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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Feb 11 @ 12:27 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: No thought put into tonight's lineup No thought put into tonight's lineup
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:35 PM ET
Woah. Taking Kessel off the 1PP and putting Pettersson there is the epitome of fixing the wrong part of a broken thing. The issue with the PP is mindset, not the personnel, and while I get a personnel shakeup can fix mindsets, Pettersson is going to bring exactly zero to that unit.

These lines are a mess. I'm not to the point of calling for Sullivan's head, but I've had about enough of stupid lineup decisions even with the injuries we've dealt with. Sully shouldn't be allowed to get a pass on everything bad he's doing because he won two Cups his first two years. He's having a really bad season.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:36 PM ET
So apparently its Phil playing LW, not Bjugstad, on that line...
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 11 @ 12:41 PM ET
We're Ryan Malone's charts better or worse when he went from playing with Crosby to not playing with Crosby?
- MacPatty


His charts were pretty consistent with his Pittsburgh days when he went to Tampa until he hit the age of 33 and started his decline. He consistently put up 38+ points in Tampa playing without Crosby.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Feb 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
Ryan Wilson: No thought put into tonight's lineup
No thought put into tonight's lineup

- Ryan_Wilson

Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
Woah. Taking Kessel off the 1PP and putting Pettersson there is the epitome of fixing the wrong part of a broken thing. The issue with the PP is mindset, not the personnel, and while I get a personnel shakeup can fix mindsets, Pettersson is going to bring exactly zero to that unit.

These lines are a mess. I'm not to the point of calling for Sullivan's head, but I've had about enough of stupid lineup decisions even with the injuries we've dealt with. Sully shouldn't be allowed to get a pass on everything bad he's doing because he won two Cups his first two years. He's having a really bad season.

- Victoro311


Taking away an offensive weapon on the PP does seem counter productive. This looks like an attempt to get them to simplify. One less player to try that pass through 4 defenders. I'm all for no Geno on the point too.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Feb 11 @ 12:50 PM ET
Taking away an offensive weapon on the PP does seem counter productive. This looks like an attempt to get them to simplify. One less player to try that pass through 4 defenders. I'm all for no Geno on the point too.
- Thorny87


Geno should never be on the point. He should be on the half wall ripping one timer clappies all day.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
Geno should never be on the point. He should be on the half wall ripping one timer clappies all day.
- j.boyd919

That and I'd staple Sid down low. I can't stand when he's static in the slot. It's one of the only things I agree with RW 100% on.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:52 PM ET
I wonder how much input Recchi has in the lineup decisions. I dont remember such extreme line juggling (and non-logical decisions) last year.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Feb 11 @ 12:53 PM ET
Taking away an offensive weapon on the PP does seem counter productive. This looks like an attempt to get them to simplify. One less player to try that pass through 4 defenders. I'm all for no Geno on the point too.
- Thorny87


The last time Sullivan did a "blender" lineup, it lasted 15 minutes....maybe less. Not going to get worked up over this mess.

It's funny.... Sullivan said how much he admires Belichek. Also has said he's gleaned things from his coaching style. Then he proceeds to ignore the biggest things that makes him successful. Like letting performance determine playing time.
YouMeAndDupuis9
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.09.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:54 PM ET
GMJR said making the Brassard trade early was good because he will get a good look at his team before the deadline....

well if thats the case, how can you have Bjugstad on a different line, in a different position every game and expect to learn anything. Make him the 3C or staple him to Crosbys RW...but for the love of god give it 5+ games...
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:56 PM ET
Malkin has been/was struggling at even strength this season but not on PP. PP has been struggling lately with no Malkin. Now Malkin is back so they're going to split up one of the best PP units the past few season? Zero logic here. Zero.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
For anyone that cares. The blind chart I posted was Fowler vs Brendan Smith
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 11 @ 12:59 PM ET
GMJR said making the Brassard trade early was good because he will get a good look at his team before the deadline....

well if thats the case, how can you have Bjugstad on a different line, in a different position every game and expect to learn anything. Make him the 3C or staple him to Crosbys RW...but for the love of god give it 5+ games...

- YouMeAndDupuis9



This has been an issue for me regarding the coaching staff for a while ie: no extended look for Sprong in top 6 . Nothing gets tried for very long. Its almost like some nights if one shift doesnt go right things are mixed up. Its hard not only to gauge what you have but also for the players to find comfort and chemistry with each other.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
For anyone that cares. The blind chart I posted was Fowler vs Brendan Smith
- Feds91Stammer

no one does
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
For anyone that cares. The blind chart I posted was Fowler vs Brendan Smith
- Feds91Stammer


I cared but thought for sure you used a Pen as the other player haha.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
no one does
- DeflatedPucks


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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
no one does
- DeflatedPucks

Fact Check:

MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
The last time Sullivan did a "blender" lineup, it lasted 15 minutes....maybe less. Not going to get worked up over this mess.

It's funny.... Sullivan said how much he admires Belichek. Also has said he's gleaned things from his coaching style. Then he proceeds to ignore the biggest things that makes him successful. Like letting performance determine playing time.

- madmike71



Youre right.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 1:01 PM ET
I cared but thought for sure you used a Pen as the other player haha.
- MattStrat

No I wanted to use a D man that once cleared waivers that is very similar. Wings fans have been all about Fowler because he is a Michigan boy so I am all too familiar with his lack of abilities.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 1:02 PM ET
The last time Sullivan did a "blender" lineup, it lasted 15 minutes....maybe less. Not going to get worked up over this mess.

It's funny.... Sullivan said how much he admires Belichek. Also has said he's gleaned things from his coaching style. Then he proceeds to ignore the biggest things that makes him successful. Like letting performance determine playing time.

- madmike71

The concern is the attempt of doing something illogical imo not that it wont last very long.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Washington, DC
Joined: 06.17.2014

Feb 11 @ 1:03 PM ET
Fact Check:


- Feds91Stammer

You can’t out GIF Deflated Pucks on his own home court of political GIFs.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 1:04 PM ET
You can’t out GIF Deflated Pucks on his own home court of political GIFs.
- Victoro311

exactly why that one was chosen
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Feb 11 @ 1:05 PM ET
Really thought JuSchu would be back in the lineup before Geno, but I'll take it.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: Even Holland couldn't mess that up, FL
Joined: 02.01.2012

Feb 11 @ 1:06 PM ET
Really thought JuSchu would be back in the lineup before Geno, but I'll take it.
- MattStrat

JuJu Smith-Schuster?
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