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youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:13 PM ET
The flyers buzz is in full force
- Alexzanki


Since your a CBJ fan let me ask your opinion. I was throwing around a trade idea earlier.... From a columbus prospective and knowing you want to compete this year and not lose Panarin and Bob for nothing would you do this?

To CBJ: Voracek, Simmonds, Jake Allen, 2019 Phi 2nd
To Philly: Panarin, Tarasenko
To STL: Bobrovsky, Conditional 2020 Flyers 1st, Conditional 2020 CBJ first
classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:14 PM ET
Why on earth would the Sens want pieces for this year??

But for the sake of argument I'll bite

To PHI

M. Stone 7.35M
C. Anderson 4.75M
M. Lajoie 0.710M
3rd round pick 2020* (OTT owns CLB 3rd round pick 2020, PHI receives highest pick)

To OTT

N. Patrick 0.925M
J. Voracek 8.25M
I. Provorov 0.894M
M. Neuvirth 2.5M
1st round pick 2019
3rd round pick 2020* (becomes 2nd round pick if Stone resigns)


That name should go over well with Flyers fans.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
Less crappy than the other one, but a turd is a turd no matter what
- obie
#1 center + second line W + #1 goalie

go over it again
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
To Ottawa

Morgan Frost
Travis Konecny
Andrew MacDonald
Michal Neuvirth
Jori Lehtera
2019 2nd (conditional 1st)

To Flyers

Matt Duchene (8 x 8m)
Stone
Bobby Ryan (30% retained contract)
Craig Anderson

Duchene - Giroux - Ryan
JVR - Couturier - Voracek
Laughton - Patrick - Simmonds*
------------------------------
Provorov - Sanheim
Gostisbehere - Gudas
Hagg - Folin
------------------------------
Anderson
McKenna
*teammates in Ottawa*


(send Hart back down)

- AlfieisKing


FTFY....
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:15 PM ET
Since your a CBJ fan let me ask your opinion. I was throwing around a trade idea earlier.... From a columbus prospective and knowing you want to compete this year and not lose Panarin and Bob for nothing would you do this?

To CBJ: Voracek, Simmonds, Jake Allen, 2019 Phi 2nd
To Philly: Panarin, Tarasenko
To STL: Bobrovsky, Conditional 2020 Flyers 1st, Conditional 2020 CBJ first

- youarewrong

Correct me if I'm wrong but the Flyers need a goalie
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:16 PM ET
FTFY....
- youarewrong

I don't know if Dorian F** ups the return on Stone but Stone AND Duchene in a trade would cost

Konecny, Frost, and Farabee
turdadactyl
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 06.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
Simmonds, Ghost and a prospect (not Frost) will go to LA for Doughty and Quick.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
To Ottawa

Morgan Frost
Travis Konecny
Andrew MacDonald
Michal Neuvirth Why he is done after this year?
Jori Lehtera Why he is done after this year?
2019 2nd (conditional 1st)

To Flyers

Matt Duchene (8 x 8m)
Bobby Ryan (30% retained contract)
Craig Anderson

Duchene - Giroux - Ryan
JVR - Couturier - Voracek
Laughton - Patrick - Simmonds*
------------------------------
Provorov - Sanheim
Gostisbehere - Gudas
Hagg - Folin
------------------------------
Anderson
McKenna
*teammates in Ottawa*


(send Hart back down)

- AlfieisKing


Why would you add Lehtera and Neuvirth, the Flyers have PLENTY of cap space where they don't need to dump them for 30 games. The team is not doing any favors for them by taking them.

On the other hand, Anderson and Ryan Ottawa needs to add to include them. No matter how many times you put Ryan in the top 6 for a lineup he will never be there, he takes Lehtera's spot on the 4th or scratched.

I wouldn't even trade you MacDonald, Lehtera and Neuvirth for Anderson and Ryan. Take them out.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
#1 center + second line W + #1 goalie

go over it again

- AlfieisKing


You mean a free agent, a salary dump and a has been goalie? I agree
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 2:17 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Flyers need a goalie
- AlfieisKing


Yea a good one though
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:18 PM ET
I don't know if Dorian F** ups the return on Stone but Stone AND Duchene in a trade would cost

Konecny, Frost, and Farabee

- AlfieisKing

Not when they are both UFA's
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:20 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Flyers need a goalie
- AlfieisKing


We need a someone temporary, just a decent guy that can split time with Hart. Bob will want a long deal.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:20 PM ET
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Flyers need a goalie
- AlfieisKing


Not since Hart has been playing and they still have a prospect named Sandstrom who is a notch below Hart hopefully coming over to NA next year. So do they need a starter? No.

The real question is do they need a short term GOOD starter? Yes and Anderson is not that.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:20 PM ET
Yea a good one though
- obie


Beat me to it
Kinger34
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: We may have already seen Matthews at his potential - SMBDragon, ON
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jan 11 @ 2:21 PM ET
You can actually develop a rationale for a team like the Flyers to use the trade deadline to grab talent for next year. Stone has been exceptional with the kids. He is a really strong character on and off the ice. The Flyers have some great young pieces and Stone would be a really good fit. But, it would be crazy for the Flyers to give up a 1st round pick and prospect at this point in their development.

A team like the Islanders, for example, are able to offer a mid round 1st, a good prospect and a roster player. I just don't see how the Flyers could structure a deal unless they involved a third team in the deal.

- spatso



Stone was dynamic with the kids in that Uber in Phoenix.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:22 PM ET
Not since Hart has been playing and they still have a prospect named Sandstrom who is a notch below Hart hopefully coming over to NA next year. So do they need a starter? No.

The real question is do they need a short term GOOD starter? Yes and Anderson is not that.

- Glak18


I would take Anderson as someone to split time with Hart. He isn't terrible, signed short term, and isnt Nuevirth.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:25 PM ET
You mean a free agent, a salary dump and a has been goalie? I agree
- obie


That's the problem, dude is so delusional that he really thinks Bobby Ryan is a top 6 winger. I wouldn't give Ottawa Dale Weise for Ryan (50% retained).

Then you have the 37 year old mummy with injury history and declined performance and he wants to sell him as a starter? (frank) you. Keep that to yourself
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:25 PM ET
Yea a good one though
- obie


Carey Price - 0.908 Sv% on a playoff contending team with Weber & Petry on the back end

Craig Anderson - 0.905 Sv% with an AHL/rookie filled D-core and a basement dwelling team

He's good

Not since Hart has been playing and they still have a prospect named Sandstrom who is a notch below Hart hopefully coming over to NA next year. So do they need a starter? No.

The real question is do they need a short term GOOD starter? Yes and Anderson is not that.

- Glak18

didn't know about Sandstrom -- all these guys are just names. Hart looks promising but #1 goalie in PHI....... desperately needed

Obviously the few who say Anderson isn't a good goalie don't watch him play. He had a crappy year last year - but he always does that, 1 good year and 1 bad. Numbers reflect that.
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 11 @ 2:27 PM ET
Not since Hart has been playing and they still have a prospect named Sandstrom who is a notch below Hart hopefully coming over to NA next year. So do they need a starter? No.

The real question is do they need a short term GOOD starter? Yes and Anderson is not that.

- Glak18


Historically Anderson has had a very noticeable habit of being 'on' one year, 'off' the next - it's very obvious looking at his stats. Now consider this is supposed to be an 'on' year, and check where he's at right now.

Inclined to believe they should try to offload him to any interested party, because if (when) he goes into 'off' mode next year... yikes.
obie
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 09.17.2005

Jan 11 @ 2:28 PM ET
Carey Price - 0.908 Sv% on a playoff contending team with Weber & Petry on the back end

Craig Anderson - 0.905 Sv% with an AHL/rookie filled D-core and a basement dwelling team

He's good


didn't know about Sandstrom -- all these guys are just names. Hart looks promising but #1 goalie in PHI....... desperately needed

Obviously the few who say Anderson isn't a good goalie don't watch him play. He had a crappy year last year - but he always does that, 1 good year and 1 bad. Numbers reflect that.

- AlfieisKing


So with that in mind, we can expect Anderson to be bad next year? At 38 and his last year under contract? Good selling point, I'm sure Philly will be all over it
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:29 PM ET
I would take Anderson as someone to split time with Hart. He isn't terrible, signed short term, and isnt Nuevirth.
- youarewrong


When you say split time, you mean place on IR to take Neuvirth's spot, but pay almost twice as much for Anderson?
Bartacus
Ottawa Senators
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.08.2019

Jan 11 @ 2:31 PM ET
Stone was dynamic with the kids in that Uber in Phoenix.
- Kinger34


Stone wasn't in that car, FYI.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 2:31 PM ET
Carey Price - 0.908 Sv% on a playoff contending team with Weber & Petry on the back end

Craig Anderson - 0.905 Sv% with an AHL/rookie filled D-core and a basement dwelling team

He's good


didn't know about Sandstrom -- all these guys are just names. Hart looks promising but #1 goalie in PHI....... desperately needed

Obviously the few who say Anderson isn't a good goalie don't watch him play. He had a crappy year last year - but he always does that, 1 good year and 1 bad. Numbers reflect that.

- AlfieisKing


Listen, Anderson would be a decent guy to split games with Hart I'll give you that. Ryan isn't a terrible player but he isn't worth even 70% of his contract. So you cant throw them into a deal and expect them to be valuable adds.

Add in that Duchene is UFA and you want our current top prospect (Frost) who is comparable to Giroux plus Konecny who is the closest thing we have to someone with speed that can shoot the puck and its not happening.... unless its for Duchene and Stone.
AlfieisKing
Ottawa Senators
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 11.05.2007

Jan 11 @ 2:32 PM ET
Stone wasn't in that car, FYI.
- Bartacus

classic321
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.04.2012

Jan 11 @ 2:33 PM ET



Any trade proposal that contains Provorov is hilarious.


A strong argument could be made for him being the most valuable asset on that team apart from their 1st round pick this year
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