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neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
Did Skinner get traded yet? What about Muzzin? Any other E5 roomers?
- Fonz19

I heard they were going to start handing out bans for poor spelling and grammar.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
I know Babcock loves him....and also, I don't expect him to go anywhere either. It's not like the leafs have any better options.
- Cooshie



Nor would he be the first one I'd look to replace.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:23 PM ET
true. there might still be time to trick benning into trading tanev for nylander and 2 1sts.

lolz.

- Tumbleweed

Bad Tumbleweed! You go lay down.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:34 PM ET
Well, he was on the ice for 70 ES goals against last year, and 22 so far this year.... so even if you assume he's responsible for every goal he's on the ice for, which is obviously silly, that still doesn't compute.

Perhaps your perception is off?

- prock


What about none ES goals...they count too.
Cooshie
Joined: 01.09.2013

Dec 6 @ 3:36 PM ET
Nor would he be the first one I'd look to replace.
- prock


LOL - no where did I see he was the worst option for the leafs. I just think he is pretty lousy in his own end. He does make up by being great the other way.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Dec 6 @ 4:15 PM ET
Ek anything else today on the flyers???
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 6 @ 4:26 PM ET
Gards almost brings as much as Paryko, youd have to be on crack to give up Nylander and Gards

Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 6 @ 4:28 PM ET
So Dubas signs Nylander.
Then tells him he is not being traded.
Nylander then tells the media that Dubas assured me that I am not getting traded.

That should be enough for everyone to dismiss a Nylander for Parayko package as non-sensical. Instead, it was selected as the best deal.

Trading Nylander would just destroy Dubas' bargaining position with Matthews and Marner. They would surely demand NMCs/NTCs as well as massively front-loaded contracts so that Dubas doesn't pull a fast one and trade them away as well.

Now if you said Kapanen + Liljegren, well at least that's a plausible idea.

- Fonz19


Lol, they can demand all they want but they DONT (frank)ING QUALIFY for NMC/NTC
Matthews_Auston
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 04.30.2016

Dec 6 @ 4:29 PM ET
The winner is....

wingdings:
Proposing a William Nylander + Jake Gardiner, for Colton Parayko + Jordan Kyrou trade. Willie will be an 80-90 point guy, so you wanna give this some thought. We have cap room this season and would be willing to retain 25% of Nye's salary this season, plus we'll take Jay Bouwmeester (UFA end of season) for the remainder of this season to make your cap situation work. We would also send Carl Grundstrom and Calle Rosen back your way to sweeten the deal.
Awesome job and well thought out...plus HUGE points for creativity! I love the concept of adding in Bouwmeester and even though Nylander signed after this proposal he signed a deal that will keep him in trade rumors..this is my pick..


What say you???

I say you're a joke.
bruinzfan77
Boston Bruins
Location: MB
Joined: 07.19.2012

Dec 6 @ 4:48 PM ET
I still like my proposal because McAvoy has had injuries early on. Straight up would be nice too.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 6 @ 4:52 PM ET
What about none ES goals...they count too.
- Cooshie



Okay? 3 pk goals against last year and 0 this year. I dont normally include them because it's not fair to penalize players with lots of pk goals against.
leafsfann
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Joined: 05.11.2014

Dec 6 @ 5:59 PM ET
Show me one season in his career when he was anything remotely resembling "elite".
- Cooshie


He's elite at throwing the puck away to the opposition. He makes a lot of brilliant plays in the opposition's end though.
Xizord
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I am Eklund, QC
Joined: 01.03.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:11 PM ET
The winner is....

wingdings:
Proposing a William Nylander + Jake Gardiner, for Colton Parayko + Jordan Kyrou trade. Willie will be an 80-90 point guy, so you wanna give this some thought. We have cap room this season and would be willing to retain 25% of Nye's salary this season, plus we'll take Jay Bouwmeester (UFA end of season) for the remainder of this season to make your cap situation work. We would also send Carl Grundstrom and Calle Rosen back your way to sweeten the deal.
Awesome job and well thought out...plus HUGE points for creativity! I love the concept of adding in Bouwmeester and even though Nylander signed after this proposal he signed a deal that will keep him in trade rumors..this is my pick..


What say you???

I say you're a joke.

- Matthews_Auston


Woa, lots of anger... Kyrou is a hell of a prospect, Gardiner was a mess in the playoff, not sure that would be a bad trade for the leafs... Plus do you really want to go to war in the playoff with the pretty boy that held off for probably 500k a year ?

The smart thing to do for the leaf would be trading Nylander for a 2nd D
Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.08.2015

Dec 6 @ 7:05 PM ET
I hope you were talking about an overpayment in St. Louis end. Nylander straight up can not get you too pair RHD. A 60 point winger is not worth top pair RHD simple as that. Stop with the bs he can be 85 point guy.
Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.08.2015

Dec 6 @ 7:09 PM ET
Gards almost brings as much as Paryko, youd have to be on crack to give up Nylander and Gards
- Garnie



This is a joke right. Gard is terrible at defense. Good puck mover but he needs to be bottom pair pp qb to succeed. Paryko can play in all situations.
Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.08.2015

Dec 6 @ 7:10 PM ET
Woa, lots of anger... Kyrou is a hell of a prospect, Gardiner was a mess in the playoff, not sure that would be a bad trade for the leafs... Plus do you really want to go to war in the playoff with the pretty boy that held off for probably 500k a year ?

The smart thing to do for the leaf would be trading Nylander for a 2nd D

- Xizord


You can’t reason with leaf fans. They are all mini Garth with player valuing.
Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.08.2015

Dec 6 @ 7:14 PM ET
Nylander and Gardiner for Parayko and Kyrou is a big overpay.

If anything like that would happen, it would be Kapanen, not Nylander.

- prock


No it is not an overpayment at all. It is a fair trade. Kyrou is an elite prospect and will be rookie minimum and can play in top six once Marceau is traded/ retires. Which is huge bonus and Paryko gives you huge boast to defense for foreseeable future.
PavohnDatsvares
Ottawa Senators
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 05.03.2016

Dec 6 @ 7:25 PM ET
Sens fan weighing in here,

Stone to Philly? I wouldn't sell him for anything less than Patrick... ok. Maybe Konecny. Can't see Philly parting with either of those guys. I'm not sure what to make of this. But I'm pretty fricking sick of the Sens being stuck in a situation of, 'Well he's just gonna walk in the summer for nothing, so you might as well at least get the 3rd round pick teams are offering."
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

Dec 6 @ 7:39 PM ET
This is a joke right. Gard is terrible at defense. Good puck mover but he needs to be bottom pair pp qb to succeed. Paryko can play in all situations.
- Bigdog1991


Zaitsev catches a lot of heat, but I trust him in Toronto's own end more than Gardiner. Guy spends like 90% of his life on the PK or defensive zone starts, and he's far more reliable defensively than almost anyone on the blueline not named rielly.

His game isn't flashy, but he fits a serious area of need in Toronto.
Fonz19
Joined: 12.05.2018

Dec 6 @ 9:27 PM ET
Kessel has another 4 points tonight. He just went from E4 to E5.
prock
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Bobby Ryan + 1st rounder for Clarkson, ON
Joined: 08.30.2007

Dec 6 @ 9:56 PM ET
This is a joke right. Gard is terrible at defense. Good puck mover but he needs to be bottom pair pp qb to succeed. Paryko can play in all situations.
- Bigdog1991


Yes but not really at the level we need a dman to in order to improve the team.

He looked like he had a hell of a lot of promise in his rookie season. A whole lot of meh since then.
ziffles
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.19.2010

Dec 6 @ 9:58 PM ET
Thank god dubas is in charge and ek doesnt have shannys job.
Bigdog1991
St Louis Blues
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 07.08.2015

Dec 7 @ 7:48 AM ET
Yes but not really at the level we need a dman to in order to improve the team.

He looked like he had a hell of a lot of promise in his rookie season. A whole lot of meh since then.

- prock


Look at your defense now. He will be easily the second best dman on team. And not even close and arguably better then Riley in certain situations. And most importantly he is RHD which is very hard to find. You guys should know. Stop over valuing your own players. And under valuing others. Gard is offensive dman who is not producing offense on one of the best offensive teams in league. How do u think he will do on average team? Same goes with paryko he was good as a rookie because he played on good team and his team now is terrible. On leafs he will be a stud.
RobShouts
St Louis Blues
Location: Orlando, FL
Joined: 07.13.2013

Dec 7 @ 7:54 AM ET
Tarasenko just put his house up for sale. Let the speculation begin.
Garnie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 11.30.2009

Dec 7 @ 8:15 AM ET
This is a joke right. Gard is terrible at defense. Good puck mover but he needs to be bottom pair pp qb to succeed. Paryko can play in all situations.
- Bigdog1991

A joke would be to give up their 2nd best D and a top line winger for Paryko. Id give up Nylander and something or Gards and something but not both.
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