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Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 8 @ 3:26 PM ET
Michael Pachla: Jack Eichel remains out for his third straight game as BUF hosts NJD
BeadyEyedDouche
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Rustmine Ramsum most exciting Sabres klugdragger since Taro Tsujimoto
Joined: 07.01.2016

Jan 8 @ 3:32 PM ET
New blog
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 8 @ 3:35 PM ET
Hall is out for the Devils, which helps. Mittelstadt playing with Smith is nice
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 8 @ 3:35 PM ET
New blog
- BeadyEyedDouche

wheeeeee!!!!
Michael Pachla
Buffalo Sabres
Location: solid!!!
Joined: 09.05.2007

Jan 8 @ 3:35 PM ET
Hall is out for the Devils, which helps. Mittelstadt playing with Smith is nice
- jcragcrumple

gonna be interesting to see how it shakes out with skunk in
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 3:38 PM ET
gonna be interesting to see how it shakes out with skunk in
- Michael Pachla


Is this real? If so, don't we have too many forwards?
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 3:44 PM ET
That can still be done while getting whatever we can for the deadweight in the bottom 9. I think Guhle+ Nylander could bring in that said player. I think anyone on Rochester right now could be had in the right trade. We have a ton of picks in the next few years plus guys already drafted that will be vying for spots in Rochester.
- Pegullaville


I think we're saying the same thing. Whether it comes through offloading our "deadweight" or a combination of our prospects and/or picks, I think we should use whatever assets it takes to find guys who can contribute in Buffalo in the next 3 years.

I don't feel entirely comfortable that even high-end picks will do that. Nylander is a great example. For that matter, so is Mittlestat. We don't know whether either of those guys (both high first rounders) are going to actually pan out.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 8 @ 3:55 PM ET
Is this real? If so, don't we have too many forwards?
- Der Kaiser


Game time decision, will probably take the skate and Elie will sit if he plays.
Pegullaville
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Toronto
Joined: 03.16.2011

Jan 8 @ 3:56 PM ET
I think we're saying the same thing. Whether it comes through offloading our "deadweight" or a combination of our prospects and/or picks, I think we should use whatever assets it takes to find guys who can contribute in Buffalo in the next 3 years.

I don't feel entirely comfortable that even high-end picks will do that. Nylander is a great example. For that matter, so is Mittlestat. We don't know whether either of those guys (both high first rounders) are going to actually pan out.

- Der Kaiser


Good Post ! Offloading some of the deadweight will allow us to dip into free agency at the very least and that will help the problem. Tampa has had success however with always having prospects in the pipeline, whereas Toronto has absolutely nothing coming through the prospect ranks. I think at the very least the draft picks will keep the cupboards stocked.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 8 @ 3:58 PM ET
I think we're saying the same thing. Whether it comes through offloading our "deadweight" or a combination of our prospects and/or picks, I think we should use whatever assets it takes to find guys who can contribute in Buffalo in the next 3 years.

I don't feel entirely comfortable that even high-end picks will do that. Nylander is a great example. For that matter, so is Mittlestat. We don't know whether either of those guys (both high first rounders) are going to actually pan out.

- Der Kaiser


Interesting point.

It's a catch 22:

1) You trade draft picks for assets. Cap ramifications will follow and eventually, once you're good, your draft picks have less value and you run out of them as well.
2) You draft, you get busts.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Looking at the perennial playoff teams, they seem to do a bit of both. Teams like Tampa, SJ and Pitt have all been repeat contenders. All have made trades for picks, but all have core pieces that came from the draft.

What the right balance is, that I do not know.
Der Kaiser
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I Know Nothink ... NOTHINK!
Joined: 07.27.2007

Jan 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
Interesting point.

It's a catch 22:

1) You trade draft picks for assets. Cap ramifications will follow and eventually, once you're good, your draft picks have less value and you run out of them as well.
2) You draft, you get busts.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Looking at the perennial playoff teams, they seem to do a bit of both. Teams like Tampa, SJ and Pitt have all been repeat contenders. All have made trades for picks, but all have core pieces that came from the draft.

What the right balance is, that I do not know.

- RhinoFan


The key is to trade the busts before other GMs find out they're busts. And keep the good ones. It's pretty simple, really.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 8 @ 4:06 PM ET
Channeling my inner Gary Clark.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 8 @ 4:07 PM ET
Easier said than done it seems.
Sabre_Tooth
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We're all Duane, NE
Joined: 06.17.2015

Jan 8 @ 4:08 PM ET
The key is to trade the busts before other GMs find out they're busts. And keep the good ones. It's pretty simple, really.
- Der Kaiser



It's a game of chess
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 8 @ 4:12 PM ET
The key is to trade the busts before other GMs find out they're busts. And keep the good ones. It's pretty simple, really.
- Der Kaiser


The other key is to get your GM buddies super drunk at a strip club near the airport and find out what they really think about 2016 #18 OA pick Jurgen Glimsman
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Jan 8 @ 4:16 PM ET
The key is to trade the busts before other GMs find out they're busts. And keep the good ones. It's pretty simple, really.
- Der Kaiser


Simple on the chalk board, but we've been horrible at it for years.

Leino, Ehrhoff, Okposo ---not good at FA
Grigo, Girgs, Nylander ---not good at drafting
Kane, RoR, Hodgson ---not good at trading

Whatever the formula is, we need market improvement to 2/3 of those at least.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 8 @ 4:23 PM ET
Simple on the chalk board, but we've been horrible at it for years.

Leino, Ehrhoff, Okposo ---not good at FA
Grigo, Girgs, Nylander ---not good at drafting
Kane, RoR, Hodgson ---not good at trading

Whatever the formula is, we need market improvement to 2/3 of those at least.

- RhinoFan


For all the poop he got last year from the fans and from Housley (some of it deserved, no doubt)- Benoit Pouliot was a solid FA add at $1m last year. 13 goals, and he never sniffed the top 6. There was nothing really done in that vein this year.

Edit: Pilut, so well done there
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 8 @ 4:26 PM ET
6-2 Jersey
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jan 8 @ 4:27 PM ET
53 Jeff Skinner - 17 Vladimir Sobotka - 72 Tage Thompson
49 C.J. Smith - 37 Casey Mittelstadt - 28 Zemgus Girgensons
43 Conor Sheary - 71 Evan Rodrigues - 29 Jason Pominville
81 Remi Elie - 22 Johan Larsson - 21 Kyle Okposo

This is Tank Bad.....
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jan 8 @ 4:28 PM ET
For all the poop he got last year from the fans and from Housley (some of it deserved, no doubt)- Benoit Pouliot was a solid FA add at $1m last year. 13 goals, and he never sniffed the top 6. There was nothing really done in that vein this year.

Edit: Pilut, so well done there

- jcragcrumple


Did you say Benoit Pouliot was a solid FA signing??????????? I'll have some of what he is having please...
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Jan 8 @ 4:31 PM ET
Did you say Benoit Pouliot was a solid FA signing??????????? I'll have some of what he is having please...
- hehateme



I know, but for $1m? How many wingers are we gonna have who score 13 this year?


Reinhart
Skinner

Maybe Pominville, Sheary, Okposo. Cheap depth scoring options are nice
22sabresQ
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Are we good yet ?
Joined: 05.23.2013

Jan 8 @ 4:32 PM ET
53 Jeff Skinner - 17 Vladimir Sobotka - 72 Tage Thompson
49 C.J. Smith - 37 Casey Mittelstadt - 28 Zemgus Girgensons
43 Conor Sheary - 71 Evan Rodrigues - 29 Jason Pominville
81 Remi Elie - 22 Johan Larsson - 21 Kyle Okposo

This is Tank Bad.....

- hehateme


What would Duchene cost ?
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Jan 8 @ 4:33 PM ET
What in the flying (frank) is the point of having Mitts on the 4th line.


I need somebody to point me the rule that says that every team ever cant ever put their young players in a position to succed.

- feetontheair22


It's incredibly dumb. Matthews got 17:31 his rookie year, McDavid got 18:53. Hell, Matthews STILL only gets 18:09 a night now. McDavid is up to 22:45 a night. Eichel started out at 19:07 and is actually playing the second fewest minutes at 19:46 this year.

So a jamoke like Mittelstadt doesn't stand a chance.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jan 8 @ 4:36 PM ET
I know, but for $1m? How many wingers are we gonna have who score 13 this year?


Reinhart
Skinner

Maybe Pominville, Sheary, Okposo. Cheap depth scoring options are nice

- jcragcrumple


oh we really suck at FA signings if he stands out as one of our best.. That dude is 32 without a job this year and has played for 7 teams in 10 years.....the Sky is falling!!!!
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Jan 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
What would Duchene cost ?
- 22sabresQ


Trade for now or sign on July 1?

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