It’s not surprising whatsoever. We all figured fletcher was hired as a puppet for Scott. Well there goes our 1st rounder. You know Ottawa wants in on the first round.
- Just5

he hopefully isn't dumb enough to move next Junes 1rst round pick unless its top 10 protected...then I would move it. Stone is a stud.

Yeah you keep minoring in lame sarcasm, but the fact your whole argument is based off 9 points in 13 games and that proves he plays great says it all. Obviously the Flyers need to trade Giroux because JvR is what makes this team tick.
- Glak18

For $7M this man better be scoring 30 goals a year. He has not played up to his contract but has looked better in recent games. He's never going to drive play or carry the puck through the neutral zone much so if he's not scoring it's tough to watch. That's the bottom line.

It’s not surprising whatsoever. We all figured fletcher was hired as a puppet for Scott. Well there goes our 1st rounder. You know Ottawa wants in on the first round.
- Just5

If, and I know it’s a big if, what Ek said is true then this organization really is a laughing stock.

The good thing is if we deal now we can send Simmonds to Ottawa....who may have future plans for Simmonds as a leader of a young team or they can easily flip him for picks. It just better NOT include our 1st this year.

To Ott: Simmonds, Farabee, 2020 1st, Elliot

To Phi: Stone, Anderson

OR we flip Simmonds now for a 1st and use it in a Stone package ourselves. Fine with that. They are not touching our 2019 1st
- Just5

that's do able.

The good thing is if we deal now we can send Simmonds to Ottawa....who may have future plans for Simmonds as a leader of a young team or they can easily flip him for picks. It just better NOT include our 1st this year.

To Ott: Simmonds, Farabee, 2020 1st, Elliot

To Phi: Stone, Anderson
- Just5

That's a lot. Anderson is a throw in, I wouldn't trade Elliott for him straight up.

So you are basically trading 2 1st and the value of Simmonds (1st? 1st and 2nd?) for a UFA Stone. Hopefully that means a cap friendly signed Stone for that price.

that's do able.
- landros 2

What does Stones next contract look like? We have some high priced guys as it is.

That's a lot. Anderson is a throw in, I wouldn't trade Elliott for him straight up.

So you are basically trading 2 1st and the value of Simmonds (1st? 1st and 2nd?) for a UFA Stone. Hopefully that means a cap friendly signed Stone for that price.
- Glak18

Anderson/Elliott is a wash. That’s what it will take I believe. They won’t make this trade if Stone isn’t agreeing to an immediate deal. Yea it’s going to take this. Stone is that good. Maybe sens throw us a B prospect or a 3rd

Perhaps we are getting a glimpse of Dave Scott’s solid business acumen. Does he know how the points system works in the NHL?

I hope he isn’t a gambler. Oh it’s a 1% chance to hit my card on the river? Better push all in!

What does Stones next contract look like? We have some high priced guys as it is.
- ClaudeFather

Prob around 9 per

Perhaps we are getting a glimpse of Dave Scott’s solid business acumen. Does he know how the points system works in the NHL?

I hope he isn’t a gambler. Oh it’s a 1% chance to hit my card on the river? Better push all in!
- StepfordSam

Being a buyer doesn't have to be for this year, not sure why people don't get that. Stone makes our team better now and in the future, in this example. I could see a scenario of us getting Stone and also selling a few pieces like Simmer and Raffl.

Prob around 9 per
- Just5

Around $33M tied up into Jake Stone G JVR, i don't hate it but thats around 40% of an $82M cap.

Being a buyer doesn't have to be for this year, not sure why people don't get that. Stone makes our team better now and in the future, in this example. I could see a scenario of us getting Stone and also selling a few pieces like Simmer and Raffl.
- ClaudeFather

Stone will require the selling of a key asset not named Simmonds or Raffl. No thanks

What does Stones next contract look like? We have some high priced guys as it is.
- ClaudeFather

I think 7.5 or 8 for 7-8 years.... It might mean somebody high priced on the way out.

Anderson/Elliott is a wash. That’s what it will take I believe. They won’t make this trade if Stone isn’t agreeing to an immediate deal. Yea it’s going to take this. Stone is that good. Maybe sens throw us a B prospect or a 3rd
- Just5

stone is that good....quality leader as well....

How was he playing when he tipped it? Forget the result.
- mickel25

Typical JvR. He made a few play last night but in the first period he made about 4 bad plays with the puck leading to turnovers. He was however more involved offensively than he has been.

Stone will require the selling of a key asset not named Simmonds or Raffl. No thanks
- StepfordSam

I'd rather offer him 10m per in the offseason than give up 3 1st rounders+

The good thing is if we deal now we can send Simmonds to Ottawa....who may have future plans for Simmonds as a leader of a young team or they can easily flip him for picks. It just better NOT include our 1st this year.

To Ott: Simmonds, Farabee, 2020 1st, Elliot

To Phi: Stone, Anderson

OR we flip Simmonds now for a 1st and use it in a Stone package ourselves. Fine with that. They are not touching our 2019 1st
- Just5

I love Stone and would like to acquire him but that is basically giving up Simmonds, Farabee and a 1st round pick for Stone. Too rich for my blood.

I'd rather offer him 10m per in the offseason than give up 3 1st rounders+
- Glak18

what if It's Jake Vorecek going the other way as a major piece?? Jake will make 9.2 mil next year....then he averages only 6.9 his last 4 years of the deal. Ottawa needs to get to the cap floor and jakes contract was a tad front end loaded (8.25 on cap hit). Ottawa cant sign both Stone and Duschene...the owner does not have enough upfront signing bonus $ that these two guys are going to want...not even close.
It solves a problem for both teams. Ottawa doesn't have to pay up front...they get a solid return of Vorecek plus. Flyers get a stud player and change the core while not cost very much $ unless the deal to Ottawa includes cash.

Last night a clear replay showed that JvR definitely deflected the puck. It was puck luck that it went in but he definitely got a piece of it.
- MJL

puck luck for sure but he was where he needs to be, faced the direction he should, looking for that tip chance.

Im seriously going to lose my mind if Ek is right that the Flyers are offering players, prospects and picks for Stone (okay with him) and Anderson ..no thanks on that.

Vorecek
Elliot
Weise
2019 first rnd pick...top 10 protected. or 2020 1rst rnd pick
2nd rnd 2020
for
Stone (signed to a new 8 year 64 million dollar deal)
Andersson

anyways just pooptzing

Edit: weise added because I don't like him.

Im seriously going to lose my mind if Ek is right that the Flyers are offering players, prospects and picks for Stone (okay with him) and Anderson ..no thanks on that.
- opeth_pa

depends on the players and picks. Andersson would be a nice mentor for Hart...why the hate? he's still pretty good.

I think if EKs deal has any truth it 100% has to include Voracek. Simmonds has a NMC; would he really waive it for OTT? Anyways if that’s the case, then we can move Simmonds to another team in a separate trade.

If, and I know it’s a big if, what Ek said is true then this organization really is a laughing stock.
- StepfordSam

the Ek knows all!

puck luck for sure but he was where he needs to be, faced the direction he should, looking for that tip chance.
- wcorvette

We know JvR can play around the net.