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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:43 AM ET
No thanks. Dunno what Manson has done to get that type of package in return?

Borgen could be our 2nd best RHD as early as next season.

- Jammerz04

manson is a beast

I would not move borgen for him, but there is not much I wouldn't move for manson

with manson, risto, borgen

it's a solid group of RD for the next 10 years
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 12 @ 7:44 AM ET
Manson is MUCH better than Bogo,
and (IMO) a perfect fit as Dahlin’s future defense partner
That’s why I’d target him
Also... bc hes a “defensive” defenseman, he’ll never cost us a whole lot on the Cap


And Nylander’s status as a good prospect is fading
But if Botts still believes in him, then u keep Nylander and sub in another prospect (Olofsson? Asplund? etc etc)
Moving him would fall under the assumption that we don’t think he’s gonna be a legit Top6 guy

Nylander is also a “playmaker”
Not quite the goal scoring winger type we need to add
So idk if he even fits all that well going forward with us?

And if he isn’t a “fit”
Then we should absolutely explore trading him while he still has some value

- jdfitz77


Trouba would make our D-Corps the best in the East once Dahlin and Pilut enter their primes.

Dahlin-Trouba
Pilut-Risto
Samuelsson/McCabe-Borgen/Laaksonen/Nelson

He is an RFA at years end and has twice requested trades out of Winnipeg. Jets are in a cap crunch too.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 7:50 AM ET
Trouba would make our D-Corps the best in the East once Dahlin and Pilut enter their primes.

Dahlin-Trouba
Pilut-Risto
Samuelsson/McCabe-Borgen/Laaksonen/Nelson

He is an RFA at years end and has twice requested trades out of Winnipeg. Jets are in a cap crunch too.

- Pegullaville

trouba is a few notches above manson
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:00 AM ET
imagine that, bolts looking for 4th line center

https://www.spectorshocke...or-mill-february-12-2019/

ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 12 @ 8:00 AM ET
trouba is a few notches above manson
- homiedclown



Can you add conditional
PlYers to a trade like draft picks hahA?
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 12 @ 8:02 AM ET
imagine that, bolts looking for 4th line center

https://www.spectorshocke...or-mill-february-12-2019/

- homiedclown


We have 6

I'll give them 4 for a 2RW. They can return the ones they don't like
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:04 AM ET
We have 6

I'll give them 4 for a 2RW. They can return the ones they don't like

- jcragcrumple

I brought it up a few weeks ago, and the game of throne wanna be, had a jab at me


side note, kings want to stand pat right now and see what happens this week before they move 1 or more bigger pieces up front
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:10 AM ET
I brought it up a few weeks ago, and the game of throne wanna be, had a jab at me


side note, kings want to stand pat right now and see what happens this week before they move 1 or more bigger pieces up front

- homiedclown


Still bores me.

But “GoT wannabe” is a good one.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:21 AM ET
Still bores me.

But “GoT wannabe” is a good one.

- Der Kaiser

ginger ale is more then a mixer
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Feb 12 @ 8:23 AM ET
They made the decision. There's obviously a basis for it. Like it or not.
- Lunaion


I'm not inclined to give Housley the benefit of the doubt on personnel decisions. He (frank)s em up all the time.

"Sobotka scored 2 goals in this building in 2011 while the moon was in the same phase. Better play him 18 minutes"
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:33 AM ET
Trouba would make our D-Corps the best in the East once Dahlin and Pilut enter their primes.

Dahlin-Trouba
Pilut-Risto
Samuelsson/McCabe-Borgen/Laaksonen/Nelson

He is an RFA at years end and has twice requested trades out of Winnipeg. Jets are in a cap crunch too.

- Pegullaville


He’d also cost a lot more to acquire than Manson
AND
have a much bigger Cap hit
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:35 AM ET
I'm not inclined to give Housley the benefit of the doubt on personnel decisions. He (frank)s em up all the time.

"Sobotka scored 2 goals in this building in 2011 while the moon was in the same phase. Better play him 18 minutes"

- jcragcrumple

he is no better in year 2 behind the bench then when he was a rookie last year

the d has only slightly improved


his game management, decisions, I think a monkey could do just as good

a monkey only has a 1 in 3 chance to come back with the 4th line after you score a goal to get within 1 at home

kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:38 AM ET
he is no better in year 2 behind the bench then when he was a rookie last year

the d has only slightly improved

his game management, decisions, I think a monkey could do just as good

a monkey only has a 1 in 3 chance to come back with the 4th line after you score a goal to get within 1 at home

- homiedclown


If the team ends up with 87 points, they'll have had a 25 point improvement from last year, and yet Phil did a bad job?
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:38 AM ET
He’d also cost a lot more to acquire than Manson
AND
have a much bigger Cap hit

- jdfitz77


I’ll hit you with the same response you sent to me yesterday. Do you want to be good like St.Louis’, Rangers’, or Habs of the past 10 years. Or do you want to be great ? Trouba makes us great.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Feb 12 @ 8:40 AM ET
Sabres have to go 15-7-5 to hit 96 points. Safe to say if they don’t win 4 of their next 6 before the deadline that we should SELL, SELL, SELL.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:44 AM ET
I’ll hit you with the same response you sent to me yesterday. Do you want to be good like St.Louis’, Rangers’, or Habs of the past 10 years. Or do you want to be great ? Trouba makes us great.
- Pegullaville


I guess if u think he’s the missing piece,
then you go after him

BUT...
what extra assets does he cost?
AND...
it’s an extra 4mil? in Cap Room we won’t have to work with- that’s significant

Trouba on his own doesn’t make us great
Still more pieces to add
That extra 4mil would help
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:45 AM ET
If the team ends up with 87 points, they'll have had a 25 point improvement from last year, and yet Phil did a bad job?
- kingcong39

if they end up with 87 points, Phil, aka Phail will be the main reason they did not make the playoffs
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 8:47 AM ET

it’s an extra 4mil? in Cap Room we won’t have to work with- that’s significant

- jdfitz77

???????????????????

after next season only eichel, okposo, dahlin, risto and hutton are under contract


botts has room to do whatever he wants to mold this team


30 mil in cap space for next season, skinner, mccabe- e rod - and ullmark need to be signed
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Feb 12 @ 8:50 AM ET
???????????????????

after next season only eichel, okposo, dahlin, risto and hutton are under contract


botts has room to do whatever he wants to mold this team

- homiedclown


They won’t be the only ones under contract though

Re-signing Skinner
Sam will cost
Mitts will cost
Dahlin is gonna cost
What are the others up front we add gonna cost?
Stone? Hayes? Dzingel?

We do have Cap room to do stuff
But that doesn’t mean we can do EVERYTHING
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 12 @ 8:58 AM ET
imagine that, bolts looking for 4th line center

https://www.spectorshocke...or-mill-february-12-2019/

- homiedclown


How about a big, mobile RhD with a meanstreak who is willing to stick his nose in the middle of a dance to protect linemates.
Wonder what they would pay for that?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Feb 12 @ 8:59 AM ET
I would expect the great one to have more goals then busthart

#passthedamnpuckskinner

- homiedclown



If Getzlaf is available you absolutely make a play for him.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Feb 12 @ 9:02 AM ET
I'm not inclined to give Housley the benefit of the doubt on personnel decisions. He (frank)s em up all the time.

"Sobotka scored 2 goals in this building in 2011 while the moon was in the same phase. Better play him 18 minutes"

- jcragcrumple


So you're saying he uses and believes in extreme advanced stats...good to know
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Feb 12 @ 9:02 AM ET
Completely unrealistic post ahead.

Offseason moves, again, completely unrealistic.

Sign Karlsson to 10 * 7
Sign skinner to 7.75 * 7
Trade Scandella for scraps
Trade sobodka for scraps
Trade Hunwick for Scraps
Risto for Huberdeau
Okposo, Nylander, 1st, 3rd for Kovy, Toffoli

Skinner - Eichel - Reinhart
Huberdeau - Mitts - Toffoli
Kovy - xxxx - Sheary
Erod - Girgs/Larsson - Thompson

Dahlin- Karlsson
McCabe - Bogo
Pilut - Nelson
Guhle
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Feb 12 @ 9:02 AM ET
If Getzlaf is available you absolutely make a play for him.
- dadeadhead

agreed

I brought him up 2 weeks ago


everyone pissed on the thought
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Feb 12 @ 9:03 AM ET
If Getzlaf is available you absolutely make a play for him.
- dadeadhead


Not me. El Paso.

Great player but not for what we have going on.
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