:41 PM ET
What if Stone and Duchene goes to Ottawa and tells them they're not going to re-sign there.

Would Ottawa take a Scandella or better yet Okposo contract if a 1st and a good prospect would be going there way?

- Stripes77


Not with Melnyk. The most penny wise, pound foolish owner in the NHL.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Feb 11 @ 4:42 PM ET
What if Stone and Duchene goes to Ottawa and tells them they're not going to re-sign there.

Would Ottawa take a Scandella or better yet Okposo contract if a 1st and a good prospect would be going there way?

For Stone that is

- Stripes77



How much can the Sabres pay of okposo 's contract?

50%? How many years?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 11 @ 4:43 PM ET
What if Stone and Duchene goes to Ottawa and tells them they're not going to re-sign there.

Would Ottawa take a Scandella or better yet Okposo contract if a 1st and a good prospect would be going there way?

- Stripes77


The Okposo contract isn't front loaded, which sucks for us. That probably would have appealed to Melnyk to help them to hit the floor without paying him real money. I think most every team takes Okposo for a 1st. But Okposo has a MNTC

Thanks, GMTM. Your services will be missed
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 11 @ 4:43 PM ET
How much can the Sabres pay of okposo 's contract?

50%? How many years?

- Boss34


For the remainder.
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Feb 11 @ 4:44 PM ET
The Okposo contract isn't front loaded, which sucks for us. That probably would have appealed to Melnyk to help them to hit the floor without paying him real money. I think most every team takes Okposo for a 1st. But Okposo has a MNTC

Thanks, GMTM. Your services will be missed

- jcragcrumple


Oh, just for taking Okposo? I was assuming one of Stone or Duchene would be coming back.
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Feb 11 @ 4:46 PM ET
What if Stone and Duchene goes to Ottawa and tells them they're not going to re-sign there.

Would Ottawa take a Scandella or better yet Okposo contract if a 1st and a good prospect would be going there way?

For Stone that is

- Stripes77


For both:
Duchene, Stone

For,

Buf 1st 2019, STL 1st 19, STL 2nd 2021 Sheary, Nylander, Okposo

A lot to give up and one hell of Murray deal.

PSA: Im wouldnt do this but what it would probably cost with dumping okposo
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Feb 11 @ 4:48 PM ET
Joel Ward retired.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 11 @ 4:51 PM ET
I like boobs
- jochfr


Boobs are fun but I prefer the business end.
Stripes77
Referee
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY
Joined: 07.30.2012

Feb 11 @ 4:52 PM ET
For both:
Duchene, Stone

For,

Buf 1st 2019, STL 1st 19, STL 2nd 2021 Sheary, Nylander, Okposo

A lot to give up and one hell of Murray deal.

PSA: Im wouldnt do this but what it would probably cost with dumping okposo

- Sabre_Tooth



For salary would have to go the other way to afford those two

I was saying:

Stone for Okposo (0 retained) A 1st and Nylander/Guhle

However if Okposo's contract was front loaded it would look better for Melnyk
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 11 @ 4:56 PM ET
For both:
Duchene, Stone

For,

Buf 1st 2019, STL 1st 19, STL 2nd 2021 Sheary, Nylander, Okposo

A lot to give up and one hell of Murray deal.

PSA: Im wouldnt do this but what it would probably cost with dumping okposo

- Sabre_Tooth


Stone and Duchene are most likely both 1sts (Boyle set the market as a 2nd)

Okposo is a 1st to take the contract.

So 3 firsts + Sheary and Nylander
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 11 @ 5:06 PM ET
Will we be “great” though?

We wanna be PIT or CHI, not SJ
Lots of work to be done still

- jdfitz77


Don’t win a game for the rest of the year and that will definitely help.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Feb 11 @ 5:11 PM ET
For salary would have to go the other way to afford those two

I was saying:

Stone for Okposo (0 retained) A 1st and Nylander/Guhle

However if Okposo's contract was front loaded it would look better for Melnyk

- Stripes77


What's the point of this? Stone would be the top rental and command a big price. There's no logical way to get him and dump Okposo at the same time.

adding another expensive UFA in Duchene....i know it's a slow day, but it's just 3 levels of crazy
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