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mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Dec 6 @ 10:47 PM ET
The Vegas players skate where they want right through the Hawk players and there's nothing the Hawks can do about it. The Hawks players have to try to skate around the Vegas players to get to the puck because they can't physically compete with the Vegas players. There's no fixing this team with this group of players.
- EbonyRaptor






TRUTH
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:48 PM ET
Vincent taking a dump and leaving the weapon on the counter.
Brainfart.

- philco28


I love the ending in the restaurant. Sam Jackson is one cool cat. Also, Travolta and Thurman's dinner-dance-date.
dpard
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: My preferred gender pronoun is "Corn Pop"
Joined: 04.18.2011

Dec 6 @ 10:48 PM ET
I'm not going to suspend my beliefs on what I find disgusting for any movie. I like the movie, a lot, just not that scene.
- I Am The Breadman

Thanks for that sanctimonious response.....be gone, stay gone
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Dec 6 @ 10:48 PM ET
all the GWG from the 3 cup runs.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJlGCcJd7tk

- mrpaulish


As much as I enjoy watching them, I don’t need to watch it. Got them eternally imprinted here....(finger pointed at the cranium).
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Dec 6 @ 10:49 PM ET
Thanks for that sanctimonious response.....be gone, stay gone
- dpard




To bad the Hawks dont have a Mr. Wolf that can save the day.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Dec 6 @ 10:49 PM ET
Hilarious
- TrueGrit


Thanks!
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Dec 6 @ 10:50 PM ET
As much as I enjoy watching them, I don’t need to watch it. Got them eternally imprinted here....(finger pointed at the cranium).
- Spec41971



WAS TRYING TO BRING SOME JOY TO THE THREAD MY PEOPLE.





I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:51 PM ET
Thanks for that sanctimonious response.....be gone, stay gone
- dpard


All I said was my own personal tastes, the same as you. I'm not above anybody. I don't get the hate? As you said, it is a movie, there's no need to flip.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 10:52 PM ET
CHICAGO, IL - JUNE 23: Chicago Blackhawks general manager Stan Bowman is interviewed during the 2017 NHL Draft at the United Center on June 23, 2017 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)
The Chicago Blackhawks problems are numerous this season. They have consistently played terrible in their own end in front of their goalies. They continue to allow numerous “Grade A” chances to their opponents each game. Their special teams have also been absolutely terrible all season. They have the third worst penalty kill at 73.5% and their power play is dead last at 12.5%. Their record now sits at 9-14-5. They are currently sixth in the Central Division ahead of only the St. Louis Blues. A week ago they were three points out of a wildcard spot, and now they are down seven points. Where did things go wrong for the storied franchise?

Blackhawks Problems Start With Stan Bowman
Stanley Cup Rewards
Blackhawks problems begin and end with the roster. While winning three Stanley Cups in six seasons General Manager Stan Bowman began giving out much deserved “Blackhawks for Life” contracts. These contracts all included non-movement clauses that hamper the franchise’s ability to make moves in later years. It’s a big part of doing business while chasing multiple Stanley Cups. The hope is that the team locks up their core players and rides them as long as they can and builds around them to be an elite team every year.

Successful franchises stay competitive every season by using long-term contracts for their core, selecting great draft picks, and then signing productive free agents when needed. A solid franchise will draft players that will learn what it takes to play in the NHL and then sign them to entry-level contracts that help keep the team under the salary cap every season. Good teams have a solid mix of players on entry-level contracts and veterans. This requires that a team choose wisely at the annual NHL draft and promote from within. Unfortunately for the Chicago Blackhawks Stan Bowman’s draft picks have been a major disappointment since he took over from Dale Tallon.



Listed below are the draft picks Stan Bowman made in the first or second round 2010-2017.

1st and 2nd Round Draft History 2010-2017
2010
Kevin Hayes RW (1st) – Unsigned by the Blackhawks Opted for New York Rangers 2014
Ludvig Rensfeldt LW (2nd) – Unsigned still playing in Sweden
Justin Holl D (2nd) – Played 66 games with the Indy Fuel (ECHL), 2 games with Rockford Ice Hogs (AHL). Signed as a free agent by the Toronto Maple Leafs in 2016.
2011
Mark McNeill C (1st) Rockford Ice Hogs 2011-17 Traded to Dallas 2017 for Johnny Oduya who is now gone
Phillip Danault LW (1st) Rockford Ice Hogs 2012-16 Traded to Montreal Canadiens for Tomas Fleischmann and Dale Weise 2016. Both of these “Cup rentals” are gone.
Adam Clendening D (2nd) Played for Chicago, Rockford, Vancouver, Pittsburgh, Edmonton, Rangers, Arizona, Rockford, and now with the Columbus Blue Jackets
Brandon Saad LW (2nd) Blackhawks 2011-15, traded to Columbus Blue Jackets in 2015, reacquired from Columbus in 2017 for Artemi Panarin
2012
Teuvo Teravainen LW (1st) Blackhawks 2013-16, traded to Carolina Hurricanes for 2nd round pick used to select Artur Kayumov in 2016
Dillon Fournier D (2nd) Played for the Rockford Ice Hogs and Indy Fuel 2014-17 Now retired from hockey
2013
Ryan Hartman RW (1st) Rockford Ice Hogs and Blackhawks 2013-18, traded to Nashville Predators for Victor Ejdsell and 2018 draft picks that became Nicolas Beaudin and Philipp Kurashev
Carl Dahlstrom D (2nd) Rockford Ice Hogs 2014-present, has played 11 games with the Blackhawks.
2014
Nick Schmaltz C (1st) Blackhawks 2016-18, traded to Arizona Coyotes on 11/25/18 for Dylan Strome and Brendan Perlini
#2 no pick
2015
#1 no pick
Graham Knott LW (2nd) Rockford Ice Hogs 2018-present
2016
Alex DeBrincat RW (2nd) Blackhawks 2017-present
Chad Krys D (2nd) Boston University 2016-present
Artur Kayumov RW/LW (2nd) KHL 2016-present
2017
Henri Jokiharju D (1st) Blackhawks rookie in 2018 – has played 25 games
Ian Mitchell D (2nd) University of Denver 2017-present
As you can see Stan Bowman’s 1st and 2nd round draft history in the 2010-2014 years leaves a lot to be desired. The players drafted during 2010-14 should be contributing to an NHL team at this point in their careers. It’s not to say that all of Bowman’s picks aren’t contributing in the NHL, it’s just that they’re not doing it in Chicago. Kevin Hayes is playing for the Rangers, Phillip Danault is playing in Montreal, Ryan Hartman is playing in Nashville, and the biggest loss of all Teuvo Teravainen is having a great career in Carolina.

All of these successful picks were traded by Bowman to other teams to make the Blackhawks better. In return for these players, Bowman has zero assets still on the roster. The only exception would be Dylan Strome and Brendan Perlini who Bowman recently acquired in the Nick Schmaltz trade. After trading Nick “our center of the future” Schmaltz, Bowman characterized these two players as “needing a fresh start” to flourish. That sounds eerily familiar to the description of the acquisition of Anthony Duclair last season. Bowman also said Duclair needed a “fresh start” then chose not to offer him a restricted free agent contract after the season. Only time will tell if Strome and Perlini turn out well for a team desperate for immediate success.

Bowman’s Draft Record
Sadly, the only 2010-2014 1st round pick to still be with the team is Brandon Saad and he had to be reacquired from Columbus. Other than Saad, there are several prospects that were drafted as a result of the Bowman trades. Whether these prospects ever turn out to be NHL calibre players is yet to be determined. The Blackhawk faithful would love another one or two Alex DeBrincat type players to develop as quickly as possible. Patience is wearing thin as the Blackhawks decline into irrelevance continues this season.

After firing coach Joel Quenneville the fingers are about to be pointing up at Bowman. His draft record is a major part of the franchise’s recent decline. His trades and off-season moves are also to blame for the Blackhawks struggles to compete night in and night out. Luckily for Bowman, he has his father in his corner to help cover while he tries to correct the team’s fortunes. If things do not improve soon, even the great Scotty Bowman will not be enough to save Bowman’s job.
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- mmurray892


Scotty was a HC/GM in Buffalo. Team won, but no rings and he was eventually canned. Big diff between coaching and talent evaluation. His son is CLUELESS at the latter, nooooooooooooo doubt.
Spec41971
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Rolling meadows, IL
Joined: 03.04.2017

Dec 6 @ 10:52 PM ET
CHICKENSH****T LAZY POINT COVERAGE...THIS TEAM PHUCK'N BLOWS
- philco28


So tell us how you really feel!
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:53 PM ET
To bad the Hawks dont have a Mr. Wolf that can save the day.
- mrpaulish


Hahahaha.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 10:53 PM ET
I love the ending in the restaurant. Sam Jackson is one cool cat. Also, Travolta and Thurman's dinner-dance-date.
- I Am The Breadman


Classic flick. Willis did his part too.
fattybeef
Joined: 05.04.2010

Dec 6 @ 10:53 PM ET
Fatty,

Good points. I agree the shooting percentage was unsustainable the first handful of games. But over 15 games under Q, it was 9.3% (20th in the league, and consistent with last season's league average). Over 14 games under JC, it has fallen to 7.7% (26th in the league). To my eye, under Q, the team was getting more of the greasy goals, and that likely accounts for the fall off. I do not believe that the 3 goals per game under Q should be unsustainable.

- gmurban


As a team for sure not just with a few guys scoring though
Chunk
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Why did I move back here again?, IL
Joined: 11.06.2015

Dec 6 @ 10:54 PM ET
So we have now seen this for what, 7 straight games. If I’m Stan, I’m on the phone with every team talking about pretty much anyone. You look for some kind of progression and effort. We have neither right now. There is no excuse at all for continuing to start games this poorly.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:55 PM ET
Classic flick. Willis did his part too.
- philco28


Reservoir Dogs is considered the greatest, one of the greatest independent films of all time.
Chief4Feathers
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Post-Tank-alyptic World
Joined: 12.23.2010

Dec 6 @ 10:55 PM ET
It's definitely a brain tattoo, but that's not a good thing.

Do you seriously have a Gus jersey????

- I Am The Breadman


I have three Gus jerseys: home red, away white, and winter classic.

That’s how I roll.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Dec 6 @ 10:56 PM ET
They need to get rowdy and go start a fight in a bar. Except they couldn't beat the poop out of their underwear.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:56 PM ET
I have three Gus jerseys: home red, away white, and winter classic.

That’s how I roll.

- Chief4Feathers


Hahaha, ok. Cool. I thought you were joking.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Dec 6 @ 10:57 PM ET
Reservoir Dogs is considered the greatest, one of the greatest independent films of all time.
- I Am The Breadman




To this day I can't hear "stuck in the middle with you" withour laughing my ass off.
kwolf68
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mt. Lebanon, PA
Joined: 12.18.2010

Dec 6 @ 10:57 PM ET
So we have now seen this for what, 7 straight games. If I’m Stan, I’m on the phone with every team talking about pretty much anyone. You look for some kind of progression and effort. We have neither right now. There is no excuse at all for continuing to start games this poorly.
- Chunk


If I am Stan I am calling Kinkos to inquire of any management openings. That boy needs to be gone. This dumpster fire is his, all the scapegoats going back to Tallon up to Q are gone, he owns it. He got daddys name, but that isnt' getting the Hawks anyway, but a top pick.
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 6 @ 10:59 PM ET
To this day I can't hear "stuck in the middle with you" withour laughing my ass off.
- 6628


Madsen was great at being creepy. That arm swinging while he mouthed the words.
6628
Joined: 08.24.2009

Dec 6 @ 11:00 PM ET
Madsen was great at being creepy. That arm swinging while he mouthed the words.
- I Am The Breadman



I will never ever shave with a straight razor again.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 11:01 PM ET
So tell us how you really feel!
- Spec41971


LOOOOOOOOOL....thought i did lol
I Am The Breadman
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Richton Park, IL
Joined: 09.16.2018

Dec 6 @ 11:01 PM ET
I will never ever shave with a straight razor again.
- 6628


Especially by the ear.
philco28
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Mississauga, ON
Joined: 12.06.2011

Dec 6 @ 11:01 PM ET
Reservoir Dogs is considered the greatest, one of the greatest independent films of all time.
- I Am The Breadman


Good flick for sure.
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