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MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 4:26 PM ET
Typos
Horrible grammar
Incorrect timeline of events

Pretty sure I'll never read another of his blogs.

- Scoob



Yeah, Ill never get those 3 minutes of my life back.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:27 PM ET
So the team doesn't need to improve it's goal tending and offense? If we are in agreement that the team needs to improve everywhere, and that we probably won't be challenging for the cup next year, then we sure as hell should not be trading Simmonds for a 4-5 Dman. I'd rather get a first round pick and let our young Dmen play all of this year and next. Hell, come January next year all of our young D could be better than Murray. Simmonds for him would be foolish and a waste.
- ClaudeFather


Murray for Simmonds would be a really good deal for the Flyers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:28 PM ET
It's not about improving just for next season. How much longer do you think he can continue to score 30?

I think that's why I'm feeling neither side will agree on the length.

- Pelle31Forever


I believe there a number of reasons why trading Simmonds has merit. The poster simply failed to make one.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:28 PM ET
My goal for a Simmonds trade would be something like this:

To Boston: Simmonds
To Philadelphia: Ryan Donato, conditional 3rd rounder on if Boston gets to the finals then turns to first rounder, or turns to first rounder if Simmonds re signs.

or

To Toronto: Simmonds, Hagg, 2019 4th rounder
To Philadelphia: Jeremy Bracco, Mason Marchment, Nikita Zeitsev, 2019 3rd
rounder

- J35Bacher



I wouldn’t touch Zeitsev....Toronto has some nice pieces, better then these. They are also going to have trouble paying everyone going forward. I think they are ripe to give up more because of this...just a guess on my part.

The Boston one is interesting although I haven’t been a big fan of Donato.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 28 @ 4:31 PM ET
Murray for Simmonds would be a really good deal for the Flyers.
- MJL

We have a good chance of having 6 Dmen in the from the minors and our roster all being better than Murray by next January, maybe even the start of next season. Stupid trade.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:32 PM ET
We have a good chance of having 6 Dmen in the from the minors and our roster all being better than Murray by next January, maybe even the start of next season. Stupid trade.
- ClaudeFather


Name those 6
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 28 @ 4:35 PM ET
Name those 6
- MJL

Gudas
Provorov
Meyers
Hagg
Ghost
Sanheim
Morin
Very real chance 6 out of those 7 will be better than him. Gudas, Provy, Sanheim, and Ghost already are. We do not need Ryan Franking Murray.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:39 PM ET
Gudas
Provorov
Meyers
Hagg
Ghost
Sanheim
Morin
Very real chance 6 out of those 7 will be better than him. Gudas, Provy, Sanheim, and Ghost already are. We do not need Ryan Franking Murray.

- ClaudeFather


Gudas and Sanheim are not already better than he is. On that list, by next January, I'd rank Murray as 3rd possibly 4th depending on how fast Sanheim continues to develop.

I do agree with those who feel that his injury history is a big concern.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Jan 28 @ 4:40 PM ET
Just read Garth's blog.

If the Flyers trade Couturier I am going to burn down the team offices.

Carry on .

- MBFlyerfan



I think you have the 100% untouchables in Hart and Provy..
Then the 99.9999999999% untouchables in Coots and Patrick.
Then the 99.1% untouchable in Giroux.

Coots is young enough and really hasnt hit his prime yet that he should be viewed as part of the core now and in 2-4 years when they should be serious contenders. You just dont move him unless you are getting a Hedman or similar player back which you wont...
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 28 @ 4:40 PM ET
Just read Garth's blog.

If the Flyers trade Couturier I am going to burn down the team offices.

Carry on .

- MBFlyerfan

You should know better than to pay attention to Garth.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 28 @ 4:41 PM ET
Gudas and Sanheim are not already better than he is. On that list, by next January, I'd rank Murray as 3rd possibly 4th depending on how fast Sanheim continues to develop.
- MJL

I'd rather have Gudas and Sanheim over Murray any day of the week.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:42 PM ET
Just read Garth's blog.

If the Flyers trade Couturier I am going to burn down the team offices.

Carry on .

- MBFlyerfan


I was with him somewhat until that Coot’s trade...WTF was that ?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:44 PM ET
I'd rather have Gudas and Sanheim over Murray any day of the week.
- ClaudeFather


I wouldn't trade Sanheim for Murray but I certainly would Gudas.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:45 PM ET
Yeah, Ill never get those 3 minutes of my life back.
- MBFlyerfan


Someone should tell him that Hextall was fired before Hakstol.

Those names he mentioned for Couturier! They need to reevaluate who they have writing for them.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 28 @ 4:46 PM ET
I wouldn't trade Sanheim for Murray but I certainly would Gudas.
- MJL

If by next January Ryan Murray was our third or fourth defenseman we have a LONG way to go filling out this team.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 28 @ 4:49 PM ET
Just read Garth's blog.

If the Flyers trade Couturier I am going to burn down the team offices.

Carry on .

- MBFlyerfan


What!!!?

Fletcher’s handful of other players that don’t make sense to trade include Couturier, Provorov, and Hart. After the Giroux won’t be traded comment to silence the idiots about Giroux, now come the rash of idiots about these three. The fight for sanity in Flyers fandom never ends.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:52 PM ET
If by next January Ryan Murray was our third or fourth defenseman we have a LONG way to go filling out this team.
- ClaudeFather


Murray is a much better player than you think he is. Don't worry though, I don't think Columbus would make that deal anyway.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 28 @ 4:53 PM ET
Murray is a much better player than you think he is. Don't worry though, I don't think Columbus would make that deal anyway.
- MJL

I'll note this for Feb 1 2020, maybe we can revisit this convo.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 28 @ 4:59 PM ET
I'll note this for Feb 1 2020, maybe we can revisit this convo.
- ClaudeFather


Good for you. Nothing will change though.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 28 @ 5:00 PM ET
Good for you. Nothing will change though.
- MJL

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 28 @ 5:11 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-304280778
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 28 @ 5:16 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-304280778
- MBFlyerfan

I feel good about this.
Hokeeguy9
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bethlehem, PA
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 28 @ 5:27 PM ET
Just read Garth's blog.

If the Flyers trade Couturier I am going to burn down the team offices.

Carry on .

- MBFlyerfan


Your first mistake was reading Garf’s blog! He gets dumber with each one he posts. ‘Nuff said.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jan 28 @ 5:29 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-304280778
- MBFlyerfan


He seems well reasoned, thoughtful and I think he deserves a shot at getting this thing turned around. Hextall drafted well, but I’m not sure he could have taken this team to the next level. Obviously there’s no guarantee that Fletcher is that guy either, but he’s smart and experienced and I think he has the capability to make the moves necessary to get this team back into Cup contention soon.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jan 28 @ 5:38 PM ET
https://www.nhl.com/flyer...elphia-flyers/c-304280778
- MBFlyerfan

Love everything he said. Obviously there are a couple other untouchables but they're quite young and you don't want to give kids with room to grow an ego.

I think Simmonds will be dealt. It just doesn't make sense for us to give him the kind of deal someone is going to overpay for on the open market. If the re-signs it will be due to him taking a big discount to stay put imo.

But yeah, he's just crooked Dave Scott's yes man.
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