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wcorvette
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Dec 6 @ 2:56 PM ET
Is all of this fact or speculation?
- SuperSchennBros



like all posts on this site, FACTS
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:57 PM ET
I am not suggesting the trade, in fact I said I would not. What I suggested is the kind of return I believe the Leafs would give for Simmer. I want Simmer traded out west
- wcorvette

that was a leafs fan level trade suggestion
ajw12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.27.2017

Dec 6 @ 2:58 PM ET
like all posts on this site, FACTS
- wcorvette


well played, well played...
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 2:59 PM ET
Can you elaborate? Which part is “craziest”?
- NC Flyers Fan


What he said
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Dec 6 @ 2:59 PM ET
That's how I see it. I know there are guys who have to be re-signed in the next couple years, but other than Provy, TK and Patrick, I doubt any are looking at new deals with cap hits north of 2.5 million. When you factor in AMac, Gudas, Raffl, Lehtera, Weise and Weal all off the books no later than 2020, that alone gives them 19 million to work with. They are in excellent shape when it comes to the cap and Hextall deserves full credit for it.
- BiggE


and the cap is going up to 83 million next year from what Bettman said. Crazy
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:01 PM ET
Is all of this fact or speculation?
- SuperSchennBros

Obviously it’s not fact but this is the way it usually goes when it comes to older FAs looking to get their last big paycheck.
dragonoffrost
Season Ticket Holder
Location: The East Coast Dump, NJ
Joined: 10.12.2015

Dec 6 @ 3:01 PM ET
and the cap is going up to 83 million next year from what Bettman said. Crazy
- nastyflyergirl


The Flyers having so much cap space is CRAZY talk we need a GM who's going to use it... BRING BACK CLARKIE!
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Dec 6 @ 3:02 PM ET
I like Kapanen but I don't think that is full value for Simmonds but I think it full value for the Leafs, since they know they wont resign Simmonds.
- wcorvette

You think you can trade Simmonds for what then? Kapanen will hit 20 goals easy in his second year in the NHL. Might be a 30 goal scorer and is what? 22?
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:03 PM ET
and the cap is going up to 83 million next year from what Bettman said. Crazy
- nastyflyergirl

Yup. Now factor in the added revenue from another expansion team coming in 21-22. Unless there is a major recession (which is always possible) the cap could easily be at 95 million or more by 23-24.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:03 PM ET
Obviously it’s not fact but this is the way it usually goes when it comes to older FAs looking to get their last big paycheck.
- BiggE


Again, not an attack but I’m looking for fact. I’m tired of reading the same old “We need to trade Simmonds if he wants 7 million for 7 years”. For me, the question always comes back to, where is this coming from??
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:07 PM ET
Again, not an attack but I’m looking for fact. I’m tired of reading the same old “We need to trade Simmonds if he wants 7 million for 7 years”. For me, the question always comes back to, where is this coming from??
- SuperSchennBros

It’s coming from comparisons to what similar FAs like Simmonds have signed for in relation to what the cap limit was when they signed. We’re discussing a contract that has yet to be signed, it’s all speculation. However there is a difference between making wild guesses and forming an educated opinion based on previous deals.

Also no worries, I don’t see this as an attack in any way shape or form. It’s just a discussion
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 3:07 PM ET
Yup. Now factor in the added revenue from another expansion team coming in 21-22. Unless there is a major recession (which is always possible) the cap could easily be at 95 million or more by 23-24.
- BiggE


Phoenix* is going to need some more dead contracts to reach the floor.







*yes, Phoenix, frank that Arizona crap
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:09 PM ET
Phoenix* is going to need some more dead contracts to reach the floor.







*yes, Phoenix, frank that Arizona crap

- Scoob


LOL, true! They should be trading for Carey Price sometime in 2026 or so.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 3:09 PM ET
Phoenix* is going to need some more dead contracts to reach the floor.







*yes, Phoenix, frank that Arizona crap

- Scoob


AMac likes warm weather....
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:10 PM ET
It’s coming from comparisons to what similar FAs like Simmonds have signed for in relation to what the cap limit was when they signed. We’re discussing a contract that has yet to be signed, it’s all speculation. However there is a difference between making wild guesses and forming an educated opinion based on previous deals.

Also no worries, I don’t see this as an attack in any way shape or form. It’s just a discussion

- BiggE

7 million is outrageous money. 7 years is outrageous term. We can all agree on this.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:12 PM ET
7 million is outrageous money. 7 years is outrageous term. We can all agree on this.
- SuperSchennBros


As much as I love Simmonds and I think he is the closest we will ever have to a classic "Flyers player" if they were to sign him for 7 years at 7 per everyone should be fired.
copelal
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Baltimore, MD
Joined: 03.12.2014

Dec 6 @ 3:13 PM ET
The Flyers power play comes in at 15.1 percent (11-for-73, 27th) with four shorthanded goals yielded.


Yikes - that's really scary... in 25 games, the PP is only a +7.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 6 @ 3:16 PM ET
2 primary things I am looking for out of tonight..

1. Does Stolarz put in another solid performance.
2. Does the PK keep showing improvement.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Dec 6 @ 3:17 PM ET
Can you elaborate? Which part is “craziest”?
- NC Flyers Fan


The fact he thinks Farabee is anywhere in the realm of Frost, who was an OHL MVP finalist and 2nd in OHL scoring at 18, not as an overager.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Dec 6 @ 3:19 PM ET

“Farabee is fourth on his team, Boston University, in points. He has seven in 13 games, and is the highest scoring freshman on the team.”

From this article:
https://doublegsports.com...adline-preliminary-teams/

3G 4A so far for Farabee

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 3:19 PM ET
As much as I love Simmonds and I think he is the closest we will ever have to a classic "Flyers player" if they were to sign him for 7 years at 7 per everyone should be fired.
- opeth_pa


If I am the Flyers I am doing no more than 3 years, pushing for a 2 year contract with a no compromise no movement or trade clause. If I am Simmonds No way I am signing for less than 5 years and I want a NMC.

Simmonds deserves to get the best deal he can, but unfortunately the Flyers can not provide that in their situation.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
7 million is outrageous money. 7 years is outrageous term. We can all agree on this.
- SuperSchennBros

I agree the term is outrageous, but the money? Not really. JVR, who doesn’t bring the intangibles that Simmonds brings, just got 7 million per and that was well before anyone knew the cap was increasing to 83 million next season. Sure Simmonds is 1.5 years older (at the time he become FA) but don’t kid yourself; there will be multiple GMs willing to give Simmonds the same deal we gave JVR.
ggunky
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: I like cold beverages, NJ
Joined: 04.09.2008

Dec 6 @ 3:20 PM ET
What he said
- Glak18



I sure hope that the Flyers hold on to both.

There is 0 reason to trade them at this time, well unless the Canucks want to trade Elias Pettersson or the Oilers want to trade McD.

(I am not saying straight up. I am not comparing the Flyers prospects to the plays named above. I am speaking about a blockbuster trade that would require alot more from the Flyers but include said players)
Tfaehner
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.25.2012

Dec 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
Yup. Now factor in the added revenue from another expansion team coming in 21-22. Unless there is a major recession (which is always possible) the cap could easily be at 95 million or more by 23-24.
- BiggE


I would hope for much higher as expansion franchise should bump it about 6 million than assume 2 or 3 million per year plus a new TV contract for 2022-2023 which should increase cap greatly. Not to the NBA extent of 35 million or whatever that was. But a lot.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 3:21 PM ET
“Farabee is fourth on his team, Boston University, in points. He has seven in 13 games, and is the highest scoring freshman on the team.”

From this article:
https://doublegsports.com...adline-preliminary-teams/

3G 4A so far for Farabee

- NC Flyers Fan


NCAA is much different than CHL...Farabee is playing against grown men already. Plus Farabee is more of a shooter, where as Frost is a playmaker. Personally for me I give the slight edge to the scorer.
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