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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 5:58 PM ET
You think this is a small piece in a larger deal? I mean the whole reason we had Weal was because we lacked Cs. Could we be getting one?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Maybe, never know. What are they doing with goaltending? If they're going to keep 3 then they needed to create a roster spot.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:01 PM ET
You think this is a small piece in a larger deal? I mean the whole reason we had Weal was because we lacked Cs. Could we be getting one?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Maybe, but I am more concerned about getting rid of what the Flyers don't need or want first then fill in the holes.
easY
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.20.2018

Jan 11 @ 6:01 PM ET
You think this is a small piece in a larger deal? I mean the whole reason we had Weal was because we lacked Cs. Could we be getting one?
- xShoot4WarAmpsx

I don't think that's why they had him. I think they were counting on Vorobiev and Lehtera for the bottom 6 and neither was a better option than Weal.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 11 @ 6:03 PM ET
Maybe, never know. What are they doing with goaltending? If they're going to keep 3 then they needed to create a roster spot.
- MJL


I wouldnt keep 3. Waive Neuvirth the second he is healthy. I say leave the goaltending as it is. Let Hart take over. Elliott should be back after the Allstar break, he can backup Hart and take over if he fumbles. Kid seems ahead of schedule. Might as well roll with it.
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 11 @ 6:04 PM ET
Maybe, never know. What are they doing with goaltending? If they're going to keep 3 then they needed to create a roster spot.
- MJL


Could Morin be ready sooner and maybe need a spot? Asking because not sure.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:06 PM ET
Could Morin be ready sooner and maybe need a spot? Asking because not sure.
- J35Bacher


No reports of that. Don't think so.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:07 PM ET
I wouldnt keep 3. Waive Neuvirth the second he is healthy. I say leave the goaltending as it is. Let Hart take over. Elliott should be back after the Allstar break, he can backup Hart and take over if he fumbles. Kid seems ahead of schedule. Might as well roll with it.
- xShoot4WarAmpsx


Right now that leaves McKenna as the backup.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 11 @ 6:07 PM ET
Is this the move to force Gordon to play Lehterible to showcase him for another trade
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:08 PM ET
I don't think that's why they had him. I think they were counting on Vorobiev and Lehtera for the bottom 6 and neither was a better option than Weal.
- easY


Vorobyov has played 7 NHL games....7.
arichardson22
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jan 11 @ 6:14 PM ET
Jesus the idiots are out on Facebook pages.

“HEXTALL GOT A 3rd RINALDO AND 2 1sts FOR SCHENN, THIS IS ALL HOMERS FAULT!!!”
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 11 @ 6:21 PM ET
Jesus the idiots are out on Facebook pages.

“HEXTALL GOT A 3rd RINALDO AND 2 1sts FOR SCHENN, THIS IS ALL HOMERS FAULT!!!”

- arichardson22


As I have said before, it is not even important to me that Fletcher wins each trade as viewed alone. I am happy he is now starting the job of retooling. The most important thing is the end result...roster holes and roles filled.

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:22 PM ET
Jesus the idiots are out on Facebook pages.

“HEXTALL GOT A 3rd RINALDO AND 2 1sts FOR SCHENN, THIS IS ALL HOMERS FAULT!!!”

- arichardson22


What? Some fans are just....ugh.

First of all Weal was received from the Kings for Vinny and Luke, 2 salary dumps and depth for LA's playoff run. They basically overpaid with a 3rd round pick and threw Weal in.

Secondly, I wouldn't trade Rinaldo for Weal straight up and I hate Rinaldo.

Thirdly, I wish these clowns would get their act together and stop with the fake news. Schenn was traded for a 1st and the Flyers received another 1st for taking on Lehtera as a salary dump to fit Schenn in. Ain't no one paying two 1st rounders for a Brayden.
Djapana
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Sunset Dreaming, FL
Joined: 09.16.2017

Jan 11 @ 6:26 PM ET
Could Morin be ready sooner and maybe need a spot? Asking because not sure.
- J35Bacher


The magical myth of Morin continues. For all you believers, “Yes someday he will come”.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:31 PM ET
The magical myth of Morin continues. For all you believers, “Yes someday he will come”.
- Djapana


I know the Morin, the guy with a whopping 3 NHL games and 92 total games over the last 3 years and people are chopping at the bits to toss him into the NHL. Yet Vorobyov plays 7, gets sent down once and he is now a scared less than Weal.

These prospects don't have a chance here
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 11 @ 6:39 PM ET
Gotta love a franchise that fires Hextall only to hire a guy who's first trade is Hextall like.

What a waste of paper this deal is. A 6th rounder and a beer league hoser. Plan the parade.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:41 PM ET
Gotta love a franchise that fires Hextall only to hire a guy who's first trade is Hextall like.

What a waste of paper this deal is. A 6th rounder and a beer league hoser. Plan the parade.

- Pelle31Forever


A real GM would have had this team stacked by now.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 11 @ 6:44 PM ET
I know the Morin, the guy with a whopping 3 NHL games and 92 total games over the last 3 years and people are chopping at the bits to toss him into the NHL. Yet Vorobyov plays 7, gets sent down once and he is now a scared less than Weal.

These prospects don't have a chance here

- Glak18


Don’t get me started...sigh

I like Morin

I like Vorobyev
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 11 @ 6:45 PM ET
A real GM would have had this team stacked by now.
- MJL


I understand Rome wasn't built in a day, but why even bother with moves like this?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:47 PM ET
I understand Rome wasn't built in a day, but why even bother with moves like this?
- Pelle31Forever


Creates a number of things. Clears a roster spot and a contract slot. If they feel they're not going to play him, move him to somewhere he can play and not hold the player back.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 11 @ 6:49 PM ET
I understand Rome wasn't built in a day, but why even bother with moves like this?
- Pelle31Forever


Limited roster space
Value of any draft pick
Build a team where everyone has a role

Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Jan 11 @ 6:50 PM ET
Creates a number of things. Clears a roster spot and a contract slot. If they feel they're not going to play him, move him to somewhere he can play and not hold the player back.
- MJL


Out of curiosity, what was Weal's contract status with the team prior to the trade.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Jan 11 @ 6:50 PM ET
Creates a number of things. Clears a roster spot and a contract slot. If they feel they're not going to play him, move him to somewhere he can play and not hold the player back.
- MJL



Giving a player a new opportunity

MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jan 11 @ 6:52 PM ET
Out of curiosity, what was Weal's contract status with the team prior to the trade.
- Pelle31Forever



Pending UFA.
xShoot4WarAmpsx
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Hamilton, ON
Joined: 06.25.2010

Jan 11 @ 7:01 PM ET
What? Some fans are just....ugh.

First of all Weal was received from the Kings for Vinny and Luke, 2 salary dumps and depth for LA's playoff run. They basically overpaid with a 3rd round pick and threw Weal in.

Secondly, I wouldn't trade Rinaldo for Weal straight up and I hate Rinaldo.

Thirdly, I wish these clowns would get their act together and stop with the fake news. Schenn was traded for a 1st and the Flyers received another 1st for taking on Lehtera as a salary dump to fit Schenn in. Ain't no one paying two 1st rounders for a Brayden.

- Glak18


Its either that or people dont include the picks at all and view it as Lehtera for Schenn. SMH
J35Bacher
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 04.03.2014

Jan 11 @ 7:12 PM ET
A real GM would have had this team stacked by now.
- MJL



I also think what changed a little was the thought was the GM and Coaching change would get them moving forward. Start getting some wins but really this team just couldn't do anything right. So even though you want moves your just not there.

I feel the Flyers could be buyers and sellers. Buying would be a move that isn't just for this year but a move that is to really help next year when this team needs to really push forward.
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