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Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Dec 15 @ 9:58 AM ET
Ryan Wilson: Penguins dial it back to Spring 2017 Penguins dial it back to Spring 2017
Dr Blob
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 09.30.2018

Dec 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
Stole one last night. Do it again. MM in net. Here goes.
123Kid
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: PA
Joined: 07.03.2017

Dec 15 @ 10:34 AM ET
TIOPS reporting CBJ may have interest in Brassard. They proposed Dubinsky (w/ money retained) and/or Duclair to Pittsburgh. I wouldn't be to upset with that type of trade. Dubinsky does still show that he has it and pending the money retained he could be a solid 3rd line winger/pk player for us going forward. Plus it would be great to see if Duclair could pair well on one of the 3 lines. Don't see it happening though..
Barnaby36
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Former Orpik44
Joined: 02.22.2013

Dec 15 @ 10:38 AM ET
I've always liked Dubinsky as a 3rd/4th line C. He plays the game hard and is abrasive but I wouldn't want to lose Brassard just to get him. I'd want a deal with Dubinsky/Jenner for Brassard + tbh
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Dec 15 @ 11:16 AM ET
TIOPS reporting CBJ may have interest in Brassard. They proposed Dubinsky (w/ money retained) and/or Duclair to Pittsburgh. I wouldn't be to upset with that type of trade. Dubinsky does still show that he has it and pending the money retained he could be a solid 3rd line winger/pk player for us going forward. Plus it would be great to see if Duclair could pair well on one of the 3 lines. Don't see it happening though..
- 123Kid


There was a time that I wanted Dubinsky here but that was before the constant cheap shots on Sid. Eff him.

If Rutherford is making any deals, he needs a RHD.....the sooner the better.
Thorny87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 10.17.2014

Dec 15 @ 11:33 AM ET
Fück Dubinsky. I wouldn’t trade Murray’s glove hand for that POS.

Thanks for the win Casey. If tanger is shut down for more than a month our goose is cooked.

17 games in the next month. Then the week off. That’ll be rough without Letang.
DeflatedPucks
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 04.29.2016

Dec 15 @ 11:57 AM ET
They Wuz Kangz.

Should be an easy win but guins will find a way to (frank) it up.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 15 @ 11:57 AM ET
So... tank for the #1 pick with Letang out?
jchst22
Joined: 01.24.2013

Dec 15 @ 12:09 PM ET
Ok but who do we trade the #1 pick for?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 15 @ 12:10 PM ET
Ok but who do we trade the #1 pick for?
- jchst22



Reeves, because #Grit
cranktheradio
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Greensburg, PA
Joined: 07.02.2011

Dec 15 @ 1:16 PM ET
If he's out you gotta go for parayko hard.
stackthepads
Joined: 05.13.2013

Dec 15 @ 1:19 PM ET
Just like 2017 the Pens will find ways to win with Letang out of the lineup. And RW fill find charts telling us they aren’t really winning.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 15 @ 1:22 PM ET
Just like 2017 the Pens will find ways to win with Letang out of the lineup. And RW fill find charts telling us they aren’t really winning.
- stackthepads



I don't know if I can handle another run like 2017. Bleeding shots and scoring chances left and right was so damn stressful to watch.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 15 @ 1:24 PM ET
TIOPS reporting CBJ may have interest in Brassard. They proposed Dubinsky (w/ money retained) and/or Duclair to Pittsburgh. I wouldn't be to upset with that type of trade. Dubinsky does still show that he has it and pending the money retained he could be a solid 3rd line winger/pk player for us going forward. Plus it would be great to see if Duclair could pair well on one of the 3 lines. Don't see it happening though..
- 123Kid

Well good thing its TIOPS saying that because Dubinsky is about three maybe four years out of being an actual good hockey player and that trade would be a mistake and a half.
coohill
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Louisville, CO
Joined: 03.15.2007

Dec 15 @ 1:34 PM ET
Likely in the minority but I miss the dad joke headlines.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 15 @ 2:18 PM ET
TIOPS reporting CBJ may have interest in Brassard. They proposed Dubinsky (w/ money retained) and/or Duclair to Pittsburgh. I wouldn't be to upset with that type of trade. Dubinsky does still show that he has it and pending the money retained he could be a solid 3rd line winger/pk player for us going forward. Plus it would be great to see if Duclair could pair well on one of the 3 lines. Don't see it happening though..
- 123Kid


TIOPS has literally said none of this. They stated CBJ has approached the Pens about a forward.

EDIT: The did say CBJ may have approached them about a forward swap, not specifically Brass and NSH, COL, CBJ and WPG have been monitoring the Brass situation.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Dec 15 @ 2:22 PM ET
Didn't we win the cup the year before last with out letang? And I believe there was something called a Ron Hainsy playing in his place.

Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 15 @ 2:25 PM ET
Awesome. The we don't need Letang people are back...
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 15 @ 2:26 PM ET
Awesome. The we don't need Letang people are back...
- Victoro311


Did they ever really leave?
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 15 @ 2:38 PM ET
So... how stupidly overpriced would Duncan Keith be, and do we even 'want' him? Hes a lot more of a 2nd pairing Dman, and gotta be on the decline, but (frank) it... win now.

And yes, this would involve losing Maatta... I won't even humor the JJ on this.
pensfan024
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: somewhere in, VA
Joined: 09.25.2012

Dec 15 @ 2:45 PM ET
Awesome. The we don't need Letang people are back...
- Victoro311


Im trying to be positive chump d!ck.

Would you rather I cry and say our season is over.

If our offense can get going like it was the first 10 games of the season I think we could our score the majority of the teams in the league.
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 15 @ 2:53 PM ET
So... how stupidly overpriced would Duncan Keith be, and do we even 'want' him? Hes a lot more of a 2nd pairing Dman, and gotta be on the decline, but (frank) it... win now.

And yes, this would involve losing Maatta... I won't even humor the JJ on this.

- Guile


I’d 100% entertain a JJ for Keith swap if it were financially feasible. I’d way rather br stuck with Keith than JJ.
Victoro311
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: San Diego, CA
Joined: 06.17.2014

Dec 15 @ 3:29 PM ET
Im trying to be positive chump d!ck.

Would you rather I cry and say our season is over.

If our offense can get going like it was the first 10 games of the season I think we could our score the majority of the teams in the league.

- pensfan024

He. Chump Richard. That's a new one.
Guile
Joined: 03.04.2014

Dec 15 @ 3:33 PM ET
I’d 100% entertain a JJ for Keith swap if it were financially feasible. I’d way rather br stuck with Keith than JJ.
- Rinosaur



Oh, don't get me wrong, I would nut if JR could pull that off. JJ + 1st round pick, and... an average prospect of ours, for Keith? Yep, I'd do that right away.



But, here is where I completely overthink this...

Assuming the Hawks are going to start selling off whatever they can to retool/rebuild, Keith is likely one of their first choices to go Age, contract, term... that is not what you keep during a rebuild. JJ, while (frank)ing terrible, is 2 mil less a year, so its an easier contract for them to just deal with during the rebuild from a cap/payroll level.

Now, the huge variable is figuring out what Keith is worth... he is still a solid mid pairing Dman (and when I pulled the charts, hes actually doing better this year in nearly all aspects than his last 2 years... odd), but decline is a massive factor at his age and the term. Do the Hawks and others view his deal as 1-2 years then hes a nonfactor, if so... does that cripple his value to JJ level? I damn well hope so, because then its JJ + a mid pick
Rinosaur
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Somewhere, NJ
Joined: 01.21.2016

Dec 15 @ 3:34 PM ET
Oh, don't get me wrong, I would nut if JR could pull that off. JJ + 1st round pick, and... an average prospect of ours, for Keith? Yep, I'd do that right away.


Assuming the Hawks are going to start selling off whatever they can to retool/rebuild, Keith is likely one of their first choices to go. JJ, while (frank)ing terrible, is 2 mil less a year, so its an easier contract for them to just deal with during the rebuild.

Now, the huge variable is figuring out what Keith is worth... he is still a solid mid pairing Dman (and when I pulled the charts, hes actually doing better this year in nearly all aspects than his last 2 years... odd), but decline is a massive factor at his age and the term. Do the Hawks and others view his deal as 1-2 years then hes a nonfactor, if so... does that cripple his value to JJ level? I damn well hope so, because then its JJ + a mid pick

- Guile


Oh, no no. I wouldn’t add to get Keith. JJ straight up. It’s not a good enough trade for CHI, but I’m not selling futures for that contract.
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