Peter Tessier: Duck Hunting in Winnipeg Jets host the Ducks, can they build on solid outing vs Columbus?

Today @ 3:02 PM ET
Petan has had better NHL numbers than Connor and Roslovic, if we’re going by rate, which we are because we’re educated.
- Rexypoo


I assume this is just another fake news statement by Rexy. I don't even have to look to know your not even close to being correct. Rate = either points per minute or points per 60 min . ( P/60). Impossible that Connor is not at least double the rate of Petan. Roslovic would be better than Petan as well.

Edit: So I found the numbers. Yep , fake news.

Roslovic :

2017-18 P/60 = 2.20
2018-19 . P/60 = 1.59

Connor :

2016-17 . p/60= 1.23
2017-18 P/60 = 2.66
2018-19 . P/60 = 2.50

Petan:

2016-17 . p/60= 1.33
2017-18 P/60 = 0.95
2018-19 . P/60 = 1.28

We will now all get ready for your latest excuse.


Edit: I guess after tonight Roslovic's 2018-19 numbers will probably be 1.75.

Today @ 3:50 PM ET


Additionally, the LCA 4th line is constantly being massacred in all 3 zones. They’re getting incredibly lucky, and Copp is doing his utter best to cover for both
- Rexypoo


Hmmm. The WFP just published an article today on that subject which was backed by the stats for Corsica.Hockey. Jets fourth line is tops in the league. The eye test says the same, they've been very good. Maurice has also been praising them as such.

If you think they are being " constantly massacred in all 3 zones " then I'd hate to see what all the other NHL team's more inferior 4th lines in the league look like.

Edit: After two periods the fourth line is once again clearly demonstrating that they are definitely the best 4th line in the league

That’s it, I am officially a Lemieux fan! The man is a poor mans version of Mathew Tkachuk.

Another strong game for the 4th line. Best 4th line in the NHL.

That’s it, I am officially a Lemieux fan! The man is a poor mans version of Mathew Tkachuk.
- TheUltimateJet

Good analogy about a poor man's Tkachuk. The line seems to work and Lemieux and Appleton continue to grow, particularily with Copp as center. Lemieux continues to plug steadily along, plying his craft and steadily picking up points and contributing and most importantly, defying the naysayers!

Good analogy about a poor man's Tkachuk. The line seems to work and Lemieux and Appleton continue to grow, particularily with Copp as center. Lemieux continues to plug steadily along, plying his craft and steadily picking up points and contributing and most importantly, defying the naysayers!
- CharlieDog

I seem to recall being told that Lemieux was only playing because his dad had a meeting with Maurice.
Of course, that was just after the same guy told me how good Kovalchuk is.

Good analogy about a poor man's Tkachuk. The line seems to work and Lemieux and Appleton continue to grow, particularily with Copp as center. Lemieux continues to plug steadily along, plying his craft and steadily picking up points and contributing and most importantly, defying the naysayers!
- CharlieDog

Yes. Good analogy.

Maurice has been masterful in putting these lines together and sticking with it until the chemistry developed, which is something we have now been seeing over the last five games. I just wonder what will happen when Ehlers comes back. Do we need Ehlers on the PP when Roslovic has been so effective? Where does Roslovic go if Ehlers gets placed on the second line.? Right now the PLT line has been very good. It was a bit better with Copp on it, however, Copp seems to be playing exceptionally well on the fourth line. Roslovic should not be on either of those lines as they are both grinder type lines and don't suit his game. Keeping the current chemistry is also very important. Therefore Roslovic, very strangely after a four-point night, might actually find himself as the odd man out here.

Then there is the 2nd line 5 vs 5. Little has been great, there is no argument there. He has 14 points in his last 11. Ehlers or Connor will be on that line when Ehlers comes back. So its Laine that has been really the only current weak link of all forwards. Now we hear talk of a Kevin Hayes, Brassard, type player. Where would he fit ? You don't give up the farm to put him anywhere below the second line and there is no way they trade Little. Right now if Trocheck and his freindly LT contract was offered for Laine I'd jump on it. Jets would win the cup. Laine would be united with his pal Barkov.Move Little to fourth line, Copp or Lemieux in press box as depth. All good.

Second line Ehlers- Trocheck- Roslovic. I'm drooling at the thought of it. Bring it on.

I seem to recall being told that Lemieux was only playing because his dad had a meeting with Maurice.
Of course, that was just after the same guy told me how good Kovalchuk is.
- bennythehat

Was at the game last night ... not much I can say, really, the score speaks for itself

Saturday night at the Arena, cold $11 draft, and a 9-3 win ... the Ducks laid down and the Jets took advantage

I like what I see and it seems to be getting better ... last night was like one of those sleepy losses - - understand what happened and move on quickly ... San Jose here Tuesday

When Chevy makes his moves (not "if", "when") I sure hope he doesn't dip too far into the prospect pool ... there is an opp to upgrade for the run - and we should ... just hate to see us lose a Roslo, Appleton, Lemiuex, Copp, etc

With the exception of Poolman - go gut the Moose roster ... add our 1st rounder if you like

I know this might be wishful thinking

Why do I always read how good the Ducks D are. Lindholm, Fowler, Manson and Montour all looked horawful last night!!!!

Why do I always read how good the Ducks D are. Lindholm, Fowler, Manson and Montour all looked horawful last night!!!!
- Ross77

Defence is so overrated in today’s NHL and last night proved it! The Ducks d-corps is better than the last three cup champs.

Also of interest the Jets actually rolled their lines, it was the first time Scheifele’s ice time was below 20 minutes in a very very long time.

Defence is so overrated in today’s NHL and last night proved it! The Ducks d-corps is better than the last three cup champs.

Also of interest the Jets actually rolled their lines, it was the first time Scheifele’s ice time was below 20 minutes in a very very long time.
- TheUltimateJet

I think Anaheim's bigger problem is they are for the most part a one-line team. It seems most one-line teams in the NHL are getting crushed in the standings. Even Colorado's fantastic first line can't support them most nights. So Colorado and Anaheim have fallen from first to out of the playoffs, and one-line teams like Edmonton, Chicago, LAK, and Buffalo are all sub-.500 teams. If you can put one or two good checking lines against any of these teams then they are in trouble. Winnipeg has four solid lines to do that job, so does Tampa, Nashville, and Calgary.
In the playoffs, the extra clutching, grinding, and hitting makes it obviously tougher on those top lines so its so important to have four good lines rolling. In my opinion, a healthy Jets team are really setting up well for another deep playoff run. Maurice and his team are right on track here.

It would be nice if the Laine problem could get solved though. His only value is on the PP where even if he doesn't score on his lethal shot he draws defenders towards him which creates more space for Scheif, Connor , and Wheeler. Otherwise 5 vs 5 he is a definite liability. Trading him for the right long term cap-friendly asset(s) while the Jets are in Cup mode would not be the worst idea. Trocheck, Couturier, M. Tkachuk, and Larkin all would make sense. I'm not sure if any of those teams would even consider it though.

I think Anaheim's bigger problem is they are for the most part a one-line team. It seems most one-line teams in the NHL are getting crushed in the standings. Even Colorado's fantastic first line can't support them most nights. So Colorado and Anaheim have fallen from first to out of the playoffs, and one-line teams like Edmonton, Chicago, LAK, and Buffalo are all sub-.500 teams. If you can put one or two good checking lines against any of these teams then they are in trouble. Winnipeg has four solid lines to do that job, so does Tampa, Nashville, and Calgary.
In the playoffs, the extra clutching, grinding, and hitting makes it obviously tougher on those top lines so its so important to have four good lines rolling. In my opinion, a healthy Jets team are really setting up well for another deep playoff run. Maurice and his team are right on track here.

It would be nice if the Laine problem could get solved though. His only value is on the PP where even if he doesn't score on his lethal shot he draws defenders towards him which creates more space for Scheif, Connor , and Wheeler. Otherwise 5 vs 5 he is a definite liability. Trading him for the right long term cap-friendly asset(s) while the Jets are in Cup mode would not be the worst idea. Trocheck, Couturier, M. Tkachuk, and Larkin all would make sense. I'm not sure if any of those teams would even consider it though.
- jetsnation

Boston’s not a bad one line team

I really don't get what Maurice is doing with Laine. It's a 30 game slump yet he's been playing with Little for all those games. The Jets have an 18 point lead on 9th in the conference, would it really hurt to move Laine either up to the first line or down to the third line to try and get him going.

I really don't get what Maurice is doing with Laine. It's a 30 game slump yet he's been playing with Little for all those games. The Jets have an 18 point lead on 9th in the conference, would it really hurt to move Laine either up to the first line or down to the third line to try and get him going.
- BWJumper

Maybe Laine needs to get himself going ??

Boston’s not a bad one line team
- Ross77

I considered Boston but I think that Krejci , DeBrusk, and Backes are pretty damn good players although they don't always play together. Let's call them at least a two-line team . I don't think they go far in the playoffs.

I really don't get what Maurice is doing with Laine. It's a 30 game slump yet he's been playing with Little for all those games. The Jets have an 18 point lead on 9th in the conference, would it really hurt to move Laine either up to the first line or down to the third line to try and get him going.
- BWJumper

This is a great observation! Little and Laine continue to prove they have no chemistry with one another. I am unsure if anyone remembers that last year, prior to Stastny coming on board Laine was having success with Copp. It would be fascinating to see how Laine performs with Appleton and Copp. I would like the Jets to try the following lines when Ehlers returns.

Ehlers-Scheifele-Wheeler
Connor-Roslovic-Little
Laine-Copp-Appleton/Perreault
Perreault/Lemieux-Lowry-Tanev

Good analogy about a poor man's Tkachuk. The line seems to work and Lemieux and Appleton continue to grow, particularily with Copp as center. Lemieux continues to plug steadily along, plying his craft and steadily picking up points and contributing and most importantly, defying the naysayers!
- CharlieDog

https://twitter.com/maxth.../1092753076979728384?s=21

He is the bankrupt man’s Tkachuk

A friend of mine gave me an awesome suggestion last night. He said if the Jets are concerned about cap problems we should do the following trade:

To EDM: Patrik Laine, Kyle Connor

To WPG: Connor McDavid

Also smart move move by the Leafs not giving Mathews an 8 year deal. The Jets should be taking notes. Laine should not get more than 4 years.

A friend of mine gave me an awesome suggestion last night. He said if the Jets are concerned about cap problems we should do the following trade:

To EDM: Patrik Laine, Kyle Connor

To WPG: Connor McDavid
- TheUltimateJet

And you think that Edmonton would make that trade ?

And you think that Edmonton would make that trade ?
- bennythehat

According to Rexy, Laine is a "generational" goal scorer.

I also suggested it to say that no one on this team is untouchable.

Also smart move move by the Leafs not giving Mathews an 8 year deal. The Jets should be taking notes. Laine should not get more than 4 years.
- TheUltimateJet

I'm not sure how smart it is to give a second-line center who has had an average season (and rarely hits or blocks a shot ) $11.63 MM a year. Seems way too rich to me. Once again it makes me wonder what a guy like Matthew Tkachuk is going to get if Matthews gets $11.63 per. Tkachuk has easily had the better season on every comparable metric as a similar second-line center. The Matthews contract also certainly doesn't help our Laine situation.

...Also on the UFA trade deadline situation please take note of injuries such as the one we saw Edler take last night. You can imagine a situation where you give up a valuable 1st round pick and a prospect to get a guy early, like Pittsburgh and Toronto did with Bjugstad and Muzzin, only to watch them get a season-ending injury. The Jets are in a great position in the standings as opposed to being in the midst of a playoff battle so it makes complete sense for them to wait as long as possible before making a deal.

According to Rexy, Laine is a "generational" goal scorer.

I also suggested it to say that no one on this team is untouchable.
- TheUltimateJet

When you throw the name McDavid out there, nobody indeed would be untouchable.