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TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 24 @ 2:24 PM ET
Bowman should find out if Ryan Kesler is available. He's big and tough and he hits like no other human being ....
- paulr

I’m assuming this is sarcastic.

Kesler is currently on the IR, is 34 years old, has three more years at a near $7 mil cap hit, and has a COMBINED 20 points these last two years (he’s played in only 88 games as well due to an array of injuries).

If there’s anyone in the league with a worse contract than Seabs/Lucic, it’s Kesler.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jan 24 @ 2:25 PM ET
tread on that tire is almost non existent, kudos to his agent for securing him that deal
- glennjpawlak22
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For real. 3 more years at nearly 7M for basically a 4C who's only skill at this point is winning FO's. And people wanna complain about Kruger's 3M deal
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 24 @ 2:26 PM ET
He also wrote that a number of contenders are interested in Kunitz (despite what the knowledgeable posters here opine) and that Calgary was a potential destination.
- scottak

The Hawks don’t have their 7th rounder in this year’s draft, but they have Anaheim’s. I could see something like Kunitz for a 2019 7th from Calgary taking place minutes before the deadline.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jan 24 @ 2:28 PM ET
The Hawks don’t have their 7th rounder in this year’s draft, but they have Anaheim’s. I could see something like Kunitz for a 2019 7th from Calgary taking place minutes before the deadline.
- TommyHawk


I'd be more than fine with this deal. Calgary gets their veteran presence for the Playoff push and we clear a roster spot to give a young guy a shot. Win-win
tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 24 @ 2:28 PM ET
AA, Gus, Kruger (and anyone else you'd like to move) for McDavid. And Edmonton would eat 50% of McDavid's contract.
- paulr


Might have happened a couple of days ago but now that Chiarelli is gone I just don't see it happening!
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 24 @ 2:29 PM ET
Spooner is awful this deal would really hose chicago. I heard their 1st was on the table that would make it easier. But pass on spooner.
- Taylorst1

If their 1st is truly on the table, I’m licking my chops if I’m Bowman and doing whatever I can to acquire it.

We’re talking about another top 12-15 pick. Teams that are usually this bad at this point of the season don’t decide to go for it, nor do they dangle their 1st.
TommyHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 24 @ 2:31 PM ET
I'd be more than fine with this deal. Calgary gets their veteran presence for the Playoff push and we clear a roster spot to give a young guy a shot. Win-win
- Savetheembers33

Oh absolutely. Hell, I’d even trade Hayden if it meant getting Calgary’s 4th or 5th round pick.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jan 24 @ 2:34 PM ET
Oh absolutely. Hell, I’d even trade Hayden if it meant getting Calgary’s 4th or 5th round pick.
- TommyHawk


Hahaha you read my mind! I was thinking the same thing man. I was wondering who else we could possibly package to go out and Hayden crossed my mind as well. Might be a buy low guy that could interest them
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jan 24 @ 2:35 PM ET
If their 1st is truly on the table, I’m licking my chops if I’m Bowman and doing whatever I can to acquire it.

We’re talking about another top 12-15 pick. Teams that are usually this bad at this point of the season don’t decide to go for it, nor do they dangle their 1st.

- TommyHawk

Edmonton's 1st is not on the table. That was made clear by Nicholson at his press conference yesterday.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jan 24 @ 2:38 PM ET
Edmonton's 1st is not on the table. That was made clear by Nicholson at his press conference yesterday.
- RickJ


Well they have said its on the table and depending on the deal they may chose to give it up
CanOCorn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The OP, IL
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
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Something with Keith and Nurse makes sense for both sides. Especially if the Hawks are going to take Rieder back as well. Balances the salaries out. I like the idea of adding Spooner cuz of the possible upside, but Bowman may pass as it would create a bit of a logjam at C until they could maybe move AA out before the deadline

- Savetheembers33


Wasn't too long ago that the board was screaming about the lack of Cs on the team.
powerenforcer
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Wheeling, IL
Joined: 09.24.2009

Jan 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
Edmonton's 1st is not on the table. That was made clear by Nicholson at his press conference yesterday.
- RickJ


Yea, they have done so well with first round picks.......Maybe they do need to change things up and pick in later rounds instead.
CanOCorn
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: The OP, IL
Joined: 04.03.2013

Jan 24 @ 2:42 PM ET
Well they have said its on the table and depending on the deal they may chose to give it up
- Taylorst1


The Oilers should have everything on the table except McDavid and probably Draisaitl.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jan 24 @ 2:46 PM ET
Well they have said its on the table and depending on the deal they may chose to give it up
- Taylorst1

Its not available and the Oilers know they need to draft youth and develop those players properly instead of being in cap hell with a bunch of players who are overpaid and not good enough to play in the NHL - like Spooner, Rattie, Lucic, Brodziak and a few others.
tyweb69
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jan 24 @ 2:49 PM ET
Edmonton's 1st is not on the table. That was made clear by Nicholson at his press conference yesterday.
- RickJ


I just don't see anything the Hawks can trade that EDM would want (save for Kane) that would get us their #1 pick. Unless we packaged a couple of higher end prospects but that kind of defeats the purpose.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jan 24 @ 2:50 PM ET
Yea, they have done so well with first round picks.......Maybe they do need to change things up and pick in later rounds instead.
- powerenforcer

That's an idea - trade their 1st to a team who will give them all their picks between the 2nd and 7th rounds
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jan 24 @ 2:53 PM ET
The Oilers should have everything on the table except McDavid and probably Draisaitl.
- CanOCorn



Yes I completely agree. Unless the deal was something that they couldn't pass up. But your right everything for now especially because they have 51k in available cap space they need to be flexible
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jan 24 @ 2:56 PM ET
Its not available and the Oilers know they need to draft youth and develop those players properly instead of being in cap hell with a bunch of players who are overpaid and not good enough to play in the NHL - like Spooner, Rattie, Lucic, Brodziak and a few others.
- RickJ




I just read that, however what they say in public and what is discussed behind the scenes and needed to put the deal over the top to complete is a different story .

Example Debrincat going to Edmonton you know Chicago is getting edmontons 1st and they know their giving it up.
Savetheembers33
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.23.2017

Jan 24 @ 2:57 PM ET
Its not available and the Oilers know they need to draft youth and develop those players properly instead of being in cap hell with a bunch of players who are overpaid and not good enough to play in the NHL - like Spooner, Rattie, Lucic, Brodziak and a few others.
- RickJ


They're not really in cap hell. They only have like two or three bad contracts on the books. The rest are all smaller deals that are easy to move in deals and don't have a ton of term left on them. I'll agree that they are missing good NHL talent to put around the best player in the game, but sometimes its not about lack of talent but more so that the player just doesn't fit the scheme like Spooner. As I've put out there before, he's shown that he can be a very productive NHL player before he got traded from Boston to New York. Hasn't fit in like teams had hoped in New York or Edmonton. Sure he was put on waivers and any team could have had him if they wanted but everyone is mindful of the cap and what they have to work with. They'd rather trade something to give them some relief and get him then to just claim him outright.

Building through the draft is the best plan, but you need to have a Scouting Department that can actually eye talent and develop them something they have struggled mightly with over the years. Not to mention that they need to make the most out of having McDavid on that roster and try to win now. Future isn't guaranteed. Best believe if St. Louis calls and says they're willing to trade Parayko for their 1st, Puljujarvi, and one or two of their smaller contracts that 1st will be in play for them. All depends on the piece being offered up to them.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jan 24 @ 3:00 PM ET
I just don't see anything the Hawks can trade that EDM would want (save for Kane) that would get us their #1 pick. Unless we packaged a couple of higher end prospects but that kind of defeats the purpose.
- tyweb69


Saad, anismov, sikura, Keith, Seabrook , Gustafson kahun, Perlini, murphy, I'm sure a few of those players Edmonton would gladly be interested
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Jan 24 @ 3:05 PM ET
They're not really in cap hell. They only have like two or three bad contracts on the books. The rest are all smaller deals that are easy to move in deals and don't have a ton of term left on them. I'll agree that they are missing good NHL talent to put around the best player in the game, but sometimes its not about lack of talent but more so that the player just doesn't fit the scheme like Spooner. As I've put out there before, he's shown that he can be a very productive NHL player before he got traded from Boston to New York. Hasn't fit in like teams had hoped in New York or Edmonton. Sure he was put on waivers and any team could have had him if they wanted but everyone is mindful of the cap and what they have to work with. They'd rather trade something to give them some relief and get him then to just claim him outright.

Building through the draft is the best plan, but you need to have a Scouting Department that can actually eye talent and develop them something they have struggled mightly with over the years. Not to mention that they need to make the most out of having McDavid on that roster and try to win now. Future isn't guaranteed. Best believe if St. Louis calls and says they're willing to trade Parayko for their 1st, Puljujarvi, and one or two of their smaller contracts that 1st will be in play for them. All depends on the piece being offered up to them.

- Savetheembers33




My point exactly. If the Edmonton wants those players and he other team is asking for xyz including a 1st then it's a done deal or that team hangs up the phone
LAHawk
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 11.02.2017

Jan 24 @ 3:10 PM ET
Saad, anismov, sikura, Keith, Seabrook , Gustafson kahun, Perlini, murphy, I'm sure a few of those players Edmonton would gladly be interested
- Taylorst1


Anisimov, Keith, and Seabrook have NTC's. Why would they waive to go to a situation worse than the Hawks?
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jan 24 @ 3:11 PM ET
They're not really in cap hell. They only have like two or three bad contracts on the books. The rest are all smaller deals that are easy to move in deals and don't have a ton of term left on them. I'll agree that they are missing good NHL talent to put around the best player in the game, but sometimes its not about lack of talent but more so that the player just doesn't fit the scheme like Spooner. As I've put out there before, he's shown that he can be a very productive NHL player before he got traded from Boston to New York. Hasn't fit in like teams had hoped in New York or Edmonton. Sure he was put on waivers and any team could have had him if they wanted but everyone is mindful of the cap and what they have to work with. They'd rather trade something to give them some relief and get him then to just claim him outright.

Building through the draft is the best plan, but you need to have a Scouting Department that can actually eye talent and develop them something they have struggled mightly with over the years. Not to mention that they need to make the most out of having McDavid on that roster and try to win now. Future isn't guaranteed. Best believe if St. Louis calls and says they're willing to trade Parayko for their 1st, Puljujarvi, and one or two of their smaller contracts that 1st will be in play for them. All depends on the piece being offered up to them.

- Savetheembers33

I'm just telling you what Bob Nicholson said in his press conference yesterday - not trading their 1st round pick.

That said, if a deal is lopsided enough in their favour they would be silly not to give it up.

But a bunch of scrubs going there from Chicago isn't going to get that deal done.
wonthecup10
Season Ticket Holder
Joined: 02.05.2008

Jan 24 @ 3:16 PM ET
I would be interested in doing something like this. Zadorov is a Defensive minded D-Man who isn't afraid to get physical or stand up for his teamates either. Might be a smart guy to target and build with the core of upcoming D-men we have.
- Savetheembers33


I like that kid also, he lit someone up pretty good on the Kings a couple weeks ago, and because fighting is taken out of the game, which now reverts to if you check someone hard and clean you feel you have to defend yourself, but anyways what I’m trying to say is this kid was being challenged by Dion Phanuef, even though it is wrong I would’ve loved to seen him say OK let’s see what you got. And had a good scrap. But I totally agree with those on another front, it is a crock of crap that if you you hit someone good and hard and legal you have to defend yourself., That is all because the lawyers took a good old fashion hockey scrap out of the game. With the stupid instigator rule and suspensions. But yes I would love to see this kid in a hawk uniform. Probably not going to happen Though.
Scott1977
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Yorkville, IL
Joined: 08.30.2012

Jan 24 @ 3:23 PM ET
go and read what Elliot Friedman 31 thoughts is reporting.


He is also reporting teams have interest in Kunitz and Hayden

- Taylorst1

Kunitz yes Hayden no still think imo there upside to him and can be a valuable player going forward just needs playing time.
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