Feds91Stammer
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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Someone tell me how to feel about this trade - Guile
Neutral would be your best option. |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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He has to be the de facto 3C unless something changes. The Penguins have no one else that can handle that role. No way old man Cullen can play it. I like Teddy Blueger, but he isnt ready for it yet either.
Plus the Penguins already have their RWers, I cant see anything changing there.
Penguins need to sit Cullen. He isnt giving us anything and when ZAR gets back, they will have a log jam of bottom liners: Blueger, Wilson, ZAR, McCann, Rust, Simon, Bjugstad. That's 7 guys, all of whom I think are better than Cullen. No reason to keep playing him. - SuperHenderson13
I could see them thinking
Jake - Sid - Bjugstad
Rust - Geno - Kessel
Pearson - McCann - Horny
LOL - LOL - LOL |
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sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: CO Joined: 05.05.2011
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Someone tell me how to feel about this trade... while i look at charts and graphs. - Guile
Let me mansplain it to you. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Well best of luck Sheahan, I really did like ya, hope you have success down there....Brassard Im a tiny bit jaded with and I really think you'll see better production down the line...but the guy has been traded a lot, bit of a diva perhaps? |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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I could see them thinking
Jake - Sid - Bjugstad
Rust - Geno - Kessel
Pearson - McCann - Horny
LOL - LOL - LOL - Feds91Stammer
Yeah...i just picked up Bjugstad in my 16 man yahoo hockey pool just in case hahah |
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I like the trade from both sides. We got younger and maybe we’ve seen the ceiling from Bjugstad but I think McCann has more to give. I’m curious how our lines are going to shake out now. I like the move for FL as well. Obviously they’re clearing space and looking to bring in some guys in the offseason. I could honestly see them trading a 2020 1st in a package with Brassard + for Panarin if both teams can start negotiating extensions. It makes some sense |
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Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Somewhere, NJ Joined: 01.21.2016
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I honestly love this trade despite Bjugstad will probably take a little time to adjust to C.
Obviously we have to wait and see, but I like it. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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Neutral would be your best option. - Feds91Stammer
I'm going to go with positive since I've hated Brassard's time here. Obviously don't know what the other options were. I've seen some damn goods game out of Bjugstad but honestly haven't watched the Panthers much. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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I'm going to go with positive since I've hated Brassard's time here. Obviously don't know what the other options were. I've seen some damn goods game out of Bjugstad but honestly haven't watched the Panthers much. - madmike71
This is like Christmas for you hahaha |
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I could see them thinking
Jake - Sid - Bjugstad
Rust - Geno - Kessel
Pearson - McCann - Horny
LOL - LOL - LOL - Feds91Stammer
The Sid line of Jake-Sid-Horny is pretty much set in stone, but Horny has had success on the 3rd line. Not sure why we'd try to fix the 1st line, the first line isnt the problem. The problem is getting little production from our third line, not sure adding McCann to that 3C spot helps, even with better wingers.
I would bet Rutherford wants that 3rd line to be bigger (which is funny considering we won two cups with speed). Unless something goes wrong, have to think Bjugstad starts on the third line. Not worth debating extensively until we hear from Rutherford. He is pretty candid so I'm sure he will flat out say where Bjugstad is going to play. |
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CHART TIME!
3 year look at the two new bloods
This year
Brass and Sheahan this year, incase we havn't seen it enough. (Sheahan near the same over 3 years, not much better... Brass... we know he 'was' better).
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22 year old, 30-35 point, former 1st round pick. Wouldn't expect any progression past that level really. - Feds91Stammer
He was projecting as middle 6 when drafted in Vancouver. Personally, I like the kid and I think he’s actually going to be a 40-45 point player as he continues into his mid 20’s |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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I honestly love this trade despite Bjugstad will probably take a little time to adjust to C.
Obviously we have to wait and see, but I like it. - Rinosaur
Concern would be that the only "good" season the past 2.5 seasons was while he was playing wing and primarily riding the coattails of Barkov and Dadonov who are both absolute studs. |
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The Sid line of Jake-Sid-Horny is pretty much set in stone, but Horny has had success on the 3rd line. Not sure why we'd try to fix the 1st line, the first line isnt the problem. The problem is getting little production from our third line, not sure adding McCann to that 3C spot helps, even with better wingers.
I would bet Rutherford wants that 3rd line to be bigger (which is funny considering we won two cups with speed). Unless something goes wrong, have to think Bjugstad starts on the third line. Not worth debating extensively until we hear from Rutherford. He is pretty candid so I'm sure he will flat out say where Bjugstad is going to play. - SuperHenderson13
I don’t think anyone can say Hornqvist playing with Sid is set in stone. Didn’t Hornqvist play all of last game with Brass or was that 2 games ago? Regardless, he’s been moved all over this year and certainly isn’t a lock to stick with anyone. Doesn’t he typically look better with Malkin anyways? I certainly think so. He even got some time with Geno AND Phil last game, didn’t he? |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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This is like Christmas for you hahaha - MattStrat
Nah..... Getting rid of Sheary was like Christmas for me.....maybe getting a car for Christmas. This was more of a nice 4th of July for me. I do love the 4th of July however. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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Nah..... Getting rid of Sheary was like Christmas for me.....maybe getting a car for Christmas. This was more of a nice 4th of July for me. I do love the 4th of July however. - madmike71
hahaha |
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Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings |
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Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC Joined: 02.01.2012
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He was projecting as middle 6 when drafted in Vancouver. Personally, I like the kid and I think he’s actually going to be a 40-45 point player as he continues into his mid 20’s - WSCTeton17
He has a lot of work to do. He does almost none of the little things well. |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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Its not a sexy trade, but I think I like it. We get two options to try at 3C in Bjugstad and McCann, so the probability that something works is decent here. Brassard simply wasn't working out, and while I think at one time in the near past Brassard was vastly better than Bjugstad, that may not be the case anymore. I floated the idea of Bjugstad back when we needed to replace Bones, so I don't dislike him, but I don't expect him to be a world beater.
McCann seems like that guy that's perpetually on the verge of a breakout and never actually does so I have no idea how he'll work out. Can he play wing or is he a strict C?
EDIT: replace Bones* not trade Bones |
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LOL the streak continues! McCann will wear #19 in Pitt. Have we ever won a cup with a #19 on the regular roster? Does anyone know this? |
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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes |
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Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK Joined: 09.21.2009
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He was projecting as middle 6 when drafted in Vancouver. Personally, I like the kid and I think he’s actually going to be a 40-45 point player as he continues into his mid 20’s - WSCTeton17
He's the same age as Draisaitl, Nylander, Ehlers, Vrana, etc.
I wouldn't expect much more progression from him going forward. |
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bikeguy99
New Jersey Devils |
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Joined: 09.05.2017
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Ryan Wilson: Schenn will the Penguins make their move for a third line center?
Schenn will the Penguins make their move for a third line center? - Ryan_Wilson
How about Marcus Johansson??? Currently playing LW for the Devs but was previously a C when he played for the Caps. Great vision, great conditioning, and 30 playoff points in 72 games would be exactly what you need as a rental 3C. Probably get him for a 2nd rd, become 1st should he remain a pen (which would likely not be the case). |
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Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: San Diego, CA Joined: 06.17.2014
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LOL the streak continues! McCann will wear #19 in Pitt. Have we ever won a cup with a #19 on the regular roster? Does anyone know this? - WSCTeton17
Beau was still rostered when we won the Cup in 15-16, but he didn't play enough to get his name on the Cup. I don't know why guys here keep picking that number. Its obviously (frank)ing cursed. |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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LOL the streak continues! McCann will wear #19 in Pitt. Have we ever won a cup with a #19 on the regular roster? Does anyone know this? - WSCTeton17
Trottier 1991 & 1992 |
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MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF Joined: 12.12.2014
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How about Marcus Johansson??? Currently playing LW for the Devs but was previously a C when he played for the Caps. Great vision, great conditioning, and 30 playoff points in 72 games would be exactly what you need as a rental 3C. Probably get him for a 2nd rd, become 1st should he remain a pen (which would likely not be the case). - bikeguy99
Id really like having him. |
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j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Tampa, FL Joined: 06.14.2011
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He's the same age as Draisaitl, Nylander, Ehlers, Vrana, etc.
I wouldn't expect much more progression from him going forward. - BINGO!
^^This. |
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