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jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 9:51 AM ET
Its never going to happen but could you imagine next year:

JVR-Giroux-Tarasenko
Panarin-Couturier-Konecny
Farabee-Patrick-Frost
Lindblom-Laughton-ABK

Provorov-Sanheim
Gudas-Ghost
Morin/Hagg-Myers

Hart
????

- youarewrong


That would be awesome. They COULD definitely make a deal for Tarasenko and Panarin, but they'd be have to give up a lot of assets and cap space. Only thing that is almost 100% not gonna happen is Farabee. But the rest is a definite possibility.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 11 @ 9:53 AM ET
If Fletcher can get something like an unprotected 1st, a B+ prospect, and a second rounder, I'd be pretty okay with that.
- jmatchett383


I would be giddy if we get a first from anyone. Bill has mentioned multiple times it's a buyer's market and we might only get a 2nd which conditionally becomes a 1st if they make it so far in playoffs or another condition on re signing.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 9:55 AM ET
That would be awesome. They COULD definitely make a deal for Tarasenko and Panarin, but they'd be have to give up a lot of assets and cap space. Only thing that is almost 100% not gonna happen is Farabee. But the rest is a definite possibility.
- jmatchett383


Has Farabee committed to next year in college? He looked amazing in WJC. Even if not, bump Lindblom onto Patrick's line, and resign Raffl for 4th line.

instant cup contender...lol maybe.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 11 @ 9:58 AM ET
So JVR didn't actually play on the 4th line and actually had the 2nd most 5on5 ice time out of Flyer forwards.

Shocking.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jan 11 @ 9:59 AM ET
Or what if your able to sign Duchene and Panarin in the Summer?

JVR-Duchene-Giroux
Panarin-Couturier-Konecny
Lindblom-Patrick-Frost
Raffl-Laughton-ABK

Provorov-Sanheim
Gudas-Ghost
Morin/Hagg-Myers

Hart
Howard

And maybe Hughes/Kakko
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 11 @ 9:59 AM ET
So JVR didn't actually play on the 4th line and actually had the 2nd most 5on5 ice time out of Flyer forwards.

Shocking.

- Feanor


And was one our top forwards last night..
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 11 @ 10:00 AM ET
And was one our top forwards last night..
- Tfaehner


Not bad for a 4th liner who regretted signing here.
MBFlyerfan
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Lose for Hughes, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jan 11 @ 10:00 AM ET
And was one our top forwards last night..
- Tfaehner



Imagine that, you play well and get rewarded with ice time, regardless of your line label.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 11 @ 10:02 AM ET
Folin got crushed like a paper cup last night, and Gordon was forced into limiting his 5on5 ice time below 10 minutes. Fletcher deserves a lot of credit for having faith in Hart at age 20, but the lack of Phil Myers (who turns 22 in 2 weeks) on this roster just gets more bizarre with each passing day.
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jan 11 @ 10:05 AM ET
Folin got crushed like a paper cup last night, and Gordon was forced into limiting his 5on5 ice time below 10 minutes. Fletcher deserves a lot of credit for having faith in Hart at age 20, but the lack of Phil Myers (who turns 22 in 2 weeks) on this roster just gets more bizarre with each passing day.
- Feanor


Amac has been skating with the team and began practicing and is now day 2 day. Really no reason for Myers to come up for 1 or 2 games.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:06 AM ET
Media keeps stating Leafs are interested in Simmonds. Make Simmonds for Kapanen happenen
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Jan 11 @ 10:08 AM ET
Media keeps stating Leafs are interested in Simmonds. Make Simmonds for Kapanen happenen
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

Dubas please make this mistake. We could use that kids speed.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where Lexington cross 47th Street
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 11 @ 10:09 AM ET
So JVR didn't actually play on the 4th line and actually had the 2nd most 5on5 ice time out of Flyer forwards.

Shocking.

- Feanor


jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:11 AM ET
Media keeps stating Leafs are interested in Simmonds. Make Simmonds for Kapanen happenen
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


If they could do that, even if they had to include a second, I'd be cool with it. I don't think it will happen, since TML probably doesn't want to fill one hole by creating another, but sure.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jan 11 @ 10:15 AM ET
I know this horse has been beaten to a pulp. But I have a question for Bill or whom ever. Lebrun wrote an article in the Athletic today about Simmonds and Ferland as power forward rentals...The asking price for Ferland was a 1rst and a prospect and he expected Simmonds if made available to fetch more then that...He listed 4-5 teams that would have interest.... Perhaps we have under estimated his value?
- landros 2


I still expect the price to be a conditional 1st and a conditional 2nd (the condition on the first-rounder being how far team goes in playoffs, the condition on the 2nd rounder being whether he re-signs with that team). That is, unless there is a bidding war among teams he'd be willing to go to under his partial no-trade. Then the price goes up.

One thing that works in Flyers favor here, though, is that his cap hit on his current deal is very team-friendly.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 11 @ 10:18 AM ET
I still expect the price to be a conditional 1st and a conditional 2nd (the condition on the first-rounder being how far team goes in playoffs, the condition on the 2nd rounder being whether he re-signs with that team). That is, unless there is a bidding war among teams he'd be willing to go to under his partial no-trade. Then the price goes up.

One thing that works in Flyers favor here, though, is that his cap hit on his current deal is very team-friendly.

- bmeltzer


And they can retain 50% if a team is really up against the cap.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jan 11 @ 10:21 AM ET

- Scoob


JVR is averaging 16:08 per game since Gordon took over, and has 9 points in 13 games, same as Giroux. He also has the best +/- out of all Flyer forwards in that period.
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 08.06.2015

Jan 11 @ 10:25 AM ET
Media keeps stating Leafs are interested in Simmonds. Make Simmonds for Kapanen happenen
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


It would be nice but Dreger or someone from TSN said Dubas does not want to part with Kapanen. We'll see. Simmer would benefit greatly from playing with the Leafs. I don't know their line combos or their plans for Simmer, but just imagine him on the wing of Travarese or Matthews. Just go to the front of the net, Wayne!!
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Where Lexington cross 47th Street
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jan 11 @ 10:26 AM ET
JVR is averaging 16:08 per game since Gordon took over, and has 9 points in 13 games, same as Giroux. He also has the best +/- out of all Flyer forwards in that period.
- Feanor


He's still one-dimensional and not really doing a good job in that one dimension. He's got a whopping two goals and one assist in his last five games.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:31 AM ET
He's still one-dimensional and not really doing a good job in that one dimension. He's got a whopping two goals and one assist in his last five games.
- Scoob


Yes, but he has one goal and one assist in his last one game.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:33 AM ET
It would be nice but Dreger or someone from TSN said Dubas does not want to part with Kapanen. We'll see. Simmer would benefit greatly from playing with the Leafs. I don't know their line combos or their plans for Simmer, but just imagine him on the wing of Travarese or Matthews. Just go to the front of the net, Wayne!!
- cdearth23


They are going to have to. There is no way I see them keeping him after Marner and Matthews are signed. 70% of their cap is already taken up for next season with just 11 players signed. Matthews, Marner and Kapanen are RFAs as well as a bunch of others. Gardiner is a UFA as well
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jan 11 @ 10:35 AM ET
Carter hart .920
- Just5



take out that Carolina game and you are looking at .935 save percentage and 2.16 gaa
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:35 AM ET
They are going to have to. There is no way I see them keeping him after Marner and Matthews are signed. 70% of their cap is already taken up for next season with just 11 players signed. Matthews, Marner and Kapanen are RFAs as well as a bunch of others. Gardiner is a UFA as well
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Honestly, I think they'd look to trade Nylander for defensive help before they move Kapanen.
wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:39 AM ET
Honestly, I think they'd look to trade Nylander for defensive help before they move Kapanen.
- jmatchett383



going to suck for one of them, from a contender to a team like the Flyers.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mantua, NJ
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jan 11 @ 10:40 AM ET
going to suck for one of them, from a contender to a team like the Flyers.
- wcorvette


They can cry all the way to the bank.
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