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Mike Augello
Commissioner
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 06.25.2006

Dec 17 @ 5:44 PM ET
Mike Augello: Dubas not concerned about offer sheets to Matthews, Marner
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 17 @ 5:51 PM ET
Hi
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 17 @ 5:52 PM ET
Mitch's dad mentioned today as well, the media acts like Mitch and Auston are the only two RFAs. It's so ridiculously overblown. No offersheet in 5 years.

Bob Mackenzie made a good point about Stone not getting one last offseason. That makes him think none will happen. Stone was the perfect RFA.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 17 @ 5:56 PM ET
BTW, isn't it funny, 2 days ago I get roasted on here for stating Babcock does not play his players enough and it's a massive issue, today, phone texts from Paul Marner reveal how much he hates Mitch's TOI.

For long term success, this team needs to play it's stars like other teams.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 17 @ 5:58 PM ET
Mitch's dad mentioned today as well, the media acts like Mitch and Auston are the only two RFAs. It's so ridiculously overblown. No offersheet in 5 years.

Bob Mackenzie made a good point about Stone not getting one last offseason. That makes him think none will happen. Stone was the perfect RFA.

- RogerRoeper


Nope, most offer sheets don't make sense for a team or the player signing it. A team has to give up a huge future and pay an extremely high salary for 1 player which hurts the team to improve around that player. On the other hand the player has to agree, whether it is for pure money or a better chance to win.

Makes sense for a RFA who is older or one in a bad situation, but for the most part that rarely happens.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 17 @ 6:07 PM ET
BTW, isn't it funny, 2 days ago I get roasted on here for stating Babcock does not play his players enough and it's a massive issue, today, phone texts from Paul Marner reveal how much he hates Mitch's TOI.

For long term success, this team needs to play it's stars like other teams.

- RogerRoeper



Can you provide numbers for other teams elite player TOI
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 17 @ 6:11 PM ET
Can you provide numbers for other teams elite player TOI
- BreathLeafs2015


Dale Weise 12:53
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 17 @ 6:13 PM ET
Can you provide numbers for other teams elite player TOI
- BreathLeafs2015


Jack Eichel gets more than both Matthews and JT. Eichel was getting more last season than Matthews was.


Are you guys not aware of this?


Here's Mitch's dad. He's 100% correct.

https://twitter.com/danie.../1074764784422318081?s=19


Forget about offersheets, this is the Leafs real issue.
Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Dec 17 @ 6:16 PM ET
(frank) off with this offer sheet noise. It ain’t happening. Believe it. DT45
plantheparade
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Hyman MVP
Joined: 07.04.2018

Dec 17 @ 6:17 PM ET
Jack Eichel gets more than both Matthews and JT. Eichel was getting more last season than Matthews was.


Are you guys not aware of this?


Here's Mitch's dad. He's 100% correct.

https://twitter.com/danie.../1074764784422318081?s=19


Forget about offersheets, this is the Leafs real issue.

- RogerRoeper


i already disliked the mother after last game.
now the father as well.
bad family
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Dec 17 @ 6:20 PM ET
i already disliked the mother after last game.
now the father as well.
bad family

- plantheparade


So I guess we're trading Marner and keeping Willy now?

Why did you possibly dislike his mom? Cause she was excited and danced a little one time when he scored or something? She was having fun with the other moms. Apparently Marner gets some of his outgoing personality from her.

His dad is just another hockey dad that wants the best for his son. Coaches have to deal with parents like him even in peewee. No big deal.
Dongull_Trump
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Soon to be prison.
Joined: 03.24.2018

Dec 17 @ 6:20 PM ET
Jack Eichel gets more than both Matthews and JT. Eichel was getting more last season than Matthews was.


Are you guys not aware of this?


Here's Mitch's dad. He's 100% correct.

https://twitter.com/danie.../1074764784422318081?s=19


Forget about offersheets, this is the Leafs real issue.

- RogerRoeper



Meddling parents?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 17 @ 6:22 PM ET
i already disliked the mother after last game.
now the father as well.
bad family

- plantheparade


Does Mitch share the same parents as Lindsay Lohan? It is sad some parents are so delusional. That is awesome your child became famous or became a sports star, but you don't get to piggyback on the fame just because you raised them. Go away and be a good parent.
kingsfan626
Los Angeles Kings
Location: Ontario, CA
Joined: 12.12.2013

Dec 17 @ 6:23 PM ET
TOR should be asking LA how much it'll cost for Martinez or Muzzin during Blake's dumpster fire sale. One or both can be had for some picks and a serviceable player in return. Both have the experience you need in the playoffs and won't cost the team much.
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 17 @ 6:23 PM ET
Mitch Marner, John Tavres and Auston Matthews are getting less TOI than 9 of the top 10 NHL scorers.
Matthews for an inexplicle reason is barely getting above 18 TOI.

BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 17 @ 6:49 PM ET
Dale Weise 12:53
- Glak18

Sure like he’s comparable to marner in talent?!
Go back in your moms basement iow u haven’t grown up yet. How bout YouTube kids tv for yourself
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Dec 17 @ 6:53 PM ET
Jack Eichel gets more than both Matthews and JT. Eichel was getting more last season than Matthews was.


Are you guys not aware of this?


Here's Mitch's dad. He's 100% correct.

https://twitter.com/danie.../1074764784422318081?s=19


Forget about offersheets, this is the Leafs real issue.

- RogerRoeper

That probably has to do with this being the rest of the Sabres forward lineup:

Sheary Mittlestadt Okposo
Thompson Sobotka Pomminville
Rodrigues Larsson Girgensons
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 17 @ 6:54 PM ET
That probably has to do with this being the rest of the Sabres forward lineup:

Sheary Mittlestadt Okposo
Thompson Sobotka Pomminville
Rodrigues Larsson Girgensons

- walshyleafsfan


You mean the Sabres lineup AHEAD of the Leafs in the standings?
Shouldn't our great depth mean we are better than them?
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Imagine something funny
Joined: 01.27.2010

Dec 17 @ 6:55 PM ET
Mitch Marner, John Tavres and Auston Matthews are getting less TOI than 9 of the top 10 NHL scorers.
Matthews for an inexplicle reason is barely getting above 18 TOI.

- RogerRoeper


It's called depth. We don't need to play our stars 25 minutes a night because we have lots of them. It also means they aren't as worn down later in the season when it matters.

It's possible Babs could still play the young guys a bit more and isn't because of some coaching reason he hasn't bothered to explain to us plebs.
Thecakeisalie
Toronto Maple Leafs
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Joined: 01.27.2010

Dec 17 @ 6:57 PM ET
You mean the Sabres lineup AHEAD of the Leafs in the standings?
Shouldn't our great depth mean we are better than them?

- RogerRoeper


Do you honestly expect the Sabres to stay ahead of us by the end of the regular season? I sure don't.

And they play Eichel like crazy because they don't have 3 of him. Same with McDavid in Edmonton, etc.
harps43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.14.2018

Dec 17 @ 6:58 PM ET
Yea those Sabres with a +7 goal differential and had a +12 goal differential on a 10 game win streak, they are not a comparable team no matter how close they are in the standings, it is very unlikely they keep it up.

Go look at TOI for forwards, our forwards are right there with most teams that have depth. Matthews, Marner and Tavares all play similar minutes to Kucherov, Pasternak, Pavelski, Couture, Hall, Monahan, Malkin, Forsberg, Kuznetsnov and a ton of other players.

Barkov, Eichel, McDavid, MacKinnon, Rantanen, Kopitar, and Seguin to name a few have little to no one behind them, those teams have to play those guys every other shift to compete. It will catch up to them. People want to complain about Andersen getting tired but want our forwards double shifting every game....
walshyleafsfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I really don't care about Nylander, I really hope he gets injured and is out - Makita
Joined: 07.14.2011

Dec 17 @ 7:03 PM ET
You mean the Sabres lineup AHEAD of the Leafs in the standings?
Shouldn't our great depth mean we are better than them?

- RogerRoeper

Not really. In the same manner I don't believe the Sabres are better than the Caps or the Sharks or Blue Jackets. I don't believe they are as good as the Preds. I don't think the Habs are better than the Penguins. Nor do I think the Leafs are better than the Caps.
BreathLeafs2015
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Oshawa, ON
Joined: 06.26.2015

Dec 17 @ 7:04 PM ET
Yea those Sabres with a +7 goal differential and had a +12 goal differential on a 10 game win streak, they are not a comparable team no matter how close they are in the standings, it is very unlikely they keep it up.

Go look at TOI for forwards, our forwards are right there with most teams that have depth. Matthews, Marner and Tavares all play similar minutes to Kucherov, Pasternak, Pavelski, Couture, Hall, Monahan, Malkin, Forsberg, Kuznetsnov and a ton of other players.

- harps43


Thanks for the in depth research on this matter. It puts TOI subject matter in perspective. Well done ✅
harps43
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.14.2018

Dec 17 @ 7:06 PM ET
Thanks for the in depth research on this matter. It puts TOI subject matter in perspective. Well done ✅
- BreathLeafs2015


Took 30 seconds to do so, apparently too much work for people that want to spew nonsense
RogerRoeper
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 03.27.2007

Dec 17 @ 7:07 PM ET
Not really. In the same manner I don't believe the Sabres are better than the Caps or the Sharks or Blue Jackets. I don't believe they are as good as the Preds. I don't think the Habs are better than the Penguins. Nor do I think the Leafs are better than the Caps.
- walshyleafsfan


The point is, we need to finish ahead of teams we have much better depth than for any of this to make sense.

Eichels' TOI is the same as last year. Buffalo didn't even give him more.
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