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kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Dec 18 @ 11:42 AM ET
Really not sure the point of trading Seabrook for Lucic. Can someone enlighten me as to how this helps the team short and/or long term? Really, neither provide any real usefulness anymore, both are slow, both have albatross contracts.
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:42 AM ET
If anything, I would be looking at the shorter term for Lucic as the benefit. Spit ballin
- z1990z


Yeah it would be nice to get out from under that contract faster for sure. I think there will be other solutions, up to and including the next CBA.
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:44 AM ET
He could be another Dylan Strome type in terms of the team not wanting to wait any longer, but not sure if he is gonna pan out. Tough to place an exact value on the parts of a trade in this case IMO.
- breadbag


Yeah. Puljujarvi has looked like a stud at times, and completely lost at other times. He is a very big kid though and they tend to take longer to get up to speed, so if I was Chiarelli I'd be waiting at least another year or two to see if he finds his game consistently.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:45 AM ET
Very interesting indeed. I'd love to see a guy like Puljujarvi, who the writer mentioned Oilers fans are impatient with. Maybe Chiarelli gives him up for Keith?
- Hawks_49

Look at the talent Charelli has basically given away, Hall, Seguin, and Hamilton. The one good trade he made, Kessel for Toronto's two lottery unprotected firsts, he ruined when he gave Seguin and Hamilton away. Maybe Charelli is tiring of McDavid?
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Dec 18 @ 11:45 AM ET
Really not sure the point of trading Seabrook for Lucic. Can someone enlighten me as to how this helps the team short and/or long term? Really, neither provide any real usefulness anymore, both are slow, both have albatross contracts.
- kwolf68


Term as far as what Lucic has left on his deal. Toughness which this team has 0 of. And we dont have Seabrook's deal to comment about anymore.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Dec 18 @ 11:46 AM ET
Term as far as what Lucic has left on his deal. Toughness which this team has 0 of. And we dont have Seabrook's deal to comment about anymore.
- nickmo2699


SOLD!

Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
Term as far as what Lucic has left on his deal. Toughness which this team has 0 of. And we dont have Seabrook's deal to comment about anymore.
- nickmo2699


Red font here:

This is the hidden gem of the deal. We could all rip apart Lucic because he's done nothing for us and go back to loving Seabrook for all that he did for the Hawks.
Lido_Shuffle
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 02.10.2012

Dec 18 @ 11:47 AM ET
Three Cups DID have a lot to do with it.

So did being in the third largest market in the country - and having the business people around who could develop that market.

So did owning half of the building.

So did the corporate promotions and game-day promotions and merchandising promotions and market development promotions and....

You guys think that all you have to do is throw the puck out on the ice and the fans come flocking in.

You also have to develop the revenue streams that continue during the down times - otherwise it's always boom and bust.

Well, we'll see if McD and his group have been able to do that during the next several down seasons. My guess is that they have.

- StLBravesFan[/quote

LOL. You think revenue streams are going to make up the actual short fall for not winning? They won't even come close.
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:48 AM ET
Look at the talent Charelli has basically given away, Hall, Seguin, and Hamilton. The one good trade he made Kessel for Toronto's two lottery unprotected firsts Seguin and Hamilton away. Maybe Charelli is tiring of McDavid?
- paulr


Imagine how quickly Chiarelli would be lynched...... Yeah... you just imagined it real fast haha.
tvetter
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burkesville, KY
Joined: 12.16.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
I would do that don't think Edmonton would and Edmonton probably not giving up their 1st
- Scott1977

You forget who their GM is.
Taylorst1
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 07.09.2018

Dec 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
Yes, we have free speech, and with this commit you have proved what is wrong with your manner of thought. Until you donate your time for a cause like I do (which I point out is a volunteer position) I would ask you kindly to insult people without referring to them with the kids and adults I work with.

However, if you really want to have it out, I would be glad to. I guarantee with your adolescent frame of thought, it will not look good for you........dweeb

- spudrock512



Lmao cry me a river you little girl. Give it your best shot since you already need a lesson on how to spell comment , not commit. You whiney sack of useless poop
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 18 @ 11:51 AM ET
You forget who their GM is.
- tvetter


And ours? Haha
Dieselhead
Location: CA
Joined: 11.01.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
No politics here man!! Stick to hockey, which you are very well versed. Not that you're not in politics, but this is a hockey chat.
- nickmo2699


Very well versed? Have you seen his trade proposals?

Oh, and California isn't bankrupt. Jerry Brown has done a pretty good job of righting the ship after the Terminator nearly put the state into bankruptcy.
tompo1015
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 03.17.2013

Dec 18 @ 11:52 AM ET
I despise them and their I am superior to you thinking and no what's best policies. Look at California, Illinois and new york all run by democrats whom have bankrupted those states, driven poverty and crime up and are more worried about protecting ILLEGAL ALIENS over American citizens and Vets.
- Taylorst1



Someone listens to too much talk radio....


EbonyRaptor
Joined: 03.28.2013

Dec 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
If you put it that way I hate Liberals too.
- paulr


Paul with the diffuse move ... well played sir.
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Dec 18 @ 11:53 AM ET
SOLD!


- kwolf68




Honestly, Lucic in a bottom 6 role to deter some of the nightly BS, wouldnt be a bad thing. Yes, he is not a fast skater in the slightest, but he brings an edge that no one in our organization has.
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
Please cut out the personal insults and politics. PM each other to have a flame war. I don't speak for everyone else but I certainly do not come here to read that.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
Joki going to the WJC.

https://www.tsn.ca/blackh...finland-for-wjc-1.1228276
SoftServe
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 01.19.2016

Dec 18 @ 11:55 AM ET
Joki officially loaned to Finland. Anisimov and Forsling back.
Hawks_49
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 04.28.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:56 AM ET
Joki officially loaned to Finland. Anisimov and Forsling back.
- SoftServe


Good move. Give the kid an opportunity to be a big time contributor for his country.

Forsling getting back is great. He has looked very good so far.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Dec 18 @ 11:57 AM ET


Honestly, Lucic in a bottom 6 role to deter some of the nightly BS, wouldnt be a bad thing. Yes, he is not a fast skater in the slightest, but he brings an edge that no one in our organization has.

- nickmo2699


You realize both Lucic and Chara were on the Bruin's roster the night Mike Richards ended Marc Savard's career? No player can deter anything, maybe they can beat someone up after the fact but as far as I remember Lucic never confronted Richards for it.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 18 @ 11:57 AM ET
Joki going to the WJC.

https://www.tsn.ca/blackh...finland-for-wjc-1.1228276

- breadbag


Thanks for the update, BB, same SoftServe.
Any updates on the line-up with those 2 coming back in?
nickmo2699
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 01.06.2012

Dec 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
You realize both Lucic and Chara were on the Bruin's roster the night Mike Richards ended Marc Savard's career? No player can deter anything, maybe they can beat someone up after the fact but as far as I remember Lucic never confronted Richards for it.
- paulr


Matt Cooke? Or Mike Richards? I thought it was the headshot from Cooke that ended him.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
Thanks for the update, BB, same SoftServe.
Any updates on the line-up with those 2 coming back in?

- I Am The Breadman


Up Front.

Saad-Toews-Kahun
Strome-Anisimov-Kane
DeBrincat-Kampf-Sikura
Hayden-Kruger-Perlini

Ward in Goal.
breadbag
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 11.30.2015

Dec 18 @ 11:59 AM ET
Up Front.

Saad-Toews-Kahun
Strome-Anisimov-Kane
DeBrincat-Kampf-Sikura
Hayden-Kruger-Perlini

Ward in Goal.

- breadbag



Keith-Gustafsson
Forsling-Seabrook
Dahlstrom-Murphy
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