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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 17 @ 12:40 PM ET
$1,020,833 x 8

is the JJ stat that matters most.

- Feds91Stammer


I'd argue it's 1,020,833 x 3. Beyond the next 3 years, it really doesn't matter.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 17 @ 12:43 PM ET
$1,020,833 x 8

is the JJ stat that matters most.

- Feds91Stammer


Just wait for the CBA.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 17 @ 12:46 PM ET
Hopefully his ceiling is higher than bottom pairing! Sprong has top 6 potential and was barely given a chance.
- bikeguy99

Yeah I mean we dumped him, plain and simple. At least we got a competent player back for him cus holding onto him wouldn't have been much better. Sullivan made up his mind on him probably last year.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 17 @ 12:47 PM ET
$1,020,833 x 8

is the JJ stat that matters most.

- Feds91Stammer

There is simply no shot in hell Rutherford is gonna buy him out.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 17 @ 12:48 PM ET
Woah Jesse Marshal just quote tweeted our line rushes and it looks like Johnson is headed to the box. Was on a fourth pairing with Chad.
- Victoro311


It’s been such a small sample size though.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:50 PM ET
I'd argue it's 1,020,833 x 3. Beyond the next 3 years, it really doesn't matter.
- madmike71

Agreed.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:50 PM ET
There is simply no shot in hell Rutherford is gonna buy him out.
- Victoro311

Depends. If he gets scratched a ton and you can't trade him. Hard to justify a 3.25m healthy scratch.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 17 @ 12:52 PM ET
Just wait for the CBA.
- Rinosaur

The current CBA is a 10-year deal, the longest in NHL history, expiring after the 2021–22 season.

Don't know if you can wait that long.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Dec 17 @ 12:53 PM ET
You know...I get it, the Flyers are a rival, or so you guys have thought for the last 30 years.

But this kid has the pedigree to be a star goalie. Even if it's for a rival team, you shouldn't take pleasure in any 20-year-old kid being ruined.

Did it drive me nuts than the Rangers have had a goalie as good as Lundqvis for the last 15 years? Yeah, but I wouldn't go back and hope that his career would be ruined because of it.

- jmatchett383


Hold on,

I was just thinking that bringing him up now in front of that team may not be the best idea right now. Would you agree with that?

Also are you suggesting the two teams are not rivals?
HiSticking
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: confluence
Joined: 05.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 12:58 PM ET
If any other player was a -7.32 rel CF% you would be blasting him. But not Saint Sprong.

And for the last f'ing time: Shot attempts for and against while a player is on the ice is not "possession," it is shot attempt differentials.

- jmatchett383


But you have to have the puck to shoot it (sarcasm). I'm in your camp on this one. The shot attempt diff (aka possession) has to be the most effortlessly lazy "stat/ metric" in sports. It fundamentally lacks any depth of information, just as plus-minus does. What really drives me nuts, is using this poor metric to explain a PLAYER's impact, which is complete BS. It gets improperly used in a singular tense (e.g. batting avg.) when it shouldnt. There are nine other skaters (5-5) and random chaos that probably make an even bigger impact in shot attempts.

By the way, if Sprong keeps getting minutes, he'll eventually catch Reaves in goal output. You talk about double standard of player coverage. What bias?
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
[quote=stevens87]

I'm suggesting it is a bad idea, you seem to take pleasure in possibly ruining him.

And I'd say the "rivalry" has died down recently due to the Flyers being a fringe team...but the rivalry only went one way in the 80s and 90s, we actually looked forward to playing you guys, there was no hatred on the Philly side.
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 17 @ 1:08 PM ET
But you have to have the puck to shoot it (sarcasm). I'm in your camp on this one. The shot attempt diff (aka possession) has to be the most effortlessly lazy "stat/ metric" in sports. It fundamentally lacks any depth of information, just as plus-minus does. What really drives me nuts, is using this poor metric to explain a PLAYER's impact, which is complete BS. It gets improperly used in a singular tense (e.g. batting avg.) when it shouldnt. There are nine other skaters (5-5) and random chaos that probably make an even bigger impact in shot attempts.

By the way, if Sprong keeps getting minutes, he'll eventually catch Reaves in goal output. You talk about double standard of player coverage. What bias?

- HiSticking

Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 17 @ 1:09 PM ET
[quote=jmatchett383]
You know what just because it offends you I hope it ruins him.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
But you have to have the puck to shoot it (sarcasm). I'm in your camp on this one. The shot attempt diff (aka possession) has to be the most effortlessly lazy "stat/ metric" in sports. It fundamentally lacks any depth of information, just as plus-minus does. What really drives me nuts, is using this poor metric to explain a PLAYER's impact, which is complete BS. It gets improperly used in a singular tense (e.g. batting avg.) when it shouldnt. There are nine other skaters (5-5) and random chaos that probably make an even bigger impact in shot attempts.

By the way, if Sprong keeps getting minutes, he'll eventually catch Reaves in goal output. You talk about double standard of player coverage. What bias?

- HiSticking


Yes, you do have to have the puck to shoot it. But if you have the puck in the o-zone for 40 second and cycle it without getting a shot, does that mean you had no possession over those 40 seconds? Similarily, if you are set up for 5 seconds, get a point shot off and 2 rebounds, that doesn't mean you possessed the puck for any prolonged matter of time.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 1:11 PM ET
[quote=Feds91Stammer]

And a happy holidays to you and your family too.
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 17 @ 1:14 PM ET
You have to get up EARLY to afford to live in this crazy state. They were trying to figure out how to tax text messages for Christ's sake! It's getting so bad the poopty weather everyone else goes through doesn't seem so bad now.
- duxcup07



hahaha
MattStrat
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: ...serial abuser...and misuser...of the ellipsis , NF
Joined: 12.12.2014

Dec 17 @ 1:14 PM ET
Letang participating in today's skate. Regular jersey. Will probably play tonight.
- madmike71



Whaaaaat?
PittsPens
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Westernport, MD
Joined: 01.06.2012

Dec 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
Well Hakstol just got the axe. Que the Quenville as Phillys head coach news soon.
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Dec 17 @ 1:18 PM ET
[quote=Feds91Stammer]


I'm guessing all the chants of CROSBY SUCKS is the Flyers fans way of hoping he'd have success.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
[quote=stevens87]

So you don't see the difference between not liking a player who lights you up every game and hoping that a promising young player's career ends abruptly due to a team mismanaging him?
Feds91Stammer
Detroit Red Wings
Location: "China was as proactive as possible" - Rinosaur, SC
Joined: 02.01.2012

Dec 17 @ 1:20 PM ET
[quote=stevens87]
Like seriously he gets offended because he misinterpreted your post. What a jabroni.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 1:22 PM ET
[quote=Feds91Stammer]

I guess the smiley face was actually a frown???

Also,not offended, just kind of a poopty person.
j.boyd919
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Tampa, FL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Dec 17 @ 1:23 PM ET
But you have to have the puck to shoot it (sarcasm). I'm in your camp on this one. The shot attempt diff (aka possession) has to be the most effortlessly lazy "stat/ metric" in sports. It fundamentally lacks any depth of information, just as plus-minus does. What really drives me nuts, is using this poor metric to explain a PLAYER's impact, which is complete BS. It gets improperly used in a singular tense (e.g. batting avg.) when it shouldnt. There are nine other skaters (5-5) and random chaos that probably make an even bigger impact in shot attempts.

By the way, if Sprong keeps getting minutes, he'll eventually catch Reaves in goal output. You talk about double standard of player coverage. What bias?

- HiSticking


Well this might be the worst take I’ve seen in a while.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Dec 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
Well this might be the worst take I’ve seen in a while.
- j.boyd919


So you would agree that 1 person has more of an impact on the play than the other 9 skaters? Or are you saying that the sample size has to be large enough to develop a trend to make the other 9 skaters' identities of no consequence?
stevens87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: LET'S GO BRANDON, PA
Joined: 10.05.2005

Dec 17 @ 1:25 PM ET
[quote=jmatchett383]

Hmmm...I didn't know is was my job or the job of any Pens fan to care about the success of Carter Hart. But hey, here's to him going into the Hall of Fame.
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