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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:50 PM ET
See how much pressure the Flyers get when they get the puck inside the high slot area, instead of constantly shooting from the point?
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 7:51 PM ET
Not a good period overall. Columbus carried the play far to much.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 7:51 PM ET
That is fair. The hypothetical idea being that he could potentially be dealt via similar sign and trade to another team since Columbus would be actively looking to recoup value on a bolting asset and would involve him in the process. Would it be plausible to sign him without moving Jake in a separate deal?
- stayinthefnnet

Love Panarin but to give up that much I don't think he's the guy that's going to magically solve our issues.

I would give that up for a young, absolute stud D man or Selke caliber center.
Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Dec 6 @ 7:51 PM ET
Started off strong and had a good final shift. In between not so much except for killing off both penalties. Need more than a handful of shots.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 6 @ 7:53 PM ET
Unless it was for PR...Panarin pretty much said who he will play for or sign with. If your not on an ocean then that means that team isn't it.
- Glak18

Oh wow I knew he was gonna be peculiar but I didn’t know he had already declared it coast or bust.
Landsbergfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gävle, Sweden
Joined: 07.15.2014

Dec 6 @ 7:53 PM ET
Is Torts wearing a hoodie hahha? Never seen a coach not in jacket + tie minus winter classics
- arichardson22

Punk 👨🏿‍🎤
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:55 PM ET
Don’t hold me to this I’m guessing, but Depending on what our RFAs make (TK, Provy, Sanheim) and what Laughton signs for, if we moved Simmonds and the cap goes up the reported amount, I think we could afford both Jake and Panarin.
- arichardson22


After all RFAs, I would guess around 18-20 million + (cap increase).

If Stolarz gets the backup...that means the Flyers have roughly 21-23 million to fill 3-4 forward spots, 1 D and 1 G.

Yes, they will have no problem adding Panarin depending on how much they spend on a Starter.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 6 @ 7:55 PM ET
Love Panarin but to give up that much I don't think he's the guy that's going to magically solve our issues.

I would give that up for a young, absolute stud D man or Selke caliber center.

- hereticpride

Definitely isn’t cheap. I do think highly of Panarin, I just didn’t know how much people were slowly souring on Jake overall to where they’d be willing to pony up for the margin in upgrade
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 6 @ 7:56 PM ET
After all RFAs, I would guess around 18-20 million + (cap increase).

If Stolarz gets the backup...that means the Flyers have roughly 21-23 million to fill 3-4 forward spots, 1 D and 1 G.

Yes, they will have no problem adding Panarin depending on how much they spend on a Starter.

- Glak18


Having top six guys still on ELCs in Patrick and Tk does wonders
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:56 PM ET
Oh wow I knew he was gonna be peculiar but I didn’t know he had already declared it coast or bust.
- stayinthefnnet


Pretty sure 3 main teams were listed...NYR, FLA and a West Coast team (LA?)
cdearth23
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA
Joined: 08.06.2015

Dec 6 @ 7:57 PM ET
GD Jake trying to do toi much against his former team. Overextended a shift and his turnover led to scoring chance. Get the f off the ice. You're no Ovi!!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:57 PM ET
Having top six guys still on ELCs in Patrick and Tk does wonders
- stayinthefnnet


TK is a RFA this year, Patrick, Lindblom and Hagg are the only RFAs next year that will probably be getting a decent raise.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:59 PM ET
A little flat for too many stretches that period....but 5 days off....need to come out and take control of the 2nd period.
Bad first goal, but I thought Stollie made some good saves after that.... no more of those tonight.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:03 PM ET
Definitely isn’t cheap. I do think highly of Panarin, I just didn’t know how much people were slowly souring on Jake overall to where they’d be willing to pony up for the margin in upgrade
- stayinthefnnet

I really think they should shop Jake for a center and move Patrick down to 3C. I think they're expecting a little too much of him right now.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 6 @ 8:03 PM ET
TK is a RFA this year, Patrick, Lindblom and Hagg are the only RFAs next year that will probably be getting a decent raise.
- Glak18

How you win in today’s nhl.

Or you can ship your only offensive prospect for nothing. That works too
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 6 @ 8:05 PM ET
I really think they should shop Jake for a center and move Patrick down to 3C. I think they're expecting a little too much of him right now.
- hereticpride

Jake isn’t a perfect player but his amount of tangible point production isn’t anything to scoff at. I don’t know what a good realistic one for one would be. You don’t want to go too old obviously, but you don’t want to permanently block Patrick from that two hole for the next four plus years either,
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:07 PM ET
Jake isn’t a perfect player but his amount of tangible point production isn’t anything to scoff at. I don’t know what a good realistic one for one would be. You don’t want to go too old obviously, but you don’t want to permanently block Patrick from that two hole for the next four plus years either,
- stayinthefnnet

Agreed. Someone who could transition over to wing once Patrick takes the next step would definitely be something I'd be considering.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 8:08 PM ET
How you win in today’s nhl.

Or you can ship your only offensive prospect for nothing. That works too

- stayinthefnnet


Most teams take that next step when they have overperforming ELC working for them. Next couple years Flyers will be signing some of them to their first standard contracts, hopefully bridges, but that means Frost, Farabee, Hart, Sandstrom, Myers and Morin will all still be on cheap contracts 3-5 years from now.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 8:13 PM ET
Anderson is killing the Flyers right now, they need to slow him down.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:13 PM ET
Laughton was playing really well all game bit good that was a dumb penalty.
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Dec 6 @ 8:13 PM ET
Just got home and I feel lied to. The game is not on the NHL network so I'm relegated to watching it in SD on Center Ice.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Dec 6 @ 8:13 PM ET
Most teams take that next step when they have overperforming ELC working for them. Next couple years Flyers will be signing some of them to their first standard contracts, hopefully bridges, but that means Frost, Farabee, Hart, Sandstrom, Myers and Morin will all still be on cheap contracts 3-5 years from now.
- Glak18


Yeah exactly. Have your one or two studs being paid face value, supplemented by overperforming elcs. It’s hard to do it any other way. They’re well set up. Fortunately from my perspective giroux should slowly start to wane. That Patrick lotto ball certainly threw a very large positive wrench into the grand scheme of things. (And yes I’m not so oblivious to actually bemoan another team having lotto luck haha)
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 8:16 PM ET
Yeah exactly. Have your one or two studs being paid face value, supplemented by overperforming elcs. It’s hard to do it any other way. They’re well set up. Fortunately from my perspective giroux should slowly start to wane. That Patrick lotto ball certainly threw a very large positive wrench into the grand scheme of things. (And yes I’m not so oblivious to actually bemoan another team having lotto luck haha)
- stayinthefnnet


If the Penguins win Hughes...I will punch you square in the face.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 8:16 PM ET
Goddamn Voracek with the turnovers
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 8:17 PM ET
Goddamn Voracek with the turnovers
- hereticpride


Only once every 4 games....
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