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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:04 PM ET
Well I remember Schenn in his last Flyer year being the best player on the team, due to various reasons (Giroux injured etc.). I agree on Blues point. The fact is that Schenn is not the player who makes others better, but he is a great complimentary player. I am sure that with him in team and below second line

JVR - Schenn - Voracek

the following things would be almost utmost certain:

- we would be in playoff position
- there would be less empty seats
- and Ron would be still GM

- Keith25


There are a lot of things wrong with the current team that Schenn doesn't fix.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:05 PM ET
Farabee's skillset reminds me a lot of TK at that age. Kid may make the team in a year or two.
- BenderRodriguez


I look at Farabee as Eberle but with much better snipes. People may not get crazy excited about Eberle, but he was a hell of a player for Canada when he was 17-19 years old.
easY
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 11.20.2018

Dec 6 @ 6:14 PM ET
So you think 70 points on 1 team automatically means he would of had 70 points on the Flyers?

How's he doing this year when not riding on Schwartz?

- Glak18


He got the same opportunity with top line players as Coturier did. He wouldn't have gotten that here playing on the second line. On the first maybe.
Keith25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DANBURY, CT
Joined: 02.07.2017

Dec 6 @ 6:14 PM ET
Having Frost and Farabee>>>>>having Schenn.
- ajw12


I remember after lottery in 2017 Hextall stating that wining 2nd pick speeds up the rebuild process, and that was the fact all of us were excited about, I am sure. The moment he made the Schenn trade, which he for sure won by a mile, he moved the contending time line by at least 2 years. At that second he had to know he will not live up as GM of Flyers to see it off (benefits).
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 6 @ 6:15 PM ET
Schenn is a nice player but stating that Hextall was out of his mind to trade him for 2 first round picks is wrong in my opinion. That's outstanding value for Schenn. What do we want? To be a little better and be a playoff team or to be a contender with a wide open window over a significant number of seasons to take multiple shots at it? If they had Schenn now, how much better would they be?
- MJL


Agreed.
It's the normal hyperbole you see here sometimes.
The fact that we got 2 first round picks for him regardless along with something else is pretty amazing all things being equal.

If we had Schenn would we be marginally better this season if everything else played out the same way..Yes but I dont think it would make us into a true contender this year let alone in a year or two.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:15 PM ET
He got the same opportunity with top line players as Coturier did. He wouldn't have gotten that here playing on the second line. On the first maybe.
- easY


He had opportunities playing with Giroux on multiple occasions, actually he had opportunities everywhere and was never able to be consistent.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:16 PM ET
I remember after lottery in 2017 Hextall stating that wining 2nd pick speeds up the rebuild process, and that was the fact all of us were excited about, I am sure. The moment he made the Schenn trade, which he for sure won by a mile, he moved the contending time line by at least 2 years. At that second he had to know he will not live up as GM of Flyers to see it off (benefits).
- Keith25


Do you have a source or link for that Hextall statement, or is that just from memory? I personally don't remember hearing that one bit.
funmaster18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: All I need are some tasty waves, a cool buzz and I'm fine.
Joined: 03.15.2009

Dec 6 @ 6:30 PM ET
Lindros was just a cheat code at the height of game.
- johndewar


Has that been a reason we haven’t landed many big name free agents? No clue if it is but something to wonder. I know Hextall was reluctant for a variety reasons within his overall plan, but something to think about.
Keith25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DANBURY, CT
Joined: 02.07.2017

Dec 6 @ 6:32 PM ET
He had opportunities playing with Giroux on multiple occasions, actually he had opportunities everywhere and was never able to be consistent.
- Glak18


he was the best player for us in 2016-2017 season. His first and only consistent season for us. Never will see what could follow this year on line in Voracek and JVR.
Keith25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DANBURY, CT
Joined: 02.07.2017

Dec 6 @ 6:35 PM ET
Do you have a source or link for that Hextall statement, or is that just from memory? I personally don't remember hearing that one bit.
- Glak18


Do not have source after those months, but there are 2 things I will remember from that day. Hextall being interviewed after lottery explaining what impact this will have on our rebuild and the strength of erection it gave me that day :-)
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:37 PM ET
he was the best player for us in 2016-2017 season. His first and only consistent season for us. Never will see what could follow this year on line in Voracek and JVR.
- Keith25


You think Schenn...Brayden Schenn was consistent in 16-17 for the Flyers?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:38 PM ET
Do not have source after those months, but there are 2 things I will remember from that day. Hextall being interviewed after lottery explaining what impact this will have on our rebuild and the strength of erection it gave me that day :-)
- Keith25


Well without a source I doubt it happened, I have never heard Hextall say at any time the process was sped up for any reason ever.
Keith25
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DANBURY, CT
Joined: 02.07.2017

Dec 6 @ 6:53 PM ET
Well without a source I doubt it happened, I have never heard Hextall say at any time the process was sped up for any reason ever.
- Glak18


Even without the source, you think that winning 2nd overall should not impact rebuild time line? It does, you just can't trade your second best center away at the same time. Regardless of return.

Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:54 PM ET
Bundy seems to be in a better mood...even Taryn seems to be in a jolly mood compared to the last couple/few weeks.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 6:57 PM ET
in memory of the 90's, lets hope the Flyers can play with a mean streak, not as much as this...

Lindros was a beast

https://www.youtube.com/w...0YgYTOg2mL-qrVz6p0NESS6KI

- wcorvette


Only watched the first 10 minutes but no wonder Scott Stevens went after Eric.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:58 PM ET
Why is Colby Cohen on my TV?
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 6:59 PM ET
Even without the source, you think that winning 2nd overall should not impact rebuild time line? It does, you just can't trade your second best center away at the same time. Regardless of return.
- Keith25


No question winning the 2nd overall pick made an impact for the team and especially down the road, but you said this...

I remember after lottery in 2017 Hextall stating that wining 2nd pick speeds up the rebuild process, and that was the fact all of us were excited about, I am sure. The moment he made the Schenn trade, which he for sure won by a mile, he moved the contending time line by at least 2 years. At that second he had to know he will not live up as GM of Flyers to see it off (benefits).
- Keith25


Hextall stating...
moment he [Hextall]...he [Hextall] moved the contending time line by at least 2 years

Again Hextall "stating" that is what I want to see. I think you are mixing up what non-rational media and fans made up in their heads to justify winning faster compared to what Hextall actually said.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:00 PM ET
Bundy seems to be in a better mood...even Taryn seems to be in a jolly mood compared to the last couple/few weeks.
- Glak18



They know they can wear what they want and eat Pizza after the game. Hextall was even controlling of the TV staff. That evil bastard.
opeth_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Implication
Joined: 12.13.2011

Dec 6 @ 7:02 PM ET
They know they can wear what they want and eat Pizza after the game. Hextall was even controlling of the TV staff. That evil bastard.
- MJL


That is some Team Negative Clown level snark.. Lol
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Dec 6 @ 7:04 PM ET
I want to punch Colby Cohen and elbow barkann with the wind-up
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Dec 6 @ 7:04 PM ET
Only watched the first 10 minutes but no wonder Scott Stevens went after Eric.
- bird_dog_pa


Still the most dominating player I have ever seen and probably will ever see.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Dec 6 @ 7:04 PM ET
That is some Team Negative Clown level snark.. Lol
- opeth_pa



Rumor has it that Hexy even rationed the TP. If your eating right no need to clean yourself with half a roll.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:06 PM ET
They know they can wear what they want and eat Pizza after the game. Hextall was even controlling of the TV staff. That evil bastard.
- MJL


THAT explains why Taryn was wearing the same type of sweater in different colors every broadcast...now she can branch out!!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:06 PM ET
Rumor has it that Hexy even rationed the TP. If your eating right no need to clean yourself with half a roll.
- bird_dog_pa


Had to be organic also.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Dec 6 @ 7:08 PM ET
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