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Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 16 @ 9:21 AM ET
Jason Millen: Blues at Flames preview and Avalanche recap, the oddities continue Blues at Flames preview and Avalanche recap, the oddities continue
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 16 @ 9:27 AM ET
Why are the Blues so bad? On paper they look competitive. Bad mix of players?
Jason Millen
St Louis Blues
Location: Saint Louis, MO
Joined: 01.28.2016

Dec 16 @ 11:35 AM ET
Why are the Blues so bad? On paper they looks competitive. Bad mix of players?
- LeftCoaster


They found ways to lose points and games early in the season, losing multi goal leads in the 3rd period, giving up late goals to lose before overtime, etc. They could very easily, maybe should have 7 more points which would put them effectively in the playoffs because of their games in hand.

This was from late october


LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Dec 16 @ 12:30 PM ET
They found ways to lose points and games early in the season, losing multi goal leads in the 3rd period, giving up late goals to lose before overtime, etc. They could very easily, maybe should have 7 more points which would put them effectively in the playoffs because of their games in hand.

This was from late october


- Jason Millen

Blues are becoming like the Flyers with their constant goaltending issues.
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Dec 16 @ 2:39 PM ET
Is it getting hot in here?!... I feel like the heats gone way up in the last hour or so. The Flames are so hot. Can someone open a window please?!


Bad joking aside, yeah you guys still look really good on paper. I know your missing Pete and a few other more minor players, butt this game should be good!

It’s sounding more and more like Smitty’s starting so I’m very concerned on our end there. He’s so hot and cold he’s almost an older version of Jake Allen. Like a box of chocolates, you never know what your going to get..

I expect a low scoring, defensive type game from both teams. Butt it is a good day for hockey!!

Go Flames Go!!!
Flamin_Irishmin
Calgary Flames
Location: Victoria B.C., BC
Joined: 09.15.2015

Dec 16 @ 3:20 PM ET
Hometown boy scores, you can’t get mad..
Hunkulese
Calgary Flames
Location: QC
Joined: 09.30.2006

Dec 16 @ 3:43 PM ET
Why are the Blues so bad? On paper they look competitive. Bad mix of players?
- LeftCoaster


Pretty clear at this point that Ryan O'Reilly automatically makes your team bad.
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Dec 16 @ 4:04 PM ET
Pretty clear at this point that Ryan O'Reilly automatically makes your team bad.
- Hunkulese

It started last season and has continued.
Yeah Boyes
St Louis Blues
Location: Ekland, MO
Joined: 04.20.2009

Dec 16 @ 10:28 PM ET
I do not understand anything about this team.
vancity787
Vancouver Canucks
Location: My Parents Basement, BC
Joined: 07.14.2008

Dec 17 @ 5:04 AM ET
Pretty clear at this point that Ryan O'Reilly automatically makes your team bad.
- Hunkulese

I was thinking the same thing the other day

Hell of a player, and no signs of being a bad locker room guy.

Just purely a bad luck guy.
BluemanGuruu
St Louis Blues
Location: trustinjarmo knows nothing, MO
Joined: 06.28.2007

Dec 17 @ 10:12 AM ET
I guess when the Flames were sucking I should have posted cheap shots on their team blog because nothing screams class like kicking guys when they're down.

Still think a Tarasrnko for either Tkachuck kid's draft pick is looking more and more like a good bet, plus we would have gotten more.

Hell, I would straight up trade him for either one because hockey's a team sport and Tarasenko's an individual. Oh but he creates great passes instead of shooting, which does not make him a team player. But every ten or fifteen games he places defense a couple of games in a row and that shot. And, and, the same tired cut back moves. NHL game changes, talent is great, but adapty talent to the changes makes a player elite, see ROR vs Tarsenko.
DuranDuran
Calgary Flames
Location: Quito
Joined: 09.29.2015

Dec 17 @ 10:22 AM ET
I guess when the Flames were sucking I should have posted cheap shots on their team blog because nothing screams class like kicking guys when they're down.

Still think a Tarasrnko for either Tkachuck kid's draft pick is looking more and more like a good bet, plus we would have gotten more.

Hell, I would straight up trade him for either one because hockey's a team sport and Tarasenko's an individual. Oh but he creates great passes instead of shooting, which does not make him a team player. But every ten or fifteen games he places defense a couple of games in a row and that shot. And, and, the same tired cut back moves. NHL game changes, talent is great, but adapty talent to the changes makes a player elite, see ROR vs Tarsenko.

- BluemanGuruu


We got kicked a lot. Not so much by the Blues fan base. Luckily the trolls have been silent this year.

Anyways, besides goaltending not sure what the Blues problems are or how to fix them. But wish you the best of luck turinging it around.
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 12:18 PM ET
We got kicked a lot. Not so much by the Blues fan base. Luckily the trolls have been silent this year.

Anyways, besides goaltending not sure what the Blues problems are or how to fix them. But wish you the best of luck turinging it around.

- DuranDuran


Dude Goaltending is not the problem this year

Lack of Effort is

Look at the trends for blues game at home on the weekend they were going to get blasted yesterday

Nothing Jake or Jordan or any goalie can do when the other guys don't show up ready to play
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Dec 17 @ 2:06 PM ET
I still disagree with all the comments about trading Tarasenko. A good coaching group can take high ceiling players and push them past the plateaus they often hit. When a team is a contender on paper but fails to meet expectations, that's almost always a coaching/management/leadership issue. Several of our high end players have bottomed out. Young, highly skilled players don't all suddenly regress at the same time without an external issue. These players need to be held accountable by a coach that has the talent to push their progress. If they trade Tarasenko, I think we see how good he is on a team that works together.
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 2:40 PM ET
you guys want Berglund back?

we broke him
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 2:46 PM ET
you guys want Berglund back?

we broke him

- jcragcrumple


Bouwmeester and Steen for Berglund
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 3:50 PM ET
Bouwmeester and Steen for Berglund
- sycsam


I was thinking:

Blues 1st and Berglund for Schwartz

Sabres throw in Elie or something to make the money work.
bluenote31
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis
Joined: 09.25.2006

Dec 17 @ 4:03 PM ET
I was thinking:

Blues 1st and Berglund for Schwartz

Sabres throw in Elie or something to make the money work

- jcragcrumple




lol
BluesDroogie
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 06.12.2014

Dec 17 @ 4:06 PM ET
I was thinking:

Blues 1st and Berglund for Schwartz

Sabres throw in Elie or something to make the money work.

- jcragcrumple

No. Bouwmeester and Steen for Bergy or no deal
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 4:09 PM ET
No. Bouwmeester and Steen for Bergy or no deal
- BluesDroogie


$11m in salary for $3.8?

Doesn't make any sense. Ya'll need that pick back. I'm sure we can work something out

I can offer Berglund, Okposo and St Louis 1st for Steen and Schwartz
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 4:32 PM ET
$11m in salary for $3.8?

Doesn't make any sense. Ya'll need that pick back. I'm sure we can work something out

I can offer Berglund, Okposo and St Louis 1st for Steen and Schwartz

- jcragcrumple


Its really only $2 Million as Bo is a FA at years end
so Bo Steen and a 6th round pick for Bergy and if Bo resigns with Buffalo the blues keep their pick and get BUffalo's 6th
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 4:37 PM ET
Its really only $2 Million as Bo is a FA at years end
so Bo Steen and a 6th round pick for Bergy and if Bo resigns with Buffalo the blues keep their pick and get BUffalo's 6th

- sycsam


Steen has 2 more years at $5.5

Pass. Anyway, I think the Sabres are going to try to void Berglund's contract. Idk if it's going to work, but i don't think they want to do him any favors. He should have just shown up for a year and played well to try to get a trade at the end of the year
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 5:17 PM ET
Steen has 2 more years at $5.5

Pass. Anyway, I think the Sabres are going to try to void Berglund's contract. Idk if it's going to work, but i don't think they want to do him any favors. He should have just shown up for a year and played well to try to get a trade at the end of the year

- jcragcrumple


What is going on with him? Does he no like the role he is being asked to play or what?

I know nothing about what is going on with Buffalo this year
sycsam
St Louis Blues
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 09.26.2008

Dec 17 @ 5:18 PM ET
Steen has 2 more years at $5.5

Pass. Anyway, I think the Sabres are going to try to void Berglund's contract. Idk if it's going to work, but i don't think they want to do him any favors. He should have just shown up for a year and played well to try to get a trade at the end of the year

- jcragcrumple


and Berglund has two more at $3.8 so Buffalo is picking up $2 million in added salary after this year
jcragcrumple
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Reluctant bridge jumper; 6th round OHL draft pick, YT
Joined: 04.04.2016

Dec 17 @ 6:01 PM ET
What is going on with him? Does he no like the role he is being asked to play or what?

I know nothing about what is going on with Buffalo this year

- sycsam


No idea. He started the year as a 2nd line center and did not perform too well. He was switched to wing and said he was more comfortable on the wing anyway. He was reduced to a 12 minute role, but still had time on PP2. Then he was a healthy scratch which apparently set him off. Somehow the Sabres found out he was partying while calling in "sick."
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